Too much for my American mind-set

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Simran Singh

@SpicyHarmony

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Posted: 10 years ago

I literally just started watching this show, finding episodes of it on youtoube and stuff after reading the "ruthless heroes" article. And I must ask, can Samrat even be considered a "hero" at all! He's horrible! Don't get me wrong I love Mohit but seriously if they end up making Urmi forgive him, that's unrealistic. I'm still mad she forgave him for hitting her. I'm sorry but abusing your wife is not forgivable and women have every right to stick up for themselves. It was way too much for my American mind-set to accept the fact that ANYONE thought that was ok, let alone her own father. I'm sorry if I'm being totally ignorant haha. And then he cheats😡 on her and no one supports her and those who do lose their voice once Samrat, his mom or Urmi's dad raise their voices a little bit. I love me some arrogant men on these shows (like my love Arnav 😳from IPKKND, or Abhi 😉from KKB) beause it's awesome and hot and passionate . But Samrat is just abusive. So I'm not hoping for a Urmi-Samrat reunion. In fact, i hope she kicks him where the sun dont shine🤢

Hehe i REALLY needed to vent! I'd love to hear what you guys think??!

Love, Simran

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boogle

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Posted: 10 years ago

I totally agree with you! There is a difference between an arrogant, stern, serious character and characters like Samrat. He's an abusive jerk and if the writers are trying to send a social message, they should not have Urmi and him reunite.

I'm from America too and it is really frustrating to see that the other characters on the show want Urmi to go back to him. I know that these characters think like this because they represent the mindsets of some people in India. It is really sad to think that there are people in the world who think and act like this. 😒

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JAHHNAVI

@JAHHNAVI

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Posted: 10 years ago

Same here guys!
What's really annoying to me is that URMI was shown literate enough to go to the police when her Samrat ji beat her up black & blue.. BUT now that he's cheated her.. Her brain has stopped functioning or something.. 🤢
Why can't she go to the police now & lodge a complaint against Samrat for mentally harassing her. She's shown to be so weak & helpless all of a sudden. Where are the women from those NGOs who were raising slogans before? Why is she not filing for a divorce on the grounds of adultery (yes there is an Indian law for that).. Also, he's raised his hand on her again- so isn't that physical abuse? And he threatens her on the road, at school, on phone-like All the time- so why can't she record his conversation & give it to the cops? Is she that dumb or does she Enjoys being chased around? How about getting a restraining order? I can go on but this show has just lost it IMO.. What kind of 'social message' are they trying to impart by showing a helpless woman who runs like a chicken when she sees her husband who constantly refers himself as a 'sher' & calls her 'shikaar' (his prey).. Nice.. Very nice!
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Raleighbcat

@Raleighbcat

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Posted: 10 years ago

I agree with everyone's post here! I think for me to continue watching the show, I have to put aside those logical questions and just go with the flow...😆

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@HappySmiles

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Posted: 10 years ago

I know right! There really is a difference between a stern/serious and abusive person. Samrat can't be compared to the other heroes, he's not even worth that much, he has stooped way lower than the other heroes mentioned in the article.

Second of all, yes I agree. Samrat is not a "hero".😡

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Zinnia

@Mogwai

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Posted: 10 years ago

I agree with the main point that you are trying to make. But with all due respect, I do have reservations with you referring to your 'american mindset.' I'm sure there are people within India and other South Asian countries that share your views and hold a similar mindset.

Back on topic: I don't see Samrat as the hero of the show. He is the main lead (which doesn't have to be +ve) but in no way would I label him a hero. He's crossed all lines of decency and I hope the CVs never unite him with Urmi because that would be sending the wrong signal to viewers.

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Julle

@second_chances

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Posted: 10 years ago

this trend about physically aggressive "heros" and men is really disturbing. no man should man handle his woman, thats not passion, thats abuse.

same with verbal taunts and what not. its not funny, its verbal abuse.

samrat is abusive, i dont care if hes gorgeous at the same time.

tv trends like this make me worry about the youth, young woman thining her husband shoving her against the wall or twisting her wrist being romantic. its not romance, its assault and abuse!

speak up!

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boogle

@boogle

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: second_chances
this trend about physically aggressive "heros" and men is really disturbing. no man should man handle his woman, thats not passion, thats abuse.
same with verbal taunts and what not. its not funny, its verbal abuse.

samrat is abusive, i dont care if hes gorgeous at the same time.

tv trends like this make me worry about the youth, young woman thining her husband shoving her against the wall or twisting her wrist being romantic. its not romance, its assault and abuse!

speak up!

yes! Not just Indian shows, but American shows as well have been romanticizing these "passionate" romances that are really abusive relationships. It too makes me worried about younger girls who are watching these shows and don't know any better.

TV shows aren't just entertainment. They send out social messages. And when you have tv show after tv show saying that if a man grabs you in a fit of rage it's "passion", or if he humiliates you in public it is him "fighting his feelings", it is perpetuating the wrong idea. You are glamorizing and romanticizing abusive relationships and that is irresponsible.

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Simran Singh

@SpicyHarmony

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: .Wanderer.
I agree with the main point that you are trying to make. But with all due respect, I do have reservations with you referring to your 'american mindset.' I'm sure there are people within India and other South Asian countries that share your views and hold a similar mindset.

Back on topic: I don't see Samrat as the hero of the show. He is the main lead (which doesn't have to be +ve) but in no way would I label him a hero. He's crossed all lines of decency and I hope the CVs never unite him with Urmi because that would be sending the wrong signal to viewers.

Sorry! I didn't mean it to sound like it's only in America that people have that mindset. I know there are people from that region that have that mindset as well. My point in saying that was leaing more towards the difference in society. I love watching Indian shows because it connects me more with my culture but in EVERY SINGLE show there is a line used which is "what would everyone (meaning society or there town) think?" That really gets me mad because i feel like "who cares! Do what's best for you!" And it also makes me sad to think that people would actually side with Samrat if this was actually real. Which in some cases it is. So I'm asking you... does that really happen in India? I have no clue but I know for a fact that if a man beat a woman here in America, society would ve on her side.

Let ne make it clear that in no way am I trying to insult India. I love India, that's why it makes me sad to think that this actually happens there.

Love, Simran

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Simran Singh

@SpicyHarmony

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: boogle

yes! Not just Indian shows, but American shows as well have been romanticizing these "passionate" romances that are really abusive relationships. It too makes me worried about younger girls who are watching these shows and don't know any better.

TV shows aren't just entertainment. They send out social messages. And when you have tv show after tv show saying that if a man grabs you in a fit of rage it's "passion", or if he humiliates you in public it is him "fighting his feelings", it is perpetuating the wrong idea. You are glamorizing and romanticizing abusive relationships and that is irresponsible.

Speak the truth ladies! Mmm I'm assuming you're ladies? Hehe tell me if I'm wrong! Okay so i feel the need to defend myself. I absolutely do not condone violence in a relationship and i didn't mean to make it sound like I did. I had a boyfriend who decided he would like to hit me. I would like to say that I am proud of myself for slapping and leaving him. Then I told my cousin/brother Karan and lets just say it wasn't fun for that guy. But enough about that idiot, my point is that I know violence is not attractive and I'm not romantisizing it. On humiliation? Yes i totally agree with you, I will never find any guy who humiliates me in public attractive. Or in private. But I also know that it's not unforgivable but the man would seriously have to change and be sorry. Words hurt but can be forgiven. The appeal of love/hate for me is the concept that despite it all, despite the insults you BOTH throw, and trying to ignore it, you are inevitably pulled towards that person. And it's cute and romantic if they are both genuinely good people. And in most of these shows, these men are good people, the CV's make it a point to establish that. Samrat, however, is a pig. On the subject of "manhandling" i disagree. I think we all get angry and we all instinctively do that. I know i do. Now if he grabs me, i will tell him and he should stop. If he doesn't then it's a problem. Men are aggressive by nature and i won't condemn them for that. I know my brother Karan, who i was talking about earlier, is very aggressive and he didn't even realize until one of his girlfriends told him. And i will swear on anything that Karan would never hit a girl.

I would also like to say that it works both ways. Girls who insult and hit are not attractive. I'm not proud that i hit that guy but iwas defending myself so i don't regret it. Violence should never enter a relationship no matter who does it.

Love, Simran

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