Love in the times of 4 Lions!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'd love to know what makes Gul Khan tick as a woman?
Cos 4 Lions seems to have a rather sterotype 15th century alpha male driven concept of love!
Love in the times of 4 Lions is...
... an agressive male lead who will physically and verbally abuse the female protagonist
...a male lead who will cherish the women in his family and treat them like porclain but will humiliate and constantly hurt the woman he is supposedly fallng in love with
...an ostensibly "strong" female protagonist who is strong about everything other than when it comes to her man
... a female lead who is made to act like an idiot around the male lead
... a female lead who puts up with all the crap that the man dishes out all in the name of love
... a female lead who bears humiliation and ridicule but "love" doesnt give her the courage to take a stand and tell the guy where to get off!
... a female "third angle" who the male lead uses to get to the female lead and "torture" her
I understand that in QH the milieu is different - its a muslim background where the makers assume a greater degree conservativeness and an inability of the woman to speak her mind, and stand up for herself. Which is a whole load of bull! I know enough strong minded Muslim women who would not take crap lying down. But it would appear that modernity for 4 Lions is only defined by the clothes that the female lead wears!
Is the 4Lions creative full of men whose emotional development is so stunted that they need to live out their repressed fantasies through the fiction they create?
Or is it that the creative team is so jaded that its easier to churn out the same crap over and over again (Man-Geet, ASR-Kushi and now Asad-Zoya) than think anew?
In either case, Gul Khan / 4 Lions put on your thinking caps and give us a female lead who can give back as good as she gets!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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👍🏼 👏 🤗

Thank you for raising this. You might be in a minority and I won't deny she creates onscreen magic with her couples, ArHi especially... But yeah! Despite all the chemistry, symbolism and layered story telling that I have come to enjoy, I'm increasingly questioning the standard characterisation of the protagonists, the baddies cover up by getting rid of the one person that is out to expose them, the constant MUs... Grrr!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A very apt observation. It is the same dish being served differently. But I guess, they have figured out that this formula works and as long as it does 4 lions will keep dishing it out to the audiences. Look at all the gushing and excuses for the male lead for all the females on the forum. I am sure al most all of them wouldn't be so understanding for the psyche of man like Asad or the other alpha-males in their own lives.

It's fine if you want to show an alpha-male but at least give the female lead some spine to stand upto him.

BTW I am currently okay with the way Zoya is behaving. It is kind of natural but then they shouldn't take it too far. Their should be a point when Zoya should say 'enough' and that point should be a decent point and not absurdly stretched.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I completely agree. In fact, when I was thinking about it, it seems that her male leads seem to be getting progressively worse. I mean, Maan was the nicest. He actually never intentionally hurt her. He always stood up for her right from the beginning. Even when he was trying to push her away, he didn't manhandle or anything. He just ignored which isn't half as bad as what Arnav or Asad was/is doing. The only time he got really angry was when he found out she was preggers and when she accuses him of being with his brother, both of which I think he deserved to be angry. Arnav manhandled and hurt Khushi several times but you could always see that he was hurt too and was very much affected by her tears. Asad never seems to regret or get affected by her tears until he gets proof that he was wrong. Yea, he protects her and goes crazy when she is hurt but other than that, we never see a sign of his love. Its usually very brief and fleeting.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'm liking this topic and all of the above post are coming straight from my heart too.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes, I totally agree with u. Da show is jst 4mnths old & they alrdy butchered da lead character. In case of Arnav-khushi Arnav was a borderline negative character BUT Asad is NOT a negative character. He infact respects women. How can a man who respects women behave like dat with a woman who is a guest in deir house??😲 And abt Zoya, she is a strong woman, stronger dan Khushi coz she is highly educated. How can she remain mum & still love him?? To top on dat dere is no regret in Asad's eyes. As of now Asad cant be redeemed. Educated viewers like us cant watch crap like dis. Also 4lions has become very repetitive, dey r using da same formula over & over again. Time 4 change in ideas.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i dont think u shd take a fiction as a reality show...or a real thing..
its a fiction..
as it hv many +ve things..it needs things which are not +ve too...
Edited by --Kriti-- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i completely agree with you and i'm glad you posted it!

the feminist inside me just cant stand it when a girl who can stand up for herself turns into a crying mess wen her "love" says something to her!

Zoya who knows how to answer everyone why cant she say something witty to Asad??

i really miss the ZOYA FAROOQUI of the initial days!
the smiling zoya laughing zoya witty zoya smart zoya always- making-every1-laugh-with-her-shayari zoya

now all we see is crying Zoya sulking zoya jealous zoya!

i want the feisty Zoya back!

i really want ayaan to step in between cuz i believe only he can bring that Zoya farooqui special mega watt million dollar dimpled smile back!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Zoya was initially shown a girl of strrong belief and I guess this jealousy track has spoiled her character, though I am enjoying the track but still it is ruining Zoe's character, she is shown stupid and immature but I guess once this track is over she will be back to herself the strong dignified and free women who can take care of herself
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Posted: 12 years ago
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can I come over and give you a bone crushing hug? 'cause you've written what's been going on in my head since a few weeks! 😆
I hate how Asad treats Zoya! people need to see the difference b/w a person getting angry and manhandling to get rid of ones temper, people need to stop justifying his actions! Zoya's actions push Asad off the edge, agreed but that heck doesn't give him the right to treat her so badly..and moreover 4lions suck at redemption tracks -_- that just adds to it.. and the same happened with AK! I wanted Arnav to be sorry for every action, every shit he put Khushi through but that never happened! but well Khushi did Arnav a piece of her mind but alas Zoya hasn't, even after the Akram fiasco her lecture to Asad lacked spine and it still angers me so much! ;| I want Zoya to stand up for herself! Like the girl she's supposed to be, it kills to watch her like a love sick puppy! grrr..
woops! did I write too much? idk if that above^ makes sense but I just wanted to get that out of my chest 😆 and thank you for this post (:

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