Soup boy-14th february - Page 3

Originally posted by: Neelum.drashti

@myra Nice lyrics. I missed shlok today for some reason. he was there but yet he wasn't...still aastha knowing more about his past is better for shlok.

Originally posted by: bingyy

Myra ,lovely post ,u r a die hard ashlokian ,( me too whether u believe or not ) appropriate title & appropriate song ,i heard that song so many times ,Dhanush really sang well yes, i liked it too, i was curious to know the meaning of kolaveri and found these lyrics,anyway coming to the episode ,this is going to be serious post which will sting our heart with pain but " lets face the truth of shloke love saga " kind of post

Today i felt sorry for both shlok & astha ,i cannot say that i hate the fact shloke does not love astha , i dont hate it & whatever shloke is right now ,is totally justified ,so i m sooo angry to the cvs for making this seem like a shloke swati love saga & shloke's eternal love for swati like i said before , i m sooo angry at them for that bingy its too early to put a label on it, now they are showing all this drama diary thing to show us the real meaning of his anger towards women, to get to know his past, swati was there so she must be the main star of it..but its a dead star, its light still lingers but will fade away soon..ashta must take care of that,

Myra , remember i told u before that shloke is astha's first love ,true love & she cannot let him go even if he does not love her back ,so swati is shloke's first love that he truly loved ,even if he knows she is wrong for him he cannot let her go either ,that's what happening in the story right now ,shloke hates swati for leaving him ,it hurt his ego but still he loves her also bcoz he cannot help it ,its love ,that's why he said first " why did u leave me ?" bcoz he wants answer & then "plz don't leave me ,plz don't go ,plzzz don't " bcoz he cannot help but love her ,he knows why swati left him for sure & he knows swati does not deserve his love but still he cannot help but love the wrong person knowing she is wrong ,its love after all ,no logic ,no good ,no bad comes in it ,love or hate shloke's heart is filled with swati ,no place for astha there yet

I told u back then Myra ,if astha can let shloke ever go ,then shloke can also let swati go but it now seems more & more hard as it looks like even when shloke has astha's immense love he cannot let swati go ,he cannot forget her & he wants only swati's love back not astha's love ,he wanted to conquer astha's love to prove a point to swati that he is indeed loveable but no ,he does not need astha's love ,he needs & wants swati's love only for his life to be truly happy & peaceful internally,only swati's love can give him peace i guessi dnt see it this way , he wants answers now not sure if he wants the love of someone who cheated and leave him, that's what cvs r showing ,its soo hard to digest & accept for me as fan but it is what it is ,

shloke married astha again prove a point to swati when she said "no girl can be in relationship with him ever & no girl can love u " ,thats why he wants to prove that astha loves him & married him & will be spending all her life with him ,like he said astha couple of days before, i m giving u life imprisonment in this house ,but he is not giving her married woman life yet ,he wants her to stay in his house with him forever ,why ? bcoz he wants to prove that point to swati again ,his heart is for swati only ,he wants her only thats why he does not want to give astha a married life & wifey rights ,thats why he was even angry that she got his 50% share bcoz in his life he knows he gave 50% to swati only or he only reserved that place for swati only ,he does not want to replace swati or the rights he reserved for swati only ,period

so, he was making sure astha payed for 50% share that's why all the extra work in office for her or to irritate her so that she leaves the job on her own I think ,lets get real ,I know astha is a total unprofessional ,she deserved every punishment shloke gave her but if it was swati in her place & if swati was being unprofessional shloke would have romance her instead of giving punishments you truly dont like this swati bingy😆i get it i dont either..but i hope shlokie will tell us some more abt his feelings for her, atleast through one of his usual monologues..

now it is getting clear to me more & more that bcoz shloke loves swati madly & crazily swati used to have the upperhand in their relationship & dominated him ,that's what I m getting from the diary lines ,I mean shloke would want to give even moon to her if she asked for it ,lolyes what he has written there was a bit too filmy to me but i guess some artists do write this kind of stuff in their personal diaries and shlokie here is a bit of an artist, he made that painting thing of ashta..,so NA wanted swati to be away & astha to be in bcoz he knows astha loves shloke that much madly so she will be dominated by shloke always bcoz he knows shloke can never love astha back yes good thinking here

true love happens once that depends on a person thinking, one can truly love more than once, some can only love once and others never find it..& that feelings is very special & yes ,it is not only his ego about why swati left him ,it is about his love also ,just like astha loves shloke ,shloke loves swati in same way may be even more ,cvs r going to extreme to prove that shloke's love for swati is eternal ,pure ,true & crazy ,then how come he will love astha ever ????
Myra, i said it before just bcoz astha truly loves shloke does not mean shloke will love her back bcoz love does not follow logic ,his love has to come within himself,

if swati comes back at this moment he will argue with her ,hate her but cannot let her go again & cannot let swati leave him again ,this is again an obsession for swati ,yes sometimes people even love & crave for wrong people knowing they r wrong for them ,knowing they hurt them but still cannot help it ,love is just like that & shloke is proving that ,he may want astha now bcoz she is giving him support & bcoz swati is not anymore but if swati comes ,i m not sure what will he do ,my bet is on he cannot stay away from swati & at this point i dont even think shloke wants astha's love for his happiness ,he for now just wants astha's love to prove a point to swati that he is loveable ,once swati agrees to that (if she comes again ) ,i think he will let astha go & her love easily & hold onto swati bcoz he loves her & love is blind & logic-less & he will most probably want to live his life with swati forever ,that's why his subconscious mind is asking " why did she leave & plzz don't leave me " ,in his sleep ,in drunk state he said "why r u going away from me ? where did u go leaving me ?"while in conscious mode he is saying he hates her in the car ,so even though he hates her he also loves her ,bcoz he simply cannot help but love her as his heart is not following logic ,at this moment there is nooo astha for him in his heart & no ,I don't think he can ever love her back like he loves swati or more than he loves swati ,my guess it will be a lot lesser even if he ever can love astha at all ,i ask u a question ,will astha ever love someone else like he is loving shloke or more than shloke ?? i dont think so ,same is for shlokewe can only guess what he wants, lets see what cvs wanna show next..

so,i dont know how ,i mean how cvs will show he will love astha selflessly or truly again ???? yes ,he may know that all girls r not like swati & he may start respecting girls or respect astha ,he may start trusting women through astha ,thats true also ,but love ????? i m not sure about love we humans can acommodate to everyth in life, he just cant live forever in the past and love a ghost..

the story is shloke's love for swati & astha's love for shloke which is driving them separately ,yes astha's love will be enough for now for them (if swati does not come back ) but for the rest of the life ,i m not sure ,for me ,it looks like ,she will not get shloke's true love ever ( my pov ) & sometimes in real life this type of one sided marriage can be sooo miserable ,

no comments on astha & anjali ,they r gone case for me ,one comment for NA ,i hate him & i hate cvs for shlokie swati love saga i got that verrryyy clear😆

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Originally posted by: Angie12

Today, the emphasis was again on Astha and Anjali. Yesterday, the similarities were shown where both Astha and Anjali were worried about Shlok and were taking care of him in their own way. Kalindi was shown worried that Astha would change by staying in that house and Avdhoot was trying to show her the possibility that instead of Astha changing, she probably would be responsible for bringing change in Agnihotri household.That is right, for a show who has in center a regresive thinking family, the hero of the story will actualy a woman..

Today, they showed that Astha has not changed.agree with that Her basic compassionate nature remains the same. She took the tea for Shlok and got waylaid in the middle where her curiosity took over and she got the diary from the forbidden room, though she did not forget to take the tea with her for Shlok. Then once in the room, she tried to wake up Shlok to drink the tea. When he did not respond, she fed the tea to him like the soup (spoon by spoon). 😆 i liked this connection to the title, havent seen it there first

She used her pallu to wipe his mouth and Anjali used her pallu to wipe Niranjan's shoes.angie, i too thought abt this but forgot to write abt it, this shows the staus of both women, anjali is at neeranjans feet but ashta is her husband equal..ok, except for the hight😆 But I have an aversion to use of pallu in this way though it was here shown to depict Anjali's blind submission to Niranjan and Astha's caring for Shlok. But really, can serials stop depicting this kind of stuff? Can they not use a towel to shoatw the same type of scene.😆😆i know Does pallu of an expensive saree has to be used to hammer a point to audience about certain characteristics of heroine or her MIL? Who uses pallu (and that too of expensive sarees) in real life to dust or wipe? Ok...since the episode was good, I will move on from my pet peeve.😆😆no, i liked reading it..

Coming back to Astha and Anjali, the similarities stopped today on pallu part. Anjali was satisfied that Niranjan's wishes were being fulfilled. But before she could go in, she was stopped by Vinayak who had found out about her role in driving away her old parents from the old home. He tried to show her the mirror as to what she has become because of her "devotion" to Niranjan and tried to bring out the remnants of Anjali that are still there. Anjali today clearly told Vinayak that Niranjan is her priority, with Vinayak still in dismay that she changed when without changing she could have brought changes.angie, my head is spinning😕u mean if anjali would have made a diference in that family if she didnt got changed by neeranjan?yeah i guess so, she is a smart and strong woman..

Astha was then shown reading the diary. She on other hand is shown to be different from Anjali - the one who will not change. She is a very strong person and her inner strength was visible today. She had fought back with Shlok to try to show him that she was Astha and not Swati. She was heartbroken at the realization that he did not love the way she loved him. Yet today, she had enough compassion in her to understand unconscious Shlok's torment. She sounded very mature when she realized she misunderstood Shlok as his darkness was a result of his circumstances - first his rejection and betrayal by Swati and then by his mother. She does not realize the truth that it was Niranjan who was behind all this. But she was not wrong either. Anjali has failed Shlok. She has not only failed Shlok, but all her kids who are extremely unhappy. She does not do anything for Jyoti despite knowing the torture Jyoti is facing on daily basis. She refuses to think of the missing daughter Puja and she is unable to see unhappy Varad who is in front of her eyes. So by making Niranjan her "God", she has forsaken all her kids. simply love you analysis here, agree our lil miss ashta handles the situation maturely, she understood the raeson behind shloks behaviour, esp the inluence of his mother's failure..

So after realizing that Shlok had fever, Astha ran to Niranjan the next day to ask him to call the doctor as she has lost faith in the maternal feelings of Anjali. Then she went back to take care of Shlok and she did end up breaking her principle of not sleeping on his bed.good point Then she also apologize for deliberately putting red roses in his cabin. This does not make her a typical heroine of serials, but it keeps her characterization consistent.yes, and i like this abt her, shes constant.. She was always shown to be compassionate, generous and the one who easily feels guilt if she feels she has something wrong. So her apologizing does not mean that she is going to stay with Shlok.well, i hopw she does It only means that she has realized that Shlok is more than what he has shown her on the surface or how she has interpreted him. She also realized that Shlok's background is responsible for him this broken. So now the rose colored glasses have come off and she is seeing the real Shlok and not the image she had made of him. with other words:ashta, welcome to the real world, where shlokie is a big hur baby bear!

So it was a contrast between Anjali and Astha that stood out today. Anjali changed and is planning to mold Astha into her shadow. Kalindi is afraid of that happening. But Astha has not changed and will not change her core self. YES to all here

Finally, I was wondering about Niranjan that if he was sleeping so unconcerned. It turned out that he was wide awake and aware of everything. But his own goals comes before his "jigar ka tukda" (piece of his heart) Shlok.oh yes, poor shlokie, daddy doesnt love him,mama cant show him she does, ashta only stays for 6 months only?can i take him home?i wonder if he likes snow😕 He did not go down despite knowing that Shlok was drunk and sick. Then he did rush to go to Shlok after hearing about his fever. But then stopped when he saw a frantic Astha. Then his goals took priority over Shlok where he decided to use the situation to bring Astha further close to Shlok. He is using Astha's love for Shlok to bind him to Shlok - Shlok's mental or physical condtion is a second priority. this guy is made out of stone

Then there was Sojal who was happily deluding herself that Shlok kicked out Astha only to realize that Astha has returned to Shlok's room and then heard once again that Astha was getting special treatment of not doing any housework and instead spending all the time with Shlok. So her hopes keep on getting dashed. Poor Sojal.yeah, poor thing..i just cant hate her when she does smth against ashta, she has smth good in her..she doesnt give up..

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

vm sounds very good..

@Angie, if u have time, i would love to c a vm from u😊

Originally posted by: Aishaa3

Nice post myra! Wt surprisd me in today epi ws the younger shlok ws al lovey dovey types..wrote "love u swat" on evry page!! Astha is so selfles..othrs wud feel pain for themselvs bt she tries to undrstnd the impct GG hs on him!thats ashta,she loves her projects more than herself M just bored of vinayk-anjali convos nw..want sm devpt there! Evrytime anjali jus says saheb yeh chahte woh etcaM stil cnfusd y she behavs like a robot jus cz of NA...cvs plz dnt tel me she loves hr husbnd etc

Originally posted by: misti73

Vinayak is seriously irritating me now with his advices that he is dishing out to others.and he alwas has the same clothes, jeans and that yellow tshirt, thats also irritating to me😆Vinayak reminds me of a saying that it is very easy to give advice but difficult to follow the same. I get it that he is trying to make people see what their mistakes are but has his sermons been making any differnece. Why doesn't he actively try to make any change.scared of his dada, if others make a move he will b safe..Yesterday he rightly told Varad to take care of his own life. Now couldn't he have played an active role and made sure that Varad does follow his advise. Today he was again telling Anjali about her mistake regarding treating her parents so badly and for changing herself so much.his next target will be shlok, he will tell him to move on from the past I have got nothing against him regarding advising people but I am very wary of people who are always ready to dish out advice but they themselves maintain a hands off approach. What is stopping him? Is he afraid of Neeranjan's hiding? If he cannot do anything becuase of Neeranjan's might then why does he think that Varad and Anjali will do anything. If Anjali had wanted to do anything then she would have done it long time back but she chose to change herself for Neeranjan. Today Anjali was also a bit irritated with Vinayak and I honestly cannot blame her.Coming to Anjali, yesterday I was wondering whether she was pushing Astha towards Shloke not only becuase that was Neeranjan's orders but whther she has seen that her son needs Astha. Today that doubt got cleared. Her aim regarding sending Astha to Shloke was just because Neeranjan demanded it.sadly its true She remembered Neeranjan's wishes while she was cleaning his sandals with her sari.yeah and gladly she went to him nd said mission acomplishedWhen Anjali told Vinayak that her concern for her parents ended the day Neeranjan placed the mangalsutra around her neck, it made me wonder that although mangalsutra is a symbol for marriage, in the case of Anjali it is more a symbol of bondage.good observation, she has an invisible leash attached to it tooHer cleaning Neeranjan's sandals with her sari's pallu and then her thoughts that she has fulfilled what Neeranjan wanted further drove this point to me. Interestingly she did not mention her love for her husband being the reason for her transformation.so she doesnt love him Anjali then goes to her sahid to tell him that she has fulfilled her duty and Neeranjan with a proud and satisfied look placed his hand on Anjali's shoulder. That actions not only freaked out Anjali and made her shake in fear but it alsofreaked me out because I started wondering that what is going to be her reward. The next day when Astha came running to tell Neeranjan that Shloke is not well, Anjali was worried and being told by Neeranjan that she has to make sure that Astha looks after Shloke and that Astha is not made to underatle any household chores, Anjali accepted the dictat but also threw a hurt and angry glance at Neeranjan's back. Wonder whether that was her anger at everyone been given chance to look after Shloke and she being kept away from her own son.i though she was worried but i guess that makes more sense...so out of anger she sent sojal with food? she could have gone herself so to c hger son..Yesterday I thought that whether Neeranjan had gone off to sleep. But it seemed that although he was awake he did not come down to take care of his drunk son. Even when he got to know that Shloke had high temperature, although he was worried but instead of rushing to Shloke's room he decided to make better use of this situation to make sure that Astha stays with Shloke. To Neeranjan nothing is as important than he himself and what he wants. The wellbeing of his favourite son Shloke is also thrown away in the pursuit of his own needs. No wonder Shloke is so emotionally immature and he is pinning for unconditional love like that of a child. His mother has been kept away from him and his father uses him to get things done. unhappy soul..but now ashta is here, he has another chance to stop being a loner..hope he will not chase it away

Coming to Astha, she made the herbal mixture and while returning to Shloke's room got drawn to the room that contained all the burnt reminders of Swati. That room is usually kept locked, so who opened the doors? Is it Anjali? Or is it Varad?but did shlokie locked it in the first place? Anyway Astha entered the room and discovered the diary. This time she took the diary with her and went to tend to Shloke. She tried feeding him the mixture that she had made using a spoon and then wiped his mouth with her sari's pallu. This action was very similar to Anjali cleaning Neeranjan's shoes with her sari...the only difference being that Astha's action had care and concern while Anjali's actions were a subservient one, where she is like a slave with Neeranjan as the master. Shoke holds Astha's hands and mumbles in delerium that why did she leave and that she should not leave him. With a yearning look Astha looked at Shloke and then poignantly looked at the diary. I felt that she wanted to believe that Shloke is talking about her but then looked at the diary to find some answers. She made herself comforatble on Shloke's bed and opened the diary.very well pointed While she was changing the pages of the diary and reading what was written in them, Shloke was getting very restless and he only calmed down after Astha had shut the diary. It was as if he does not want people to get an insight into his inner thoughts. He prefers guarding his thoughts and emotions and does not like sharing them. After reading the diary Astha rightly guesses that with Swati leaving him, je jas locked up his emotions and feelings and that is why he is always angry and irritated. He cannot share his thoughts and that leads to frustrations that have no outlet other than anger. Astha also decided that his distance with Anjali has further aggravated the situation.love this part of ur analysis and the way u linked his restlessness to her reading the diary Wonder whether she will try to bring the mother and son close and what will be Neeranjan's reaction to this?fume inside himself?😆While Astha was flipping through the diary, the way Shloke had written his thoughts made me think that this dairy did not belong to a mature man but to someone who is very childlike...His writing reminded me of declarations of love and affection made by teenagers.exactly Shloke maintianing a diary also showed that inside he is a very sensitive soul. Wonder did he ever share these thouhgts with anyone or did he only shared them with his diary? Astha who was angry with Shloke when she was reclining in the sofa and thinking about his rejection of her now apologises to him for irritating him with red roses because she found a preserved red rose in his diary. She then fell asleep curled up beside Shloke just like mothers do to protect their babies.now that u said yeah..she did looked like a mom protecting her new born..

Anajli changed herself but Astha despite all the heartbreaks and setbacks is still the same...I don't see her as a weak person but as a much stronger one. It takes loads of guts and courage to take all this in her stride and not crumble.yes misti, i believe the same, she is one brave and strong soul