Ankita/Naren non-consenual relationship

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Before everyone starts hating on me for posting this, I ask that you think of this from a realistic and legal pov and not an emotional one that consists of fandom. The Naren/Ankita relationship is one that is non consenual. Naren never gave consent to marry Ankita because as a person with such severe mental issues to the point where he cannot recognize that he is talking to a different person, he is legally, morally, and emotionally unable to consent to any sort of relationship. Naren thinks he is married to Ahana, that the person he is having sexual relations with is Ahana. Courts have frequently ruled that those with disability, mental issues, and who are beyond comprehension due to intoxication are incapable of consent and in such cases it is not sex that occurs, but rape or sexual violence. Naren may like aspects of Ankita personality but he thinks that is an extension of Ahana personality, not a whole different person. He also thinks that him and Ankita share a history in London, that she llkes and makes pizza (which Ankita does not) that she likes dancing (which Ankita does not), that she worked in London and wears Western clothing (which Ankita never has and does not like). Ankita has decieved Naren into believing and thus has taken advanatge of him.Rushali may have taken advantage of Ankita poverty but that does not make Ankita actions of agreeing to marry Naren less deceptive. In effect, since Naren is mentally incapabale of consent the marriage between Naren/Ankita is null and void since it was forced and the act of consummation was not sex but rape. We can say how can a woman rape a man but we all know that rape is not always about the physical aspects but purely about mental conceptual aspects. A drunken woman may have sex with a sober man but just bc her body said yes does not mean she was in the right state to say yes. Naren can physically perform the actions to have sex but is mentally incapabale of consenting.
I wanted to bring out this point bc it has bothered me increasingly how Naren talks to Ankita as Ahana and Ankita plays along with it. This type of relationship should not be accepted nor should it be seen as romantic. It is not. Its non-consenual and such forced relationships should never be accepted in a progressive society. I hope that anyone who does like the couple does so bc its just a tv show and not bc they truly believe that this kind of relationship is okay bc Ankita really loves Naren. Love should not and cannot absolve one of their crimes.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I some how agree with you even you use hard word .
I am already saying its relation from One side ( Annkita ) Naren not envolve in this relation by heart or mind so till then its not Pavitra Rishta when Naren except this in normal state then its called pure relation.




Naren may like aspects of Ankita personality but he thinks that is an extension of Ahana personality, not a whole different person. He also thinks that him and Ankita share a history in London, that she llkes and makes pizza (which Ankita does not) that she likes dancing (which Ankita does not), that she worked in London and wears Western clothing (which Ankita never has and does not like). Ankita has decieved Naren into believing and thus has taken advanatge of him.Rushali may have taken advantage of Ankita poverty but that does not make Ankita actions of agreeing to marry Naren less deceptive.


That point i raised before what ever Naren do with Akita he do for her Ahana for him Ankita not Exit . But people think Naren just think Ahana in his mind but whatever he do with Ankita he do for her and he love ankita now . Ahana love is just in his mind but actually he love Ankita 😕 because physicallyhe do everything with Ankita but really because he do physically everything with Ankita its the proof of his Love for Ankita now ?

No one discuss about Ankita action blaming some one else for her condition wather Pari Or now Naren but whatever happen with her its her choice . Pari and Naren change her name evry one blame then there love is not true but Ankita uses wrong name its not wrong 😕


Edited by muaaz - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i dont agree...you cant say ankita took advantage of him. after naren mental illness came in front of deshmukhs tey were ready to give ankita financial security but stiil she choose naren n on tat tym she was nt at all in luv wid him but still she tried to do her best just to cure him n on tat tym she could have married sashank.she took risk of sitting in d fire just for him n seriously no one can do tis even for d person wid whom a person has khoon ka rishta.
although naren thought tat ankita is ahana, but he started luving his wife n started to lyk her interests, lyk garlic bread instead of pizza. tat means he have falen for her n may realise it after some tym.

n if he doesnt ten he should respect ankita for all tat she has done for him. he would have died if ankita was not there
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: muaaz



That point i raised before what ever Naren do with Akita he do for her Ahana for him Ankita not Exit . But people think Naren just think Ahana in his mind but whatever he do with Ankita he do for her and he love ankita now . Ahana love is just in his mind but actually he love Ankita 😕 because physicallyhe do everything with Ankita but really because he do physically everything with Ankita its the proof of his Love for Ankita now ?

No one discuss about Ankita action blaming some one else for her condition wather Pari Or now Naren but whatever happen with her its her choice . Pari and Naren change her name evry one blame then there love is not true but Ankita uses wrong name its not wrong 😕



naren and pari changed their name but they did not change their personalities. all they did was change their name. they did not decieve the other into belieivng that the other was literally a different person. also both were of sane mind. thus the difference b/t ankita and naren and pari
Edited by nikki1591 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankifan_manju

i dont agree...you cant say ankita took advantage of him. after naren mental illness came in front of deshmukhs tey were ready to give ankita financial security but stiil she choose naren n on tat tym she was nt at all in luv wid him but still she tried to do her best just to cure him n on tat tym she could have married sashank.she took risk of sitting in d fire just for him n seriously no one can do tis even for d person wid whom a person has khoon ka rishta.

although naren thought tat ankita is ahana, but he started luving his wife n started to lyk her interests, lyk garlic bread instead of pizza. tat means he have falen for her n may realise it after some tym.

n if he doesnt ten he should respect ankita for all tat she has done for him. he would have died if ankita was not there


she married naren instead of shashank bc naren would provide the stability for her siblings and she was married at that point. marriage from her point was sacred but not naren, her sitting in a fire for him doesnt change the fact that she married him for money and decieved a mentally ill into belieing that she was his ex lover. mentally ill=incapable of consent thus that not only invalidates the marriage since naren especially literally thought he was marrying ahana. she also took advantage of him sexually bc they consummated right after he belived that he saved AHANA not ANKITA. In Naren mind, he was sleeping with AHANA. He was incapable of differentiating due to his illness and thus when Ankita let him continue on, she sexually violated him. when someone has an IQ below 70, universally they are disabled, which means that if someone knowingly knew of their condition and went ahead and had sexual relations with them it would be considered rape. Why is Ankita any different? Becase she tried to save him and therefore is allowed to take advantage of a mentally ill man who cannot give consent. If it was the girl being taken care of, would we think differently?
Whether he has fallen for her does not take away from the fact that at the moment of marriage and consumation, he was mentally ill and thought she was Ahana and could not consent and thus the marriage and sex was forced. Naren may have begun to like her interests but he thinks that is an extension of Ahana. He is so enamored with the idea of Ahana that he likes w/e he thinks Ahana likes, not what Ankita likes. This does not change the fact that he thinks that Ahana has other likes that is related to their history in London. does not change the fact that there is a history of where they fell in love, and from that their love grew and ankita does not know about this but naren thinks she does. doesnt change the fact that he fell in love with ahana the waitress who likes dancing, making pizza, etc. which ankita is not but pretends to be. That is deception and that is taking advantage of a mentallly ill man.
Edited by nikki1591 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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After she married Naren , the Deshmukh family found out the truth .They offered Ankita financial help for her family and said that they will take care of her and her family .
Ankita at that time could have easily walked away and taken help from the Deshmukhs but she told everyone that she is now married to Naren and she has full faith in her marriage and her relationship ..She said that if at this point she will not be with Naren then he may not be able to make it and can die ...Rushali had tears in her eyes when Ankita said that because Rushali was desperate to save her son at that time .
Both Rushali and Shirish were relieved when Ankita refused financial help from the Deshmukhs and supported her husband and said that she will work hard to make him better . ..
He was in such a bad shape at that time , he was all tied up and even his mouth was taped but she started taking care of him and after she came in his life , he started to get better , his attacks reduced and he was always seen happy and peaceful ...
Ankita saved his life by marrying him ...
She then fell in love with him because he was so nice to her and when she sat in that burning car , she was ready to even die for him because she loved him so much ...
Here is the link of the episode when she refuses support from the Deshmukh family and tells off everyone who disrespects Naren .
Yes, initially she did make a deal bu tlater she could have walked out of the deal but she respected her marriage and did her best for her husband ..She took a risk by marrying someone who was mentally unstable and whether this risk was right or not will be seen in the later episodes .She will have to go through a test of fire but I am sure that she will keep Naren's interest over and above everything else because she loves him a lot ...
Rushali was after her to marry her son because she wanted to save her son's life . Now the only reason why Rushali hates Ankita is because Ankits send her rapist son ( Raunak ) to jail ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Naren thinks Ankita to be Ahana, this is true..but all the doctors said that Naren needs a girl who can take the place of Ahana and only in that way Naren can be cured..Therefore Rushali found Ankita for him.This marriage did help naren a lot..I know naren still calls her ahana, but in no way did ankita decieve him..
Everyone knows that the girl from london (ahana) died in the car accident..if Ankita had any clue that Ahana is alive ,she would never agree to marry him..Naren needed a girl in his life, so ankita married him and now loves her husband a lot..

Ankita does not even know who was ahana, what she liked and disliked..she successfully made her own place in naren's life...even naren loves being with her..so i would like to believe there is love in this marriage.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I completely respect ur opinion TM and I kind of agree a little bit too, I agree that Naren doesnt know who Ankita really is, but I dont think Ankitas intentions have ever been bad, her goal has only been to cure Naren, although I also don't like how Ankita has to act as Ahana everytime and is letting Naren believe that she is Ahana, she shud not be pretending to be someone who she is not but I think her intent has always been good. She did marry Naren initially for her family's benefit and Rushali wanted Ankita to marry Naren so that Naren cud be cured so I guess it was kind of a fair deal. Ankita didn't like Naren at first but started to like him, in the Ankita-Naren-Pari matter I dont think anyone is at fault but the situation which is not good. When Naren turns back to normal I think he will leave Ankita and go back to Pari, Ankita and Naren's relationship is kind of different then Arjun-Purvi's though, at least Ankita and Naren have not delibarately decieved anyone like Arjun and Purvi did
Edited by bhallarox - 11 years ago
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gosh why cant some people stop draging arvi everywhere to show their excessive blind hatred towards them🤢

the @TM was talking about ankita naren and their relationship , how it is correct and how its wrong etc etc , nowhere did she mentioned arvi or compared them with anken . all the people have given their views on anken and their relationship . i wonder from where did arvi are dragged in between who have no connection to the story and who are not even present in the scenario.
some people can never change😡

@TM i am extremely sorry for interfering in your thread , i dont have any thing to say about anken because i dont watch this crap fest anymore. i just hope that your thread remains safe and doesnt get distracted anymore. all the best.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ashvikian4life

gosh why cant some people stop draging arvi everywhere to show their excessive blind hatred towards them🤢


the @TM was talking about ankita naren and their relationship , how it is correct and how its wrong etc etc , nowhere did she mentioned arvi or compared them with anken . all the people have given their views on anken and their relationship . i wonder from where did arvi are dragged in between who have no connection to the story and who are not even present in the scenario.
some people can never change😡

@TM i am extremely sorry for interfering in your thread , i dont have any thing to say about anken because i dont watch this crap fest anymore. i just hope that your thread remains safe and doesnt get distracted anymore. all the best.



Actually the reason I mentioned Arjun-Purvi was because I think they have deliberately caused harm to others(like Ovi, Onir) I was just kind of relating it to the Ankita-Naren story, I didnt mean to compare them but just relating Arjun-Purvi to Ankita Naren. Ankita hasnt tried to harm Naren intentionally and Naren doesnt know who Ankita is but with Arjun-Purvi, Arjun completely knew who he was marrying and Purvi did too, but they did illegal things knowingly.
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