Why Gulaal is disappointed!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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When Kesar confesses his feeling in the rain, Gulaal cries in disappointment and slaps him. She does not cry in joy of finding out that Kesar loves her, but because the purpose of her life is lost.

Going back in the story, Kesar is Vasants beloved little brother and Gulaal also possibly treats him as her younger brother. She likes him because Vasant loves him. Kesar was so fond of her from day one that he also wanted to marry her when Vasant was getting married.
Because of this closeness with him, she was very confident that Kesar would do what she tells him. Even after the deeyar-vatoo Gulaal took charge of him and taught him all the nice things and made him apologize to Talli for something he did. She even gave him a bath. She brought him up as Vasant would have looked after him. It was more of a motherly treatment and in the same context she decided that she will bind him in marriage with Talli and she was very sure that it will happen her way.

When Kesar was sent to the boarding school, he missed Gulaal and in his mind he thought her as his wife, wrote the letters but did not post it to her out of the anger that Gulaal sent him away.

When Kesar returned, Gulaal put Talli forward as her selection for Kesar, Kesar interacted with her but as a friend. This interaction was mis-read by everyone including Talli. In between Kesar saw the woman in Gulaal and got attracted to her beauty.
He indicated to her by giving compliments and the special gift (chunari) Gulaal never seemed to be pleased but she seems to be more shaken (not stirred!!)

She pushed Talli harder to get Kesar's attention. She did not want Talli to find out that Kesar is falling for her. In her mind she raised him as his own son/brother. Thats the reason she does not answer anyone why she does not agree on this deeyar-vatoo in the true context and not accept Kesar as her husband. She simply says it means nothing but why? she never spat it out. She even slapped Kesar in front of the whole family thinking that she has a right slap him as his younger brother or son. In front of MotaBha she takes responsibility to set Kesar right. Thats why when he comes home drunk she is shaken and upset because of what the family will say that how she brought him up.
Even when she drowned saving Talli and Kesar was angry, not talking to her, she said clearly that 'mera pyaar tere liye kam nahin hoga' it was not a lovers wala pyaar.

Lately she went in for a Varat as per the customs which gave Kesar some surety of his relationship with her. She was not comfortable doing it. She did it under pressure from PaanBa.

For the same reason she behaved so adamantly and even started begging Kesar to marry Talli. She took the opportunity to release Kesar of this deeyar-vatoo, thinking if that is stopping Kesar to marry Talli. She took it to the extent of everyone dislike, ending up in Panchayat and then not agreeing to Panchayaat decision. But then consequences of not following Panchayaat decision put her in place.
She still felt bad for Talli but then she could not do much.

Now when Kesar tells her that it is love what attracts him and he loves her. Gulaal cannot believe this, her whole world goes down, the relationship she thought she had with him was finished in a moment and Kesar looks at him as a lover or another woman and not as what she thinks herself to be his... mother??

She does not want to be called Kesar wife at any cost. She is beyond that. That she still wants Kesar to marry Talli. Now is the time Talli will read or give her the letters, which will enlighten Gulaal that Kesar always loved her as his partner. This should help Gulaal understand that what Kesar is going through.
But still in her mind, its like incest. Kesar is a kid and she wanted him to stay that way.





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Posted: 14 years ago
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We use so many tags to name Gulaal-Kesar when there is actually NONE!

She slapped him like a mother...sister...etc etc. Does she say that anywhere? NO! I don't understand why we have to label their relationship when the whole point of their relationship is that there is NO NAME! That is why when Kesar asked 'What is the relationship between me and Gulaal?', no-one could answer because there is NO answer yet we have to put label them. Why?? What's the need?

Not every relationship can have a name. I just feel that everytime we use a tag name, we just belittle the unique relationship they share.

She is distraught because she has seen him as a child, not because she saw him as a son or brother or whatever you wish to call it. She's upset because she has seen him as KESUDA!! If she really saw him as her son or brother, she wouldn't have married him no matter how noble her thoughts were.

Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

We use so many tags to name Gulaal-Kesar when there is actually NONE!


She slapped him like a mother...sister...etc etc. Does she say that anywhere? NO! I don't understand why we have to label their relationship when the whole point of their relationship is that there is NO NAME! That is why when Kesar asked 'What is the relationship between me and Gulaal?', no-one could answer because there is NO answer yet we have to put label them. Why?? What's the need?

Not every relationship can have a name. I just feel that everytime we use a tag name, we just belittle the unique relationship they share.

She is distraught because she has seen him as a child, not because she saw him as a son or brother or whatever you wish to call it. She's upset because she has seen him as KESUDA!! If she really saw him as her son or brother, she wouldn't have married him no matter how noble her thoughts were.

The whole show is about deeyar vatoo, where a widow is married to the brother of the deceased. Its a husband and wife relationship.
After Kesar returns, woh tera pati hai, aur woh teri patni echoes around in the family.
Now he stops the marriage at the last phera stating that he cannot be faithful only to Talli because Gulall uski patni hai.

Panchayaat decides that they should stay in this deeyar-vatoo and hence husband and wife.
The relationship cut out as per the custom is husband and wife, it has a definite name.

When she agreed to go for deeyar-vatoo she assumed that Kesar would do it for her sake and never had the relationship ending this way in her mind. But as she started raising him, her feeling for him changed with time. Seeing someone as a child is different than treating someone as one own child.

I just wrote what I followed in the show and why Gulaal not comfortable. When he asks the question, he is asking that all the elders agreed to when the deeyar-vatoo took place, if that was not a husband and wife relation than what was it? He explains that in the panchayat again. She started off on her initiative and plan and pursued it but Kesar was always on a different track from the beginning.
Cheers.
PS. Relationship with no name is not a relationship. Its just a fling.

Edited by SlingShooter - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I feel Gulaal slapped him out of helplessness. She just out pour her frustration of being guilty of pushing Kasar to this point. She was realizing that kesar has soft corner for her but that soft corner is Love, she just couldn't comprehend that. Gulaal slapped him but in true sense she slapped at her own decision. She now must have realized that it's she who has turned a child into a man with just one twist of tale. what seed she sowed has now flourished into a big tree. She never nourished that seed of love but LOVE can blooms even in the most arid condition. She realized that it was Kesar's innocent and straight forward heart that kept watering that seed. And Keser himself never realized that till this day when the love has already grown high and deep rooted. Gulaal was not angry at Kesar but at this realisation of Love.
Edited by whitepearl - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

We use so many tags to name Gulaal-Kesar when there is actually NONE!


She slapped him like a mother...sister...etc etc. Does she say that anywhere? NO! I don't understand why we have to label their relationship when the whole point of their relationship is that there is NO NAME! That is why when Kesar asked 'What is the relationship between me and Gulaal?', no-one could answer because there is NO answer yet we have to put label them. Why?? What's the need?

Not every relationship can have a name. I just feel that everytime we use a tag name, we just belittle the unique relationship they share.

She is distraught because she has seen him as a child, not because she saw him as a son or brother or whatever you wish to call it. She's upset because she has seen him as KESUDA!! If she really saw him as her son or brother, she wouldn't have married him no matter how noble her thoughts were.

Completely agree with you reemzzz...thats what i dont understand either.. why we have to give the name to their relationship espiclly bro or son!! this is not good and appropriate.. we have seen what happen in their life...their relationship was just a friendship.. and i totally understand and agree with reemz that if gulaal considered him son or bro, she would never have done deervatooo... ITS VERY CLEAR THAT THEY NEVER SHARE ANY SIBLING RELATIONSHIP NOR MOTHER SON!!! it was always FRIENSHIP... and now they will share a new and beautiful relationhsip of husband and wife...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Gulaal did deyarvattu with the Kesar considering that they had special relationship of trust and friendship. She took care of him in sense of her husband's brother but not in sense of her brother or son.

She was in relation of husband & wife, Its just that it did not happened in reality.

Kesar from very beginning was fond of Gulaal and She became her favourite no one even vasant could not match to her. This fondness grew in to love for Kesar but he was not aware until he was pushed to get married to Talli. He felt he is loosing something very special if he get married to Talli.

Panchayat decision in favour of Kesar saves this relationship between GK.

Gulaal has not seen him as her husband yet, but after confession she has changed bit. She could not handle his feelings towards her and slaps out of anger or frustration. She did not handle the situation with maturity and calmness. Her ground beneath is shaking so hard and she is finding hard to stand up straight head held high now.

She is too be blamed for this situation she is in now. Sooner she starts feels how kesar went through all this time bettter it will for husband and wife.

Probably, she will have sympathy for him first, then love later on. Transition of her feelings towards Kesar will be slow but sure.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

We use so many tags to name Gulaal-Kesar when there is actually NONE!


She slapped him like a mother...sister...etc etc. Does she say that anywhere? NO! I don't understand why we have to label their relationship when the whole point of their relationship is that there is NO NAME! That is why when Kesar asked 'What is the relationship between me and Gulaal?', no-one could answer because there is NO answer yet we have to put label them. Why?? What's the need?

Not every relationship can have a name. I just feel that everytime we use a tag name, we just belittle the unique relationship they share.

She is distraught because she has seen him as a child, not because she saw him as a son or brother or whatever you wish to call it. She's upset because she has seen him as KESUDA!! If she really saw him as her son or brother, she wouldn't have married him no matter how noble her thoughts were.



I agree with you...and since I've been on the other side of this debate before, let me add my thoughts in from this side having now watched this relationship properly😆.

Gulaal definitely does not see him as a mother or sister...yes the fact that she's seen him as a child is at the root of everything...before anything, she has immense affection and love for him...whether by transference through Vasant or for whatever reason...but it began there...

The problem right now is that Gulaal is stuck in her past...Kesar has grown up...but she is unwilling to accept that...to her, he's still a "nasamajh" impulsive kid in many ways...

As you pointed out, she is distraught cuz this is HER Kesuda as she sees it...a person with whom she's had a unique bond since his childhood...she's taken care of him, fought with him, fought FOR him...they never needed labels...but now there is a label in front of her that she chose to ignore for years...the label of husband-wife...on top of that Kesar has added the label of love to now unnerve her further.

Gulaal's problem has a lot to do with her refusal to view Kesar as a grown-up now...again it's connected to her past...she's in a sense trapped in that past...but ultimately she will realize that these feelings have evolved...What her and Kesar share was never simple enough to slot into any easy category...even now when Kesar realizes it's love...it's still not love of a typical kind.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

We use so many tags to name Gulaal-Kesar when there is actually NONE!


She slapped him like a mother...sister...etc etc. Does she say that anywhere? NO! I don't understand why we have to label their relationship when the whole point of their relationship is that there is NO NAME! That is why when Kesar asked 'What is the relationship between me and Gulaal?', no-one could answer because there is NO answer yet we have to put label them. Why?? What's the need?

Not every relationship can have a name. I just feel that everytime we use a tag name, we just belittle the unique relationship they share.

She is distraught because she has seen him as a child, not because she saw him as a son or brother or whatever you wish to call it. She's upset because she has seen him as KESUDA!! If she really saw him as her son or brother, she wouldn't have married him no matter how noble her thoughts were.


I can see Kesar singing 'iss pyar ko mein kya naam doon' and Talli going 'rabba mere rabba' 🤣
Sorry about being silly it's just that I'm really happy today because finally 'fit hit the shan' in Gulaal.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

We use so many tags to name Gulaal-Kesar when there is actually NONE!


She slapped him like a mother...sister...etc etc. Does she say that anywhere? NO! I don't understand why we have to label their relationship when the whole point of their relationship is that there is NO NAME! That is why when Kesar asked 'What is the relationship between me and Gulaal?', no-one could answer because there is NO answer yet we have to put label them. Why?? What's the need?

Not every relationship can have a name. I just feel that everytime we use a tag name, we just belittle the unique relationship they share.

She is distraught because she has seen him as a child, not because she saw him as a son or brother or whatever you wish to call it. She's upset because she has seen him as KESUDA!! If she really saw him as her son or brother, she wouldn't have married him no matter how noble her thoughts were.

I completely agree she never took him as son or brother. It is a relation which had no name.
Even when Kesar was in school, she was leading a married woman life. So I never think she will ever take it as incest or something. The reason why she gave so many slaps is coz it was the least thing which she could have ever expected. It was a big blow to her. She was like how can you love me ? It was so natural that she gave so many slaps..that was so apt for the situation she was facing. It was brilliantly portrayed by Mansi. if she had given only one slap it would have turned out to be harsh but the way they treated gulaal's reaction was just perfect.
Edited by nneeiill - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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oh...please no brother or son relationship...what I fail to understand is why does 1 feel the need to tag a friendship ubder another name
Friendship is not a crime...it may not have a tag based stability...but a heartfelt connection built upon trust and platonic love
Ii may turn into love...but only bcoz it has gone through the test of being comfertable with each other
you can never love a person w/out being his/her best friend...
To Kesar Gulal has been friend first...and has always been friend first then his wife...and now he finally realizes...his love
Gulal too never viewed Kesar anything less than friend she cared for him like 1 will care for her friend...teach him good...save him from MB's scolding...worry about him...
thats why she allowed him to call her Gual not bhabhi nver maa nor anythin else

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