Young love portrayal in KYY-your take?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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As i was reading eveline's post-the rose colored lenses and the responses, the physical intimacy being a part of every relationship got me thinking about how KYY is portraying it and I was not disappointed at all with whatever they have shown till now. Let what I am saying not take you away from the delight that Manan have been gifting us with. Its just a take on young love and its potrayal in KYY. If it interests you, please feel free to give your frank opinion-critical or otherwise.

Not long ago in tv and cinema, physical intimacy was associated with morality. Yes there are certain general codes of moral conduct, but expression of affection through physical touch is no longer seen as moral/immoral by a large majority today. People define and set their own boundaries now. It is a subjective thing. Yes taking the ultimate step-the 'doing it' does have other implications though-medically, emotionally, mentally. You have to ave that maturity to know and handle the implications. You have to be emotionally and mentally ready specially when you have been brought up in a culture where it's not been the acceptable norm.

I think KYY is also taking care to show the difference. When they suggested that Manik and Alya had a physical relationship, it did not feel that they did something wrong-they knew each other and had been brought up in a society where it was not taboo and they seemed to be comfortable with it. They knew well what they were doing and the results of it.
While Navya decided to give in to her emotions, decided to give in to the moment-she did not think it through-the consequences and not evaluating the man in question or what the act meant to him/whether it held the same importance for him as for her and it turned out he was not 'her' Mr.Right...hence the resultant scenario-bad-both felt trapped and were unable to handle the whole situation.
Like in the case of Navshad, differences also existed in the environment in which Manan were brought up and in their respective upbringings, but they being our ideal couple how would they handle it if in a similar situation. Now this is wherin they show the difference-Nandini being our wise little one felt that she was not ready for 'the step' and expressed her hesitation and asked to go slow-taking time until she was ready. Whatever her surroundings were since her childhood and her upbringing might be, she was not closed to the idea of physical intimacy but was mature enough to give consideration to it before she took the plunge. Very wise. Nandini seems to strike perfect balance in between being Alya and being Navya, she is at the centre-epitome of perfect balance.

So, its ultimately is not about the right/wrong of the act but two right people connecting at the right age and their maturity and readiness to handle their situation and actions, all the time ensuring the 'safety' of their actions. Because where one thing leads to another, physical intimacy leading to the ultimate thing is a risk -it will have its consequences maybe not the 99 times but in that 100th time.[As Harshad fumed that he did use protection so what Navya was saying was not possible.Now we don't know if he was telling the truth or not-but this just proves that its better to be safe than sorry.]

I like the three cases/the different approaches that they have shown regarding physical intimacy/culmination of love in the show. I can assume that they are being somewhat responsible in what they are showing in KYY-while showing expression of physical love has become acceptable to many in today's time in our culture as well, at the same time showing the pitfalls/the consequences, of the same-the dangers that might be lurking if care is not taken. The key is to act responsibly-and what better person than to show it than through Nandini, the idealistic one-the one who has to do everything right-as Parth has pointed out in one of their interviews.

However My analysis/interpretation/ conclusions are based on what I have seen uptil now as I don't know what developments and growth we will witness character-wise in the future. I could be proved wrong as there might be no message but developments only to tackle the current plots and taking it forward.

P.S.: However, if I strictly take the case of reel-life, and could feel free to enjoy it without thinking about the message the medium has the danger of portraying, I was actually bugged when Nandu halted Manik's progressing steps towards her, stopping him from kissing her and asking to start as friends. I thought what the heck-with so many 'anything but friends' feelings in heart, how is it possible to wait and be friends..starting from scratch-when all Manik's heart is longing is, to take the ultimate step and me wanting to watch Manan move fast and their intimate scenes being such a delight. But then again this vuew strictly pertains to Manan-the onscreen fantasy. For there is a line between fantasy and reality.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Your Analysis was 100 percent correct ...I feel the same too...Relationships are not always about giving in...but also about Holding in...to the Urges...that rule us...Manik never had to hold it in to any of his urges...until he met Nandhini Murthy...No one taught him that...not even his ex-girlfriend...his environment too helped form his mindset...Nandhu has to change him...so much...to make him a stable person...from the extreme personality that he is...If she was not there in his Life...surely he would have ruined himself...He is lucky that she loves him...inspite knowing his Exteme MPersonality and Shortcomings...
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i agree cumpletely they ar showing t extremely welll i would like to praise ur post because i ws highly impessed b the way u voicced your thoghts

Edited by jas112 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arathim

Your Analysis was 100 percent correct ...I feel the same too...Relationships are not always about giving in...but also about Holding in...to the Urges...that rule us...Manik never had to hold it in to any of his urges...until he met Nanhini Murthy...No one taught him that...not even his ex-girlfriend...his environment too helped form his mindset...Nandhu has to change him...so much...to make him a stable person...from the extreme personality that he is...


Seriously with so many missed chances at kissing Nandu, Manik had to show a lot of self-restraint. 😆 😆Nandini was taking her own sweet time. I am not saying Manik is wrong in what he wants at all coz when two people are ready and know what they are doing they make it look like the most comfortable relationship. You see how two people who end up giving in to their physical intimacy can make it look wrong and again two people can make it look like the most comfortable and right thing to do-depends on how they handle it and if they are on the same plane-wanting the same things from relationship-moving together in same direction[relationship-wise]. I think Manik and Nandini want the same thing ultimately but their timings do not match. Nandini wants to take her own time. She wants to go slow. She will have to explain to Manik why. or the poor guy will have a difficult time waiting with all the pent-up feelings which is also not healthy.😆 😆


But you are right. She does bring stability and a certain calm/normalcy to his life. He himself confessed indirectly that she's been giving a lot of life lessons to him which he's values. And the changes in his behaviour -the impact of Nandu are there for everyone to see.

Thanks a ton for commenting.

Edited by myvoiz - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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For me ky2 and real life is very alike.they showed teenage life better than any one i have ever seen.and now sex is not a big deal for many.so i love there style.will its my take on ky2
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very well-put.
I loved how you pointed out the differences between the three couples in the show. The NavShad scene stands in stark contrast to the way MaNan are progressing, and the issue of teen pregnancy will bring this discussion out into the open. This is a youth show, and I for one would love to see a young couple, who love each other, have a mature discussion about this and then take the step. It's a good way to promote sexual awareness without the moralistic stand that most of desi tv seems to take about these issues.

Realistically too, Manik-Nandini know very little about each other. She knows nothing about his family, his personal likes and dislikes, nothing except for his relationship with Fab5 and his general character. He knows about her family background because he'd done a full background research on her during the 'Spot' days, but even he hardly knows about the kind of life she'd led before coming to Mumbai, or what her interests are. I'd love to see them date, and get to know each other, because that is the only way we the audience will get to know about them too. Plus Manik is sexually experienced, Nandini is very new to physical intimacy and has grown up in a conservative background on top of that. She's actually very open-minded when you look at it, but their intense physical attraction justifiably scares her and she does not want to be impulsive about this.

I don't think she wants to start from scratch as such, that's not possible. Maybe she meant they need to strike a balance between physical intimacy and meaningful conversation, which Manik's raging hormones are preventing them from doing right now. Her timing and wording was not the best today, but once he calms down and she explains herself, this should be a very mature way of showing a healthy teenage romance onscreen.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: jas112

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i agree cumpletely they ar showing t extremely welll i would like to praise ur post because i ws highly impessed b the way u voicced your thoghts

well thank you girl. Let's c how they handle the pregnancy track, lest I might have to take back my words.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: bloodfortears

For me ky2 and real life is very alike.they showed teenage life better than any one i have ever seen.and now sex is not a big deal for many.so i love there style.will its my take on ky2


First of all, thank you so much for giving your opinion. I also like KYY and the way they are showing teenage life. I am not criticising them. I agree with your take. That Yes KY2 is very relatable-quite realisitc and Sex has become an acceptable thing. What I am trying to convey is when you are 17-18, or in your teens, which is a delicate age, when you are very sensitive and impressionable, you got to give it some thought before doing it. You should be well-aware of the results and how to handle it if something goes wrong. Plus it should be with the right person and should be safe. And KYY shows it perfectly well that it is no longer a big deal but if you take a step without thinking it can be dangerous. We also have seen so many true cases in Gumrah and Webbed where when people got into physical intimacy without thinking things turned out wrong and most of the stories are about teenagers/youngsters.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good post. Very well written and thought through! I agree with everything you have said.

One of the reasons why I got hooked to this show is that it is in touch with reality. Yes they do take cinematic liberties but they never play around with issues that they youth are being faced with today.
How we behave, our moral compass, our idea of what we can or cannot accept is largely dictated by the society we are brought up in, by our surroundings. And we should be very proud of that. Intimacy is a very sensitive issue and could blow up in one's face and ruin one's life if not handled or nurtured properly - case in point Navya.

I would also like to add that sometimes when a young relationship goes wrong and hearts are broken, it can lead to the girl putting up false bravado and becoming the aggressor - like Mukti. Harshad cheating on her was so impactful that she has slotted all the men (minus Fab3) into one category, that they only want one thing and that if they have no problem sleeping around then neither does she and because she has been doing it for so long, it is hard for her to accept the refreshing change that is Abhimanyu. She cannot believe that he does not want her for her body. They have not shown us her story in full but it is clear that Mukshad were intimate (to whatever extent) when she was quite young and it was her first love. and he cheated on her thereby breaking all illusions of love. Making her into this person who uses offence as the best defence to protect her heart. Who needs to take anti-depressants to forget about the trauma of her heartbreak, which we all know is worse when one has crossed first/second or all bases. Her outlook towards men has further damaged her life and she does not realise that yet. and many girls go through this.

Which is why in a show like KY2, a character like Nandini is very important. her moral compass is what guides her. she isnt afraid to speak up and say no, because she is not comfortable with something. she is not ruled by the pressures of society but in fact, she is very proud of her upbringing and has faith in it.
Edited by desilawyer - 10 years ago
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Awesome post...👏 and believe it or not...you took away my topic today!! I swear on Fab 5 I was gonna write about this and this only...wow...u n me do think alike or feel alike!!😆 Great minds n all!!
Handling physical intimacy on a telly show is always tricky...add to the mix that its in a country like India, as much modern as its traditional and the cherry on top, its a youth show firmly anchored on reality...BAM...that's such an explosive scenario...I sincerely feel bad for the cvs.
Lets face the facts, the gen x has a very different view on physical intimacy...its natural, its a given and a part of a relationship's progression, nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about, they take it in their stride. But a lot depends on your individual background. We all are mirrors of our upbringings, we reflect what we have seen as we were growing up!! Our morals and values are a gift from our families, we might not even be aware of accepting these gifts but they do change our moral outlook.
I think till now, the balance has been beautifully maintained in KY2 #respect!! On one side they have shown how physical intimacy is a very integral part of love, how proximity in romance plays a pivotal role in any love story and we wont have it otherwise. Yes, physicality is a very integral part of love and its high time we accept it. Attraction is indeed the first ,basic and primary stage of love.
Having covered this base gorgeously with Manan, they have established another fact with Navshad...the partner in the deed is very very important. Whether he/she is right or wrong, do you know him, or are you being blinded or bull dozed by love,..and the most important...consequences of your deed. Loved the way they sent out the message, naturally and casually that protection is a must...awesome cvs..love you for that!! But then went on to highlight that protection is not the final word and things can go wrong, so give it a thought before you take the big plunge. A big huge thank you from my side to team KY2 for stressing on this aspect of intimacy. Navya's plight is a huge eye opener for one n all I bet!! A very sensitive issue for now is being aptly handled.
And today took the cake, when Nandini, albeit hesitatingly, spoke up about her inhibitions with Manik. I was cheering all the way!! And if it would not have cropped up between them, I would have been sorely disappointed. Lately the last two episodes, had me puzzled as to why suddenly the intimacy quota had been amped to such an extent, and the text messages on the phone and today's conversation clinched the matter. The cvs are taking this exactly where it would go if a guy like Manik dates a girl like Nandini. Lets all be aware that is in a relationship, you are not comfortable with the physical aspect, pause, think and instead of being pressurized into something you might regret, speak up, discuss, talk about it with your partner. If you are mature enough to get into a physical equation, you should be mature enough to handle it too.
The Manik Aliya equation...was perfect. Looking at how long they were dating, and how young they started and their strata of society, theirs was natural and obvious.
To me nothing jars or sticks out like a sore thumb, each and every equation makes total sense.
I am absolutely loving how the different cases of intimacy have been portrayed and handled in this show. Loving it till now coz its real, its the truth out there, and they are not embroidering the truth.
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