Sabhayata
Some things have to be derived at. Neither Krishna nor Panchali enter MB before SV. Krishna didn't go there just to pass time. He either went there 1) to participate, or 2) because he knew what the plan was.Why would we think that he didn't have a plan and just took advantage of an opportunity. He WAS a master strategist, after allThe friendship between GoLi cannot be explained any other way but pre-SV
Bold -hmm because i dont see him as a master strategist nor pandvas and others as mere puppets or pieces of chess game that he moved around
yes a strategist definitely but not a master one more of some one who guided,counseled and helped pandavs and panchali when they needed it
I do think other characters do have their own importance and mind and desires and mostly did what they wanted to but yes when pandavs needed help then krishnna ji did guide them and help them and made strategies for them
Infact he mostly comes into the story only when pandvas need help or guidance
like we were discussing the other day as well regarding Rajsuya yajna this wasn't krishna ji's strategy.He isnt even involved in the initial discussion.Its Yudhishtir who wanted to subdue the kings in his names and he had discussed it with his councilors later he called Kirhsna ji to council him about it as well and then krishna ji advised him how to start it and stratigized to get Jarasandha out of the way after that rest was done by pandvas only.
Same is with other incidents also for me
Regarding him planning the swyamaber the only thing that would indicate that is he didn't participate.He was there because he was invited but yes ultimately didn't participate which could be interpreted as he already knew Arjuna would be there or could also mean that once he recognized Arjuna and knew pandvas were there decided not to either is possible
GoLi friendship hmm i would say its possible either ways pre or post SV no way to be sure about it but i would go with post SV since that is when i see them spending time together not pre.But ya i guess to each their own
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