My dear Jalal move on.. - Page 3

Originally posted by: happygolucky099

so true👏

i agree with each and every word of urs

neither jodha nor ruku deserves jalal

Originally posted by: sweetystubborn

In this case , I will say Ruku is more deserving ! She succeeded in increasing her esteem by her act yesterday !

Originally posted by: sullii

sorry to say if jalal was jallad that time jodha wasnot devi either..she als insulted jalal so many times and watever in her mind she said without even thinking..and rugu miscarriage case he didnt purposely accused..there was reason and evidence..the reason was he thought jodha hate him that why she tried killed his child. And jodha had misbehaved so many times bt i dont blame her bez at that time she used hate him..so there is no use of bring past events to present..after falling love with jodha he had done everything she asked and was ready to share everything with her bt it was jodha still was not ready..

so i dont blame jalal for accusing jodha at that night..it happened bz of MU and i dont blame jodha for getting angry and staying Amer...

bt now it is time i feel like jalal has apologised so many times so she needs to forgive him if she loves him...bt the problem is i dont see that much love in jodha eyes...she even forgave Bakshi and Shareef why cant jalal the person she love him..

Originally posted by: KSheila

Jodha will come back to Jalal..however, some of the forum members who are anti-Jodha right now seem to have forgotten the humiliation she suffered ever since marriage to Jalal. Jalal deliberately cooked up many schemes to humiliate Jodha, he ganged up on her using Ruks, using MA, using Benazir and he himself played hundreds of dirty games with her. Ruthless behavior towards her as soon as they both got married, physically hurting her and telling her that he married her to take revenge on her. Biggest are accusation on Jodha for Ruk's mis-carrigage, wanting to burn her alive then keeping her arrested like a common criminal? what about accusing Jodha of adultery and thinking she is carrying an illegitimate child? what about deliberately humiliating Jodha during Benazir track? so what that he started to fall in love with Jodha...even after knowing that Jodha drank the poison for Jalal, the husband Jalal did not waste much time to accuse his so called beloved, that she is having an affair with a strange man all along and she better leave before the Sunrise... All of the above were a calculative moves by Jalal towards Jodha, the MU is not once, twice...it was always a MU. Yes in spite of this they fell in love with each other but is the love based on trust? An attraction towards Jodha cannot be understood as true love for her. For any woman her character is her biggest virtue, when an accusation, blame comes on her character for Jodha twice in a short period of her married life, how can she ever trust a man? How many times the word 'Johar' has been used by Jodha ever since this character incident...Jodha finally found freedom from all relationships when she was in the ashram...she learnt to move on with her life which gave her the confidence to say 'NO' to Jalal. From Jodha's point of view what did she gain by marrying a 'Shehensha'? Since Jodha was a brave woman she survived the ill treat so far...but now the accusation is on the core of a woman...her character.
Imagine the ill treatment, sazish were not from just other people in Agra, the deliberate pre-calculated sazish against Jodha were directly from jalal also. Jodha is having problems trusting Jalal again, as much as she loves him, will she able to trust Jalal completely that he will never doubt her?

Originally posted by: sullii

sorry to say if jalal was jallad that time jodha wasnot devi either..she als insulted jalal so many times and watever in her mind she said without even thinking..and rugu miscarriage case he didnt purposely accused..there was reason and evidence..the reason was he thought jodha hate him that why she tried killed his child. And jodha had misbehaved so many times bt i dont blame her bez at that time she used hate him..so there is no use of bring past events to present..after falling love with jodha he had done everything she asked and was ready to share everything with her bt it was jodha still was not ready..

so i dont blame jalal for accusing jodha at that night..it happened bz of MU and i dont blame jodha for getting angry and staying Amer...

bt now it is time i feel like jalal has apologised so many times so she needs to forgive him if she loves him...bt the problem is i dont see that much love in jodha eyes...she even forgave Bakshi and Shareef why cant jalal the person she love him..

Originally posted by: fatma201

Well said. 👏

I dont understand why people always have to bring in past events when they hated each other during that time. We should concentrate with the events thats happening NOW when they are claiming to love each other.

One good rule of any happy relation is not bring up past mistakes the other has done otherwise one dosnt move forward.

Originally posted by: AbHer_neha

During Ben track also Jalal was aware of his feelings for Jodha still he insulted her a lot...people even today criticized Jodha when she asked Jalal to leave Amer during Sukanya's wedding as his life was in danger & people interpreted it in this way - "Go & die anywhere else but in Amer." Even I can say at that time Jodha didn't love him. But Jalal knew he began to love her during Ben track still he said, "Agar apki saansein bhi band ho jayein toh bhi hum apki taraf mud kar nahi dekheinge."

As far as Jodha's accusation of SKLL is concerned, what can she think of a man who has a haram full of 5000 women to sleep with? She was told that she was pregnant & she didn't have physical relation with anyone else...for a night she had been unconscious & that too with Jalal so what could she think of his character? For her Jalal was responsible for her pregnancy. In that state of mind what better could she think?

They both are at faults. Jalal admitted his mistake & I love him for that. Soon Jodha will do the same. After dakka incident even Jo knew she did nothing wrong as she din know abt MA's misinterpretation of her letter still she tolerated all bad behaviour of Jalal, so what's wrong if Jalal is tolerating the same now? I m not saying she's not at fault...infact her behaviour is now annoying me also but its unfair to call her selfish & blame her every time. Jalal is heartbroken now as both MA & Ruq cheated him but Jodha doesn't know this so why she is being blamed for not being with Jalal in his bad times? During Ruq MC track people took side of Jalal by saying that he's just of 20 so can't we apply the same logic to Jodha this time?

Originally posted by: happygolucky099

sweetu i don't think so

i agree jodha is so blank at the moment

but still she is better than ruku

i just want jodha to show some feelings 😕

she was expressionless in the last scene

Originally posted by: lashy

This is not about settling scores or tit-for-tat dear... This track was supposed to be AFTER they'd put everything behind them.. and comparing what who did to whom and when...is never going to let them take the love story forward..

If we do have to go back, then I can also say that

For every open insult he's done to her, I can count one she's done to him

For every sacrifice she's done for him, I can show you one he's done too

For every suspicion he's had against her, she's done one too

For every accusation he's laid upon her, she's done the same too!

At least, as far as I know - even in his worst behaviour (Ben track) - I never saw Jalal holding on to his ego and fighting over his room when he saw an injured Jodha laying there...even in his Ben track he had sensibility not to rule against Jodha during Shivani, to listen to her proofs in the DEK, to return her hojra etc etc...

Fine - So, we know both are faulty and both have their egos..

Yet, he's the one recognizing his faults and apologizing while she never has...

Again, I have no issues with Jodha NOT returning - that's her personal choice - if she needs time, she needs time... my only issue is her failing to see her part played in this.. she mistrusted him and lied to him first (out of good intent) - let's not forget that..only then, did he accuse her and that too when he caught her red-handed, with her not speaking anything in defence... as I've said before if she was silent and 'Vivash' because of her Vachan, his outburst was also because he was 'Vivash' - he was possessively in love with her! 😊

Jodha knows this (in her soul confession and her defense to her maasa) ...Jalal knows this too.. the difference therein lies that while Jodha's ego doesn't allow her to accept/face/admit/brave her part of the mistake, he is graceful enough (to know it and yet) to have not brought it up except during the final confrontation... nope, he didn't even utter a word to HB ...even when she went about accusing him alone!

My primary complaint in this supposedly epic track is that only one is pining and other is just blankly wondering what's happening... if it's only hurt and self-respect that's the issue then and she truly loves him as she claims, then she should be pining for him in his absence which she is not as of now...

whatever said and done - whether the CVs fault - or whatever...the love story does look one-sided in this track...even in the Benazir track, when Jalal's ego was bruised (just like this) and he was behaving so badly in open...whenever she left - one could see the 'pain' in his eyes, the 'longing'...one could see him remembering her when she wasn't around... how his eyes trailed Jodha every time Benazir left... the 'want' for her...the scenes by the fire before the marriage where he knew something was wrong - his dumbstruck gazes when he saw her in that mughalian avtaar - none of that is being shown now from her end (except a brief glimpse in Mathura)...they're showing very very little of this sort from Jodha... and that's why it's not looking convincing...