Who are we to decide how God should act?

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What made me write this post is some member's reaction on Soha meeting Ishwari as an answer to her prayers.
To me God is not a human being. He is that super power who knows in & out of each of his creation. Each of our thoughts are known to him. He is the only one who knows us more than we know ourselves. In that case, He is the only one who knows Ishwari to the core of her heart. And as WeRocktheworld has posted in one of her posts, like how Krishna forgave & blessed Naga for poisoning Yamuna after knowing the reason behind it, same way God knows what is the reason that drives the insecurity inside Ishwari and makes her behave so. The Bible says God hates the sin; not the sinners. So if we the so-called self-righteous people will not hesitate to help someone out of a deep pit, then how will God turn His face away when someone calls out for help, especially when He is the only one who knows the real reason why that person is there. I am not sure how many of you noticed Ishwari's prayer...It really touched me when she prayed that she never complained when her partner was snatched from her; instead she had prayed only for the strength to endure that pain...Yesterday when my son shared the news of passing away of one of his friends father, leaving behind his wife, 16-yr old son & 12-yr old twin daughters, my heart got burdened thinking about their future. The pain of loosing your partner and that too a loving partner like Ishwari had, is unfathomable...I was wondered to see those supporting Sona for what all she had to go through, never for one instance thought of that moment when Ishwari lost her partner forever and was ousted from the home they lived & had to spend one night with her 3daughters on the road covered by a small blanket. Those who forgot it, go & watch Episodes 2 & 3; maybe that will help you empathise with Ishwari. In Sona's case, she had atleast her family, Jotin & all to support. Whom did Ishwari have, except for her brother? Have anybody ever thought the mental trauma she had to go through to keep her 3 daughters safe from eagle eyes. In such a situation it was Dev who gave her all the physical & emotional support. And in the midst of all these, if she never complained to God for her state & only asked for strength, who are we to question the relation God has with her. Keeping aside all the ill doings she have done till now, I would like to ask how many of you believe that her relation with Sona was predestined. Those who have a doubt, recollect the accident scene. The moment Sona meets with an accident Ishwari starts feeling uneasy and have a premonition that something bad is happening, same like she felt on the day of Dev's accident. Even Asha didn't feel so. That shows how much connected she was with Sona, though she hasn't realised it till now. So, if God is working to restore that connection by using innocent kids like Soha & Golu, it's our duty to watch it out patiently. After all it is said, Man proposes; God disposes.

In Dev's case also I personally believe that Dev challenging God was the main reason of everything going out of hand which resulted in total turmoil. But, in that case also Dev's one single moment of bowing down in front of God was answered in the form of Soha. And He gave somebody like Golu to share his feelings, because He knew how Dev was at heart. And i feel it would be for Golu that Dev will now be going to bow his head infront of God, so that he acknowledges the power of God in His life.

In all these, the one who stopped praying midway as soon as she heard about her condition is Sona. She never ever had hope for a miracle and never even prayed for it. Not even her parents. The irony is that being a doctor herself, she didn't even think of the various medical options that was available. She always believed on what she was capable of. Have we ever thought what would be her condition now, if Dev had told her about the infertilty report before marriage. She would never have married Dev and have led a lonely life; She would never have a Soha in her life. Maybe that's why she forgot all her ego, hurt & all and came to show Soha to Dev; because antar hi antar she would be feeling it was because of him, she is a complete woman today.

A woman, especially a wife is capable of much more than what she thinks of herself. Only thing is that she has to believe that God has entrusted her with special powers & strengths to build the family. Being a person who had to go through somewhat similar situations (except the infertility part) as Sona (including the protective father part) and that too always having an insecure feeling that i was not the right person for my hubby, today while completing 18yrs of my married life, I can proudly say that, with the help of Almighty I have built my beautiful & loving family. There have been both small & shocking instances where many of you, especially the feminists & younger generation here would say that I was a fool/doormat to suffer all these at the cost of my self-respect. But, till now I haven't felt so. Instead I find myself privileged to be chosen by God to prove to Him that His belief on me was true. I am an engineer by profession and being a person who was taunted for not getting a job & had to suffer a lot mentally, many of my friends called me a fool when I decided to leave my job for my son when he entered his 9th grade. Not only for his studies, but to be with him during his teenage days. Even my hubby was against it till he saw its results with his own eyes. For me my son's welfare was much important than my individuality, self respect or whatever you term it as. And when God has blessed us abundantly now (which was not the case earlier) I believe more than money i have to give importance to my son's future. So ladies out there who maybe going through tough situations in their married life I would like to encourage you to develop a relation with God which will help you realize how strong you are; to think above yourself; to wear the other person's shoes and understand their point of view; to understand the core character of your partner (which is where Sona failed when she trusted Vicky's words. The surprising part is, being the person who knew how wicked Vicky was, more than anyone in the Dixit family knew about him and had eventually challenged him that she will never allow him to destroy Dev & his company, she still trusted Vicky more than Dev. 😭).

Disclaimer: I do not in any way support physically abusive husbands and advice their spouses to be patient & keep on suffering.

I am not at all justifying Ishwari's evil manipulations & crookedness, as shown in the serial. Infact i am not happy the way the makers have portrayed Ishwari, such that the unmarried girls out there watching the show would be scared to get married to boys with single mothers. For sure all single mothers, especially widowed mothers, will be insecure; but are not like Ishwari...With lots of patience, care, assurances and love from the your side you can change them and get blessed with a wonderful family life.

Also I am neither Team Dev or Team Sona. I am infact more in awe of Erica, both as an actor & as a down to earth person.

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minnie2308 thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Grace- This caught my eyes.
Disclaimer: I do not in any way support physically abusive husbands and advice their spouses to be patient & keep on suffering.

So is it only physical abuse that you find wrong or mental abuse too?
Just asking
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Posted: 8 years ago
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First of all welcome dear to the forum family... Grace?

I love your post.. coz am living a life.. privileged like you just narrated.. chosen for a special purpose... and that is my husband...
I love the way you said, how we don't feel doormat.. for going thru a lot...

Insecurity is there in all relations who are beyond a limit attached to anyone else... and it is more easily available in single mothers, widow... but also possessive people.. who never had friends... to describe their emotions and let go of their negative vibes hovering around them...

And i also felt Ishwari prayer, realisation all that so much like the first days...
its true.. they need help.. and that's sona's purpose..
What sona could not achieve.. Soha will.. that is God's sent angel...

I even made a post on a beautiful parallel.. how Ms Bose is the ultimate savior for the Dixits...

Thank you for this post.. as this show is strong in its core.. with a beautiful moral which is for everyone's learning...

Please keep writing more.. and join the analysis thread.. we need more of mature, wise and good heart people like you...to learn the virtue of God's Grace.. and move on... however difficult it is to hold..

Ur post is an answer to my prayer...
am reminded of how soha came reminding Ishwari as an answer to her prayer..
same way.. happy tears... thank u so much...

Love,
Sajini
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: minnie2308

Grace- This caught my eyes.

Disclaimer: I do not in any way support physically abusive husbands and advice their spouses to be patient & keep on suffering.

So is it only physical abuse that you find wrong or mental abuse too?
Just asking


Hi Minnie...it depends on how much you understand your partner. For me, all the abuses i had to face were because of his impulsive nature and sometimes to satisfy his mail ego. Otw, my hubby being a soft-hearted person and somebody who even forgives & cares for those who wish & do bad to him, why should he be so mean to me. To tell you a secret, if you ask my son, he may be saying the same about me...out of anger i sometimes use abusive words to him; even once that i myself couldn't pardon the words i had used...but later seeing me crying, he himself came and comforted me that he didn't feel bad because he understood that it was an impulsive usage from my side. That's how the retrospection starts.

Hope I answered your question.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes God does not hate the sinner but he does punish the sinner. He is the one who can differentiate between genuine pain and love and love entrenched with selfishness.
He is the only one who knows us inside out and he is the only one who knows the complete picture. Heard the saying - be careful what you wish for, you might actually get it. They say never fight with God for anything just ask him to take care of you.

So in my opinion God's instant fulfilment of Ishwari's wish was his way of laughing at the utterly selfish, lying and conniving mean woman- this is what you wanted now enjoy. This will lead to you realising your own true face, the ugliness of which will lead to your complete breakdown.

Or may be God will make her the road for unifying the two soul mates suffering due to her selfishness. In the end I will only say, He's a benevolent but just God and he ensures that no one escapes the universal law of karma. He ensures that his children become good because he knows only then they can be truly happy.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317


Hi Minnie...it depends on how much you understand your partner. For me, all the abuses i had to face were because of his impulsive nature and sometimes to satisfy his mail ego. Otw, my hubby being a soft-hearted person and somebody who even forgives & cares for those who wish & do bad to him, why should he be so mean to me. To tell you a secret, if you ask my son, he may be saying the same about me...out of anger i sometimes use abusive words to him; even once that i myself couldn't pardon the words i had used...but later seeing me crying, he himself came and comforted me that he didn't feel bad because he understood that it was an impulsive usage from my side. That's how the retrospection starts.

Hope I answered your question.

Hmm..
Thanks for attempting dear. However I would prefer a completely equal partnership where spouse respect each other with no one being made to suffer coz of male ego or female ego.

I am glad it worked for you.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sajinifaby

Ur post is an answer to my prayer...
am reminded of how soha came reminding Ishwari as an answer to her prayer..
same way.. happy tears... thank u so much...

Love,
Sajini


Sajini...I am really happy that I could be of some comfort to u...hope you have read my post in your thread named TESTIMONIALS...As posted there, Continue your prayers & wait positively for the miracle. The Almighty Father Whom I believe surely answers tearful prayers.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: minnie2308

Hmm..
Thanks for attempting dear. However I would prefer a completely equal partnership where spouse respect each other with no one being made to suffer coz of male ego or female ego.

I am glad it worked for you.


It's ok to have different perspectives. But to me, husband & wife have different roles in a marriage. And that's because I believe that marriage was instituted by God and He had a purpose in joining a man and woman as a family. Otw, if it was to be something of equal partnership then He could have joined two men or two women together. And as per the religious belief I follow, husband & wife are not to be divorced for any other reason other than infidelity. This is my point of view and those who don't agree with me, please refrain from commenting, as I do not want to have a debate on the same.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317


It's ok to have different perspectives. But to me, husband & wife have different roles in a marriage. And that's because I believe that marriage was instituted by God and He had a purpose in joining a man and woman as a family. Otw, if it was to be something of equal partnership then He could have joined two men or two women together. And as per the religious belief I follow, husband & wife are not to be divorced for any other reason other than infidelity. This is my point of view and those who don't agree with me, please refrain from commenting, as I do not want to have a debate on the same.


I am really sorry but it is against the rules of the forum to ask anyone having an opinion different from yours to refrain from posting. This is an open forum meant for discussion.

Please understand that no one here is obliged to follow or agree with your beliefs. Though it is his choice as to whether he wants to ignore them or discuss them respectfully. Same way you are also entitled to ignore a post if you want.

Accordingly If you didn't like my post feel free to ignore or reply - as you wish.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful n a thought provoking post!

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