Raman was ready

Originally posted by: smilydear

True , Actually they both are ready BUT not sure about the others feelings They both are ready as we saw during Shower scene and after that mirror scene that there was no awkwardness there was only shyness , No one wants to leave each other they just want wants to read what is there in each others eyes . During mirror scene also Ishita felt good for whatever happened and was not ready to listen to any excuse as she wants that to be like in its pure form no cover-ups and Raman also when she left accept he's looking her in a different light .

Next time when he saw her fighting for him as well as for there daughter . He was ready to give a fair chance to Ishita and was ready to convey that to her too as he thought still she is thinking his only beautiful memories are with Shagun. He made his place clear while saying "memories can be faded and new can be rebuild, They can rebuild together" She is still a little hesitant to accept that he is ready to move on . Then was my best part He said like Pasta u cooked , He pointed out only those memories which were between Raman- Ishita only Ruhi was not there neither at Pasta time nor when she gave lectures to her. In his own way he conveyed to her that our memories are already building up the only need is to a little polishing. Raman did his part of conveying , Ishita did her part of conveying by running away with her shyness after shower scene. The only thing is to decode the messages given to each other .

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Last night he saw the same woman who always fought with him - fight against someone for him, for their daughter and in one moment acknowledged there could have been no better mother for his child, no better woman for him...he took her hand and led her away from there but what mattered here is he went away and held her hand while at it...the fact that he could have merely asked her to come along would have sufficed to get Ishita to comply, but he wanted to hold her hand now not to show off but because in her he has finally found a partner with whom he wants to walk all the walks of his life with...

coming to the convo by the car - I saw it as a coming a circle - in a friend' party on a bench Ishita and Raman made the transition of being the parents of two children from one where she made him promise to inculcate her in every matter of their children and asked him to stand by her... she even asked him to be civil and polite to their birth mother Shagun.

Last night when he thanked her she spoke of his happy memories with Shagun because she didn't want even this event to taint things cos no matter what as the mother who gave them birth - Shagun would always matter to Raman, his children and even her... hence her lines about Shagun to Ruhi too...not just as a way to teach the child but also a way to see reason once she was cool enough to process things and understood the things she herself said in the heat of the moment to Shagun.

She wanted to ensure that Raman doesn't once again enter a vicious cycle of hate which he was finally cutting through and look and behold - what he replied - that memories dont matter - they can be made now with you, new ones - our memories.

In one line he spoke of hope and indifference all at once - he dispelled the notion that he could consider the woman as important anymore as he finally acknowledged - she won't change and hence its no use wasting time, energy or even effort over her and also declared the way he now looks at life - at his future... one which has her and only her with him. A future where the only memories and times he wants to remember and cherish are ones which have her in them - he doesn't want to even acknowledge he had a life before her - a sort of AD/BC thing - but here only before Ishita and After Ishita where only the after matters not the before...

Originally posted by: -Amri-

@GloryBeckons

As a woman, I myself would be very wary of accepting something like this. That's why I understand why Ishita tried to change the topic because she felt that things had gotten too intense.

As much as a caring man that Raman is, and how much he says that Shagun is now merely the mother of his children, it's still hard for Ishita to understand this. How can she be really sure that a man who was so hung up on his past till some time ago be completely at peace now? As a woman, I completely see where she is coming from.

How can she give her heart away so freely? It is not that Raman is not sincere. She knows he is.

But Ishita has some baggage of her own- her failed relationship and her recurring consciousness about her infertility. She was rejected, because somehow Subbu made her feel that she became less of a woman, and less of a wife, because she couldn't conceive. I don't blame her for holding the cards close to her sleeve.

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As for you not able to decipher what women actually mean, that's an eternal complaint of all menfolk over the ages😆

I guess we women have been conditioned not to speak in cut and right terms. Many of us are not given the freedom to express our opinions freely. So we might give a long lecture instead of a short, snappy sentence. So that what we really want to say is disguised, lying somewhere between the lines😊

The trick is to read facial expressions😉 Most of us express more through our faces than through our words😃 And yes, don't go by what is said alone. Also learn to read between the lines😉 And we might also mean the exact opposite of what we are saying. So watch out for that as well😆

On a serious note- all that we want is to be heard. And some affectionate gestures once in a while. If you get this, you get all women😳