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jiya

@jiya.k

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Posted: 11 years ago

#31

Dnt know why but i hv this feeling that they show shivratri just to make jodha realize that ben is vishkanya n arrangements 4 ben khurak bcoz they show widout poision she cnt stand properly,all other drama come after this and ben is there 4 another 2 weeks...ekta mata ko apni friend ko kaam bhi toh dena hai or bina kuch kiye usse social sites par famous bhi karna hai kyonki jitni der tak woh show me rahegi people gone made and react 4 her exit...

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deejagi

@deejagi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#32

Mansi, you have nailed the entire episode quite well and I have nothing more to add to it. I just hope that these things doesn't happen in todays episode.

1. After Jalal silnced Ruqaiya, she felt really bad and hurt by him snubbing her in public but Jodha was insistant on talking to him and though unintentional, he talked her, even if it was meant to degrade her and demoralize her. What will happen if by chance, ruqu had witnessed it from the distance? She will realize what they talked but she will fume much more on Jodha for her supposed to be increased closeness with Jalal. She will wait for some opportunity to drag Jodha down and that might happen by agreeing with Jalal on his intened marriage with Ben when he announces that in public on Shivaratri night when Jodha saves him from Ben' bite but fail to prove Ben as vishakanya. So to in fit of anger, Jalal might announce his marriage to BEN to console her Jodha's blame and to give her a place in his harem so that Jodha will not be able to berate her in future (that is what he may think)

2. I am hoping against hope that Jodha will not yet agin tell Jalal that she is planning to keep Shivaratri vrat for him as he is the Shehanshah and it is her duty to pray for his well being. The poor guy wanted to hear from her that she consider him as her husband and that is the main reason he is pricking her by telling, you don't even consider me as your husband...but will be devasted if she tells him otherwise.

By the way, when he told her that he has spent more time with ben than her, did he really mean that Jodha has spent less time with Ben or he has spent less time with Jodha when compared to his time with Ben??????????????

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MyExiledSoul

@MyExiledSoul

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Posted: 11 years ago

#33

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I am seeing soo many predictions now!😆 so I refrain myself from predicting another similar one 😉.

Episode was good in terms of suspense and drama but If you ask me it was a major let down considering the leads acting with stupidity and missing some simple points!. I was so damn right about Jodha that her blurting out everything to Benazir surprised me little, but Jalal was either shrewd or stupid in asking Abul Maali, "who is your assassin you planted in Agra Palace" as if he is gonna blurt out everything like Jodha Begum . When Maali and Jalal himself knows that he cannot and will not be put to death as he is Fakrunnisa's husband then why on earth he will reveal everything to Jalal? Jalal's question had me in stitches 😆 he needs little time in going bonkers from perceptive.

Now starting with the very first scene, seems like Hakim and Maan Singh are now on holidays and Jalal's confession to Hakim's questions will be shown after this week as I'm sure Hakim will not leave him alone unless and untill Jalal confesses he loves Jodha Begum. (So the aastin ka saap will be bound to act as a love guru for atleast a week or so!). But I appreciate this Hakim guy as he is the one whose words affects Jalal more than anyone else, and is surely a friend whom Jalal was in desperate need of after Abdul's disappearance. Jalal's denial was as expected! 🥱. Moving on to the next scene, this guy is highly confused then why on earth he cares about Jodha's confusion and her denial more than solving his own miseries ? A person in dilemma should first focus on clearing his own doubts rather than getting pissed of with others unawareness. It is as simple as that but again simple thins doesn't suite TRPs and daily soaps.

😕.

I will stick to my assumption that Jalal does not know of Benazir being VishKanya and he has nothing to do with her shortage of poison. However as he mentioned in DEK where Benazir was not present that he knew every move of Abul Maali since he landed in Agra, so he definitely knows Benazir went to meet him in disguise and now will wait until she attacks and then thrash her in front of everyone! He is obviously not including Jodha in his plan despite of her warnings and fears as she is quite a useless person for him when it comes to act with patience and brains! 😆 (No offence to her but this is what she is!). Now I am sure this Shivratri track will continue till weekend and if it doesn't then the symbolism of Shiv-Parvati will go in vain and will be a huge disappointment for us. I do not think Jodha will get hurt in an attempt to save Jalal, but one thing to note here is Jodha is still not aware of the VishKanya and has kind of forgotten what Hakim told her in brief, so currently even she is unaware of Benazir's poison like Jalal. If the marriage is announced then I think it will be Jalals trick to unmask Benazir for it would be a pathetic excuse to hide the feelings he has for Jodha and his lady love is now hardly jealous of Benazir(at least she pretends so!😕). He don't need to marry Benazir to overcome his fear of falling in love with Jodha for his harem is already full of ladies waiting for his single glance! He can always get drunk and land in any of his begums hojra to get over his Jodha Begum obsession 😆.

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deejagi

@deejagi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#34

Guys Jalal trusts Ben so much because she was th Khas gift given to him by his beloved Badi Ammi aka Maham Anga. How cna he not trust his BA's gift and disrespect MA????????????

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: deejagi
Guys Jalal trusts Ben so much because she was th Khas gift given to him by his beloved Badi Ammi aka Maham Anga. How cna he not trust his BA's gift and disrespect MA????????????

This Badi Ammi needs to be dethroned ... fast!!! That's why I have been suggesting that Tejwant should be hired to start building her mausoleum!

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Abhay

@history_geek

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Posted: 11 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: skanda12

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Abhay, thanks for that historical note. very interesting times ahead indeed! So this will all take Jalal into rajputana and the loyalty of the Ameris will be tested again?😲

mansi,
jalal has already a agenda to get 'fateh' on entire rajputana. The point which i am saying is that this 'bahadur' played tom n jerry game with him from starting, and always ran towards rajputana for safe refuge..

First adham defeated him. Then he ran towards rajputana. Now he again recollects his forces n raises his head again. Again he ll be supressed. 😆 . He rose many times and was always calmed down. Even he got mansabdari of around 2000, not sure exactly, from jalal, but even after that he revolted. And always ran in rajputana. This is funny and irritating. This continued for around 9 years..!!!... This person has a 'catalytic' role here.. Even without him also, jalal has rajputana in his mind but he will be a catalyst.

BTW, jalal will soon get a taste of loyalty of Ameris if timeline goes fine.

I forgot one point in my writeup. Yesterday. For the first time Jodha/CV's 'OPENLY EMPHASIZED' on the point that Jalal had his near and dear ones as those who plotted against him.

''I ll wait, for the day when he ALSO realizes this.'' 😊 ..He ll be shattered...! Knowing this truth...sad.

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deejagi

@deejagi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: skanda12

Looking at it logically, why would Jalal make a wedding announcement AFTER the failed bite on Sivaratri? If on Sivaratri he sees Jodha pushing away Ben will that make him so angry as to marry Ben? Somehow that doesn't sound logical to me.

But my hunch is that the marriage declaration will come "BEFORE' Sivaratri. he will give this marriage declaration knowing that ben cannot afford to wait that long and it will make her try to hurry her bite that Sivaratri nite itself. And therein Jodha may help Jalal.

Also from the drama point of view, if Ekta is using the symbolism of Sivaratri to show the triumph of good over evil on that holy night, why will she make the Sivaratri saving of jalal by Jodha a failure? She should capitalise on Sivaratri to show how Jodha saved Jalal on that night only then the TRP audiences will love that Sivaratri ka perfect symbolism, na?

I feel that in the next two days or so (i.e. Tuesday/Wednesday episodes) this jalal will give this marriage declaration to Ben. That will make ben desperate to bite fast. On Thursday or Friday Ekta may show it as Sivaratri when Ben will try to bite and Jodha will save Jalal on that auspicious night exactly like Parvati saved Shiva.

I most definitely don't think Ekta will use Sivaratri night to show a failure!

Mansi, I do feel that he will declare about his intentions of marrige only after Shivaratri as no one might see that Ben wsa about to bite him and he may not even realise that Jodha has been bitten by Ben intentionally. As you yourself told, the intensity of the poison is reduced, so Jodha might not show the necessary reaction (unconcious / bubbled saliva) immediately and Jalal might feel that (Jodha's act of pushing Ben) as an act of insult to his khas bandi and in that rage may declare marriage. And by the time marriage preperations were done and in the nick of the moment Jodha, might show all the indictions of being poisoned and Hakima sahibha might declare that it was due to snake bite. Only then he might realize that infact Jodha was bitten by Ben and that was the only bite mark on her entire body and deduce that Ben is teh actual Vishakanya who was intended to bite him and kill him.

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: history_geek

mansi,
jalal has already a agenda to get 'fateh' on entire rajputana. The point which i am saying is that this 'bahadur' played tom n jerry game with him from starting, and always ran towards rajputana for safe refuge..

First adham defeated him. Then he ran towards rajputana. Now he again recollects his forces n raises his head again. Again he ll be supressed. 😆 . He rose many times and was always calmed down. Even he got mansabdari of around 2000, not sure exactly, from jalal, but even after that he revolted. And always ran in rajputana. This is funny and irritating. This continued for around 9 years..!!!... This person has a 'catalytic' role here.. Even without him also, jalal has rajputana in his mind but he will be a catalyst.

BTW, jalal will soon get a taste of loyalty of Ameris if timeline goes fine.

I forgot one point in my writeup. Yesterday. For the first time Jodha/CV's 'OPENLY EMPHASIZED' on the point that Jalal had his near and dear ones as those who plotted against him.

''I ll wait, for the day when he ALSO realizes this.'' 😊 ..He ll be shattered...! Knowing this truth...sad.

Abhay, what exactly do you mean by that point I have marked in blue? In what way will the Ameris show loyalty and when exactly?

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, I do feel that he will declare about his intentions of marrige only after Shivaratri as no one might see that Ben wsa about to bite him and he may not even realise that Jodha has been bitten by Ben intentionally. As you yourself told, the intensity of the poison is reduced, so Jodha might not show the necessary reaction (unconcious / bubbled saliva) immediately and Jalal might feel that (Jodha's act of pushing Ben) as an act of insult to his khas bandi and in that rage may declare marriage. And by the time marriage preperations were done and in the nick of the moment Jodha, might show all the indictions of being poisoned and Hakima sahibha might declare that it was due to snake bite. Only then he might realize that infact Jodha was bitten by Ben and that was the only bite mark on her entire body and deduce that Ben is teh actual Vishakanya who was intended to bite him and kill him.

OMG Jaya, I don't want this ben continuing after Sivaratri. What is the point oof using the Sivaratri symbolism if the evil continues after that? It won't please the TRP audience, will it?

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deejagi

@deejagi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: skanda12

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