Episode 14 - Bali - Daan - ya Balidaan

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Posted: 9 years ago
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What would you call this action of Dashratha?
The Bali of his daughter in his desire to have a son?

The Daan given by Kaushalya to maintain the maryada of her family ?

The Balidaan down by Shanta to measure upto her fathers expectations ?


Seeing today's episode, I realised the angst of Kaushalya

I also realised why her love for Rama will always be tinged with pain

And the joy of seeing him will always also have a sense of loss


And it also became evident why knowing Rama's sensitivity and samvedansheel nature

She never wanted to tell him shanta's truth


For Rama this news that in order to have him, his sister had to be sacrificed

Was heartbreaking, but he is Rama, he doesn't react emotionally, he also does not judge his father

Harshly, rather his heart doesn't dwell on his own pain, rather on his mothers and he wants to soothe his mothers soul and mend the damaged relationship of his parents

What a contrast between Mithila and Ayodhya - in terms of the attitudes of the two kings towards their daughters

And it's true isn't it, just as raja Dashratha is known by his son Rama, so is raja Janak knows by his daughter Sita!

Sita tries her best to comfort her younger sisters and mandvi and shrutkirti deal with their grief at impending separation


Another episode that was well made and raised some more disturbing issues - that of the importance given to sons over daughters

A topic that is still very relevant and contemporary - female feoticide and skewed sex ratios being examples of the same


A must watch episode - did not know this version of the shanta story, it was upsetting and clarified Kaushalyas negativity very well.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics

What would you call this action of Dashratha?

The Bali of his daughter in his desire to have a son?


I would call this completely fake and false, as it NEVER HAPPENED!!!

I hope the CVs are happy. They have now destroyed Maharaj Dashrath's character beyond redemption, showing him as a man who sacrificed his daughter to have a son. 😡

Today's entire episode was a total joke. From the very beginning, the CVs glorified Maharaj Janak by degrading Maharaj Dashrath, and now they have gone an ultimate low by showing Dashrath as a daughter-hating man.

Do the CVs know that when Ram got married to Sita, Dashrath shed tears of happiness and said to Kaushalya that God has filled the void of not having any daughters, by giving him four daughters-in-law?

Yes, he wanted an heir for his dynasty, but he had no animosity towards female children.

Shame on you CVs! You have destroyed Ramayan today.
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


I would call this completely fake and false, as it NEVER HAPPENED!!!

I hope the CVs are happy. They have now destroyed Maharaj Dashrath's character beyond redemption, showing him as a man who sacrificed his daughter to have a son. 😡

Today's entire episode was a total joke. From the very beginning, the CVs glorified Maharaj Janak by degrading Maharaj Dashrath, and now they have gone an ultimate low by showing Dashrath as a daughter-hating man.

Do the CVs know that when Ram got married to Sita, Dashrath shed tears of happiness and said to Kaushalya that God has filled the void of not having any daughters, by giving him four daughters-in-law?

Yes, he wanted an heir for his dynasty, but he had no animosity towards female children.

Shame on you CVs! You have destroyed Ramayan today.


It is different from the story of shanta as I have read online, and it puts Dashratha in a very negative light. Again I will raise the question, are the cvs completely going off track in their attempts to make this story appeal to today's generation?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


It is different from the story of shanta as I have read online, and it puts Dashratha in a very negative light. Again I will raise the question, are the cvs completely going off track in their attempts to make this story appeal to today's generation?


I do not agree that one must change the story of Ramayan to appeal to the younger generation! The younger generation is not so shallow nor stupid not to appreciate the original story of the epic. So many adaptations have been made in recent years, all of them geared for the younger generation, and none of them have degraded King Dashrath in this way.

This show has sunk an ultimate low. I am really furious with the CVs right now. 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes, It is indeed different from what I read on the net.
Why did they make Dasharath the villian ?

Just to show Janak in good light and raise this question of Son vs Daughter ?

The question that is raised is sure with a good motive.

And Yes, it is a known fact that Dasharath was desperate for a son.

But the story they have created is not in good taste.

Is there any way, we can clarify this with the writers ?



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Originally posted by: adi2512

Yes, It is indeed different from what I read on the net.

Why did they make Dasharath the villian ?

Just to show Janak in good light and raise this question of Son vs Daughter ?

The question that is raised is sure with a good motive.

And Yes, it is a known fact that Dasharath was desperate for a son.

But the story they have created is not in good taste.

Is there any way, we can clarify this with the writers ?




Sorry, but I am not as optimistic as you. I don't care what motive the CVs have, but to degrade a great character in our holy puranas just to show the greatness of another King, and to raise the question of son vs. daughter is simply not acceptable. Show Ramayan as it is. Don't degrade any of its characters! Ramayan has plenty of good messages already without twisting its tale to add more.

Dashrath wanted an heir, because back in those days a kingdom without an heir was in danger of being overtaken by enemy rulers. But nowhere does it say he was anti-daughters. To show this in our generation, where people are already so sensitive about this issue, is totally wrong and spreads the wrong message about Dashrath!
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


Sorry, but I am not as optimistic as you. I don't care what motive the CVs have, but to degrade a great character in our holy puranas just to show the greatness of another King, and to raise the question of son vs. daughter is simply not acceptable. Show Ramayan as it is. Don't degrade any of its characters! Ramayan has plenty of good messages already without twisting its tale to add more.

Dashrath wanted an heir, because back in those days a kingdom without an heir was in danger of being overtaken by enemy rulers. But nowhere does it say he was anti-daughters. To show this in our generation, where people are already so sensitive about this issue, is totally wrong and spreads the wrong message about Dashrath!


Mythology I feel is always getting rewritten and reinterpreted across ages. So, I am not very worried with reinterpretation.

But I agree with you on this point that Ramayana already has lots to teach us, without adding additional messages.

Otherwise if you see, different versions of mythological stories have arisen because different people fit their own creative spiel around the facts - so factually the stories remain the same, but the anecdotes built around them keeping changing
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@RamkiJanaki,
I was only optimistic becoz, few days back, I saw on the forum, one of the member's twitter convo with the writer...wrt feedback on Jabali...

and even the feedback from the designer.

I have not seen any such situation till now, where the creative team seem open to suggestions or questions.

So my query...

o/wise, me too well aware of soap world...😉😆

I generally do not watch any soaps, and consciously stay away from mythologies or historical becoz of these various distortions they tend to take...

This show, I've started and continuing watching, becoz, I was impressed with the treatment till now.

Not watching the show for any feeling of divinity , but just that I feel, I'am able to learn something from it..

But Yes., this tweaking of a good man like Dasharath is sure to ruffle many feathers...

and we who know , how to get info from internet and sorts, can question the genuinity...but what about the general audience who do not normally go into any research, and take the story at its face value ?

This is definitely not appreciated of them, and if they are open to feedback, we must of course voice it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: adi2512

@RamkiJanaki,

I was only optimistic becoz, few days back, I saw on the forum, one of the member's twitter convo with the writer...wrt feedback on Jabali...

and even the feedback from the designer.

I have not seen any such situation till now, where the creative team seem open to suggestions or questions.

So my query...

o/wise, me too well aware of soap world...😉😆

I generally do not watch any soaps, and consciously stay away from mythologies or historical becoz of these various distortions they tend to take...

This show, I've started and continuing watching, becoz, I was impressed with the treatment till now.

Not watching the show for any feeling of divinity , but just that I feel, I'am able to learn something from it..

But Yes., this tweaking of a good man like Dasharath is sure to ruffle many feathers...

and we who know , how to get info from internet and sorts, can question the genuinity...but what about the general audience who do not normally go into any research, and take the story at its face value ?

This is definitely not appreciated of them, and if they are open to feedback, we must of course voice it.


Well it happened when ramanand sagar presented his Ramayana, it became the one everyone related to, though of course that one did not take too many liberties, these stories are not etched in stone and will be open to interpretation.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


Well it happened when ramanand sagar presented his Ramayana, it became the one everyone related to, though of course that one did not take too many liberties, these stories are not etched in stone and will be open to interpretation.


I was a kid then...very young...it was etched in my mind...very vaguely..😃

But by that time, I already knew, the basic story of Ramayana...crtsy, Bala Ramayan that my parents made me read...😳

Recently, I've watched few episodes...just to look once more at its treatment...

the disclaimer was very clear there...that it is based on "Ramcharith Manas"

Even the songs / verses used there are part of it, I think...It does have more of a divine feeling. and ppl sure felt same too...

Have not watched any other versions.

But yes, watched quite a no . of of old movies - on Ramayan in my mother tongue ( again crtsy my parents )..

Each movie had a new story to tell that i did not know...

But they never dared to 'tweak' these prominent characters.😆


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