Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy
Also,
isn't the point of talking and justifying krishna's or pandavas acts pointless.. if it was decided from the very beginning that this war must happen...and they would win it?Then, is it not right to deduce that circumstances were conditioned at each stage to lead up to the war...starting with ganga killing her first born
Originally posted by: K.Universe.
I think the message of Krishna is quite simple: if ever you encounter murderers, molesters, cheats, power mongers, human rights abusers, thugs, and, in general, people predisposed to committing evil acts (characters such as Duryodhan, Dushasan, Shakuni, Jayadrath etc) , even if they are related to you, even if they are backed by powerful friends who are passive/active supporters of their misdeeds (characters such as Karna), even if the elders in your own family decide to play dumb and deaf as mute spectators (characters such as Bheeshma, Dhritarashtra), even if these bad elements are backed by people whom you revere (characters like Drona and Kripa), even if all these people outnumber you 100 to 1, you stick to what is right, stand your ground, fight them and decimate them by hook or by crook.
You can assume that in principle The Lord is with you if you have done mostly right in your life, but you have to also understand that He is not going to fight your battles for you (unless a divine interference is called for :)
Originally posted by: LeadNitrate
Vinzy, palace of illusions is not mahabharat. Ita interpretation of the author alone.
Originally posted by: LeadNitrate
Let us not judge Kunti so harshly. Kunti did what tones of teenage mothers do on a daily basis, closed adoption, leaving kids in foster care. Do we judge them? Apply same standard for all.
Originally posted by: hindu4lyf
True, but it raises some interesting questions and provides a different perspective. Food for thought if nothing else.e.g. "I'm going to heaven to enjoy all its pleasures with my friends. You'll rule a kingdom peopled with widows and orphans and wake each morning to the grief of loss. Who's the real winner, then, and who the loser?" - Duryodhana, Palace of Illusions.I think this is probably something quite a few of us struggle to come to terms with. The idea of the greater good, sticking to what is right and standing your ground when you know you are on the side of dharma (as mentioned above by Mr. K) is great in theory. But at what cost? Widows, orphaned children. The Pandavas got Draupadi the justice that she craved for, that she deserved, but at the cost of the Pandavas being left childless. Did the end justify the means?I think first the war was fought for reasons way more and bigger than just Draupadi's revenge. It was a mere precursor, the inevitability of war was always there considering how one set of brothers were always vying for the other's blood. If not Draupadi, some other reason would have been used. The power balance was unfairly leaning towards the unjust.See in this case , end does justify means, like Mr. K mentioned it gives you hope and encouragement to fight battles even if the odds are stacked against you. Sure there would be collateral damage, causalities and grief but the lesson and will it provides to future generations is important. There are many wars still fought in this world for the right intent or reason like say for independence, the victims - become Martyrs.I might be shooting far off with this, but Harry Potter too also offers the same defense - Sure Teddy lost his parents or a young Colin died . The whole underdogs defeating the Dark Lord. With ably guided by Albus D who thought and knew things more than anyone , his presence like Krishna was not an unfair advantage - rather it was to serve a greater lesson of hope and just.
(Excuse the Harry Potter analogy- late night ramblings)
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