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Anju.

@ALUJNA21

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Posted: 7 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: AV25
Completely agree with you Anju. If akshay has made a decision with freewill, then he has to go in that direction and cannot retract from his direction. How can he expect or think that vijaya won't feel bad when he rebuilds his relationship with nandini.. He has no ideal relationship with vijaya doesn't mean that he can leave her at any moment.If this was the case then why did he marry her and become great in the eyes of vijaya and her mother? What's vijaya's fault..👏👏👏👏 He is actually making her life uncertain again. And what about neeti? That kid was the main reason why he married vijaya. As neeti grows she might respect akshay for his greatness. But now if she comes to know about akshay-nandini truth will she be able to respect him.
Regarding nandini I really don't understand in what sense and how can she project herself as a woman with great ideals because what is she doing now doesn't make her look like a responsible woman. Both akshay and nandini are breaking vijaya's trust.

Hi Anju,I think Akshay is not a younger than Neeti and I think he knows what he's doing like he knows he needs to hide his extramarital affair from the world.
If he's so goody goody he just needs to go ahead tells it to Vijaya pack his bag and leave.
Anju this is a topic where some agree with extramarital affair and some few people are against so it is very difficult to explain, to discuss...
Like up to me I'm not going to support such behaviour, it is white or black but not grey...
Akshay is a character who feels like going back in his past and enjoying life like a youngster again so this is only an excuse.Up to me.

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Anju.

@ALUJNA21

IF-Stunnerz

+ 8

Posted: 7 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: Hamsni
i totally agree with both ANJU and AV25. Nobody forced akshay to marry vijaya. It was his own decision and he is not taking responsibility for his actions. He never bothered to search nandini in all these 8 years. He thought nandini might have married already and didnt want to interfere in her life. But he can do same injustice to vijaya. Why didnt he think that getting nandini in between his married life will cause destruction to vijaya and neeti. And how its possible that nandini and his love has same passion as was 8 years back. Its clearly seen in nandini's behaviour how she cares for irfan. While she doesnt allow akshay to go to his home early, she doesnt waste a single minute when she is required by irfan. Where is her dedication. Her interest is already divided. While she wants to hold on to akshay, she doesnt let go of irfan either. He is like a toy boy for her.nandini didnt give a thought about neeti who knows akshay as her dad. Akshay is the one to take most blame for this whole situation. If he wants nandini so bad, just explain and divorce vijaya, then go to nandini. What he will lose in this process will be his own doing then. Man up and decide what you want akshay. And dont promote to viewers that infedility can be a morally acceptable cause owing to some circumstances.

Thank you Dear.
This is one point why he never searched for Nandini in these 8 long years. His love stopped boiling like the lava for her it was dormant and suddenly it erupted on seeing her.
As I said it if a person is in for extramarital affair and think first love has more meaning than a marriage and responsibilities this person will be fine with it but if is the contrary the marriage and responsibilities will be considered first...If it ends with Akshay and Nandini this show will be remembered as a flop show.

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81kash

@81kash

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Posted: 7 years ago

#13

Apart from all this discussions, we are watching this serial. We all can have different POV and perceptions. Its a healthy discussion, I see the show at no.41... Hope it increases...Irfan is also one likeable character. Good to see him getting angry on Akshay because of Ratan. I felt Akshay reaction was little too subtle.

Happy Eid Mubarak to all of you!!!

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Maharaani

@Maharaani

Senior Member

Posted: 7 years ago

#14

This is a show where you can sympathize with every character...all are good people with some human imperfections , and are victim of circumstances. No one is evil or villain. All good humans with imperfections. All have their own story and emotional pain and all deserve happiness...that is what the show is about...Vijaya lost her love and now the man she is with cannot love her...that is her pain...Akshay to honor his good friend's fiancee sacrificed not only his love but someone who meant his life and whom he cannot forget...Nandini, an orphan and Akshay, her fist and last love, whom she cannot forget, whom she loved unconditionally and loves so much that cannot think about any other...her love left her for some duty he considered was to be done, but Akshya was guilty to Nandini here, because he considered his decisions on this relation can be taken by himself only without consulting the other who will be drastically impacted by this decision to marry dead friend's would be wife...because love is like a joint account, one cannot withdraw money without the other's signature..so Nandini suffered for no fault of her own...the pain almost finished her and she went to depression...

So here only the circumstance and fate is responsible...Akshya-Nandini have some faults, but they have lot of good qualities too... no one is above fault...my only objection is bashing only Akshya and Nandini for everything and expecting a lot from them while always siding with Vijaya and Neeti...might be sometimes Akshya's ways wrong but heart is above logic and they have suffered and sacrificed also a lot.

Akshya is expected to whole life make sacrifices after sacrifices for Vijaya and neeti...keep them happy at his own expense and never be happy himself... he was scorned because he let Nandini, his love, know the truth about his loveless marriage...but why should not he, does he have no duties towards Nandini who misunderstands him to be a dhokhebaaz, he did not tell publicly but Nandini has rights to information about things that matter to them...like if Akshya is happily married and a biological father to a kid, what looks like a happy family actually does not exist and it is a loveless marriage...Nandini is expected to love Irfan just because he likes her...is love some light switch, it happens spontaneously and just because you are one good fren does not mean one falls in love with you Mr Irfan...why did Nandini accepted Akshya back she is questioned, it is because since she knew that Akshya had some majboori and he did not cheat her on purpose and that he did not cheat her on purpose or had affairs with Vijaya and that his marriage is just name's sake and he still loves Nandini...in this shallow world good qualities like Forgiveness is diminishing but revenge is substandard and forgiveness is heavenly they say...she forgave her soul's love...forgave Akshay... as true love forgives and is unconditional...she now thinks about herself before others who came to Akshya's life without her knowledge and consent. It is not her fault. May be you do not believe in giving someone a second chance, but may be she does.

So take this as a complex story where characters are all puppets in hands of circumstances and fate...it is not like Vijaya is Villain or Akshya-Nandini are...when the show started creatives and Gaurav even Shefali said same thing, here no one is bad...all are good but imperfect and are dil ke hathon majboor ...victims of circumstances and intense emotions.

It is a complex love story in this sense, like just because Vijaya is formally and societal rule wise attached to Akshya , Nandini does not become villain or other woman...rather she is the most dearest and imp woman who is not on papers in Akshya's life..it is a different story in sense it does not judge people on conventional standards and not a duplicate to Biwi No 1 where the other woman is shown like some witch and mangalsutra power etc...here things are complex...will Akshya's duty win or love ...it is based on that...well Akshya has also duties towards both love and wife...Akshya has affections for Vijaya but cannot love her ...Vijaya is a nice accommodating person who expects Akshya's love.

So rather than bashing only the lovers and siding with Vijaya always, one should watch it in a non-biased mind. You can have your favs but don't bash the other couple...be in their shoes and understand they have their own view point towards life...for some convention is imp...for some love is all encompassing. Everywhere it is shown that convention wins , may be this time love does.

Anyway it is no use bashing show or creatives even because they have it all mapped out inside mind and they have episodes made as per their vision...this show is not same routine shows that are made for TRPs and they made it clear along with Shefali, they will show it as per their vision...if you do not like switch to some other show that are xerox copies of each other..and even if the show does not have very long run, they will finish/complete it by showing what they want to show and convey ...and it may not be a very popular or conventional view but still something rare and different so watch show with open mind without lot of judging and bashing and if it does not suit, one can always opt not to see it, but let other s enjoy who are liking it.

Edited by Maharaani - 7 years ago

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Karishma

@Mystique.Kishi

Senior Member

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#15

Akshay wanted to marry Vijaya. Yes, he was at fault. Everybody here is like " Nobody forced Akshay to marry Vijaya.". Well here is the kicker. WHO ASKED VIJAYA TO MARRY AKSHAY? She willingly married a man who was marrying her out of pity. Did Vijaya think AKshay was in love with her ? Nope. She knew Akshay was marrying her out of a misplaced sense of responsbility. She should have objected to marrying him. But she did not. Because unlike some people on this forum like to believe, Vijaya is not as strong as they think she is. She took advantage of the opportunity that a man was willing to support her. A really strong woman would have asked Akshay his intentions before marrying her. She should have asked Akshay whether he actually liked her or was marrying her out of pity. Did she do that? No.

Also who forced Akshay to marry Vijaya? THE SOCIETY. The people who would talk. Akshay loved his friend and wanted to shield his friend's love and his friend's child from society's harsh criticisms. So he offered to marry Vijaya. All the while he sacrificed his happiness and his own wishes for the sake of his friend. It was Vijaya who should have told Akshay that she will face society on her own. But she accepted Akshay's offer of support all the while ignoring the fact that she is marrying a man who does not love her. That she is condemning a man to a dull loveless life and taking adavatage of that man's conscience.

Two people made love and created a child. But the responsibility of that child has been dumped on a person who has had nothing to do with it. Yeh sahi hai. Bachcha koi aur paida karo aur uski zimmedari kisi aur pe thop do.

As far as Nandini is concerned, she has the right to fight for what is due to her. And what is due to her is Akshay's companionship. What is due to her is the love that she lost because one random lady decided to shag her own boyfriend out of wedlock and then proceeded to marry Nandini's boyfriend to give her child a father. Afterall, apna boyfriend nahi toh kisi aur ka hi sahi. Khudka boyfriend swarg sidhaar gaya toh kisi aur ke boyfriend se shaadi kar leti hu. Ek hi baat hai.

Akshay belonged to Nandini way before he belonged to Vijaya. To me, marriage is nothing but a piece of legal paper that proclaims two people bound to each other. What matters is the bond that exists between two hearts. And a piece of paper and useless rituals don't mean anything if there is no bond between two people. This is what most people in our country ignore. They will be stuck in a loveless marriage just because it is marriage. Instead of understanding the true meaning of marriage they are just concerned wit rituals. Saat phere toh shaadhi, no saat phere toh no shaadi.

A person's whole life is decided on the act of revolving seven times around a fire.

If you have revolved with a certain person around that fire, then that person is your soulmate. Even if she is a stranger. Even if you don't love her. Who cares about your heart? Jisse shaadi ki usi se pyaar karne parega. Zabardasti hi karo par patni se hi pyaar karo. Baaki tumhaara pyaar, tumhaari chaahat gayi tel lene.

Waah re society ke thekedaaro! Shaadi shaadi ka rat lagana band kardo. Shaadi ki hai, olympic me medal nahi jeeta hai. So they revolved around a fire while some random dude chanted vows. What is the big deal about that? It is society. The fault rests with society and its darned rules.

So according to society , cheating on your partner is wrong. But sleeping with your partner out of wedlock is okay?

Okay cheating on your spouse is ethically wrong. But is Vijaya even a spouse?Akshay has not even touched her. Vijaya has had no connection with Akshay emotionally, mentally or physically? He hides her secrets from her, is not mentally connected to her, sleeps on a different bed. But she is his wife. How? Kis maayne me patni he? Nandini has had more contact with Akshay in her brief time than Vijaya has had for eight years .

Seven revolutions does not make someone your spouse. A husband wife relationship goes much much deeper than that.

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Maharaani

@Maharaani

Senior Member

Posted: 7 years ago

#16

A person's whole life is decided on the act of revolving seven times around a fire.

If you have revolved with a certain person around that fire, then that person is your soulmate. Even if she is a stranger. Even if you don't love her. Who cares about your heart? Jisse shaadi ki usi se pyaar karne parega. Zabardasti hi karo par patni se hi pyaar karo. Baaki tumhaara pyaar, tumhaari chaahat gayi tel lene.

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Absolutely. The importance of man made institution over god-made soul ties and heart felt emotions are the results people live unhappily in loveless marriages. If you separate lovers , break their sacred bond , and marry or marry off forcefully someone else's love then it is okay in India or may be everywhere...love is not respected, but only rituals...if you break a loveless non existent marriage , then you are the villain. So poor Nandini mainly and after her Akshay is the villain. Irfan was lecturing about Khushiyan but isn't the same khushiyan made from destroying Nandini's khushiyan . The same happy or so called happy family is erected upon the grave of Nandini's happiness and dreams...and she cannot even claim back what was hers in first place and was taken away from her without her knowledge and against her consent even if the one who took it away did so unknowingly, still if someone takes away something from me unknowingly, I still can claim it back !!

Love is way above laws or rules ...The exemplary, the legendary greatest lover pair of Lord Krishna and his beloved Radha is the ultimate proof...they were not married...Radha was someone else's wife...but she was so madly consumed in Krishna's love that society had to bow down before her devotion ...KRISHNA-RADHA ARE WORSHIPED TOGETHER...NOT RADHA WITH HER HUSBAND OR KRISHNA WITH RUKMINI...!! God Vishnu gave this message to mankind through this avatar that love is a form of worship in it's greatest sense...worldly norms cannot even touch it...wish people took the lesson .

Edited by Maharaani - 7 years ago

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Hina

@hinz

Moderator

+ 9

Posted: 7 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: Maharaani

This is a show where you can sympathize with every character...all are good people with some human imperfections , and are victim of circumstances. No one is evil or villain. All good humans with imperfections. All have their own story and emotional pain and all deserve happiness...that is what the show is about...Vijaya lost her love and now the man she is with cannot love her...that is her pain...Akshay to honor his good friend's fiancee sacrificed not only his love but someone who meant his life and whom he cannot forget...Nandini, an orphan and Akshay, her fist and last love, whom she cannot forget, whom she loved unconditionally and loves so much that cannot think about any other...her love left her for some duty he considered was to be done, but Akshya was guilty to Nandini here, because he considered his decisions on this relation can be taken by himself only without consulting the other who will be drastically impacted by this decision to marry dead friend's would be wife...because love is like a joint account, one cannot withdraw money without the other's signature..so Nandini suffered for no fault of her own...the pain almost finished her and she went to depression...

So here only the circumstance and fate is responsible...Akshya-Nandini have some faults, but they have lot of good qualities too... no one is above fault...my only objection is bashing only Akshya and Nandini for everything and expecting a lot from them while always siding with Vijaya and Neeti...might be sometimes Akshya's ways wrong but heart is above logic and they have suffered and sacrificed also a lot.

Akshya is expected to whole life make sacrifices after sacrifices for Vijaya and neeti...keep them happy at his own expense and never be happy himself... he was scorned because he let Nandini, his love, know the truth about his loveless marriage...but why should not he, does he have no duties towards Nandini who misunderstands him to be a dhokhebaaz, he did not tell publicly but Nandini has rights to information about things that matter to them...like if Akshya is happily married and a biological father to a kid, what looks like a happy family actually does not exist and it is a loveless marriage...Nandini is expected to love Irfan just because he likes her...is love some light switch, it happens spontaneously and just because you are one good fren does not mean one falls in love with you Mr Irfan...why did Nandini accepted Akshya back she is questioned, it is because since she knew that Akshya had some majboori and he did not cheat her on purpose and that he did not cheat her on purpose or had affairs with Vijaya and that his marriage is just name's sake and he still loves Nandini...in this shallow world good qualities like Forgiveness is diminishing but revenge is substandard and forgiveness is heavenly they say...she forgave her soul's love...forgave Akshay... as true love forgives and is unconditional...she now thinks about herself before others who came to Akshya's life without her knowledge and consent. It is not her fault. May be you do not believe in giving someone a second chance, but may be she does.

So take this as a complex story where characters are all puppets in hands of circumstances and fate...it is not like Vijaya is Villain or Akshya-Nandini are...when the show started creatives and Gaurav even Shefali said same thing, here no one is bad...all are good but imperfect and are dil ke hathon majboor ...victims of circumstances and intense emotions.

It is a complex love story in this sense, like just because Vijaya is formally and societal rule wise attached to Akshya , Nandini does not become villain or other woman...rather she is the most dearest and imp woman who is not on papers in Akshya's life..it is a different story in sense it does not judge people on conventional standards and not a duplicate to Biwi No 1 where the other woman is shown like some witch and mangalsutra power etc...here things are complex...will Akshya's duty win or love ...it is based on that...well Akshya has also duties towards both love and wife...Akshya has affections for Vijaya but cannot love her ...Vijaya is a nice accommodating person who expects Akshya's love.

So rather than bashing only the lovers and siding with Vijaya always, one should watch it in a non-biased mind. You can have your favs but don't bash the other couple...be in their shoes and understand they have their own view point towards life...for some convention is imp...for some love is all encompassing. Everywhere it is shown that convention wins , may be this time love does.

Anyway it is no use bashing show or creatives even because they have it all mapped out inside mind and they have episodes made as per their vision...this show is not same routine shows that are made for TRPs and they made it clear along with Shefali, they will show it as per their vision...if you do not like switch to some other show that are xerox copies of each other..and even if the show does not have very long run, they will finish/complete it by showing what they want to show and convey ...and it may not be a very popular or conventional view but still something rare and different so watch show with open mind without lot of judging and bashing and if it does not suit, one can always opt not to see it, but let other s enjoy who are liking it.

Loved reading this👏👏👏kudos to you for putting it down so well

I agree that this is not the usual routine show, its made for a mature audience and we find it hard to accept such shows cuz we are used to regular kinds. Its not here for the TRPs and highlights some social evils of our society which we prefer not to speak of...

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Hina

@hinz

Moderator

+ 9

Posted: 7 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: 81kash
Apart from all this discussions, we are watching this serial. We all can have different POV and perceptions. Its a healthy discussion, I see the show at no.41... Hope it increases...Irfan is also one likeable character. Good to see him getting angry on Akshay because of Ratan. I felt Akshay reaction was little too subtle.
Happy Eid Mubarak to all of you!!!

Belated Eid Mubarak to you too...

Yes we can have conflicting views and opinions and thats what makes discussions interesting...Lets hope they churn out realistic tracks and bring out the best in every character by keeping them close to reality and not making them succumb to the TRP race

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Maharaani

@Maharaani

Senior Member

Posted: 7 years ago

#19

Dear Hinz, thanks for appreciating and understanding and I am sorry if while expressing my view I have hurt anyone unknowingly. Lets keep our favs but at same time not bash the other and lets hope the show lives up to everyone's expectations and no character is faced with injustice. And all live happily in their lives...though I favor Akshya NANDINI, I ALSO DO NOT WANT BIJAYA TO BE SAD .Edited by Maharaani - 7 years ago

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Yuvika

@Yuvika_15

Moderator

+ 5

Posted: 7 years ago

#20

i don't like akshay nor nandini since what they are doing now is actually CHEATING... akshay is cheating on vijaya with Nandini and she is fully aware of it which is the sad part as being a woman she's doing this to another woman. No matter what akshay says, she should know better that going after a married man is so wrong.

If akshay is so certain he wants to be with nandini then why is he waiting for so long? why doesn't he just openly tell vijaya that nandini is his first love and he wants to be with her? why does he think its ok for him to go behind her back, lie to her and go on dates with nandini?

As others in this thread have pointed out, he wasn't forced to marry vijaya and now that he has he should remain committed to it, but if he feels he can no longer remain committed to her then he SHOULD tell her - I don't see why he has delayed in telling vijaya - its not like they don't have that understanding between them...

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