Sacrificing one's love for what??

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Posted: 14 years ago
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This is a beautiful thought on the consequences of sacrificing one's love for another's happiness. I have always felt it deeply, and thought I would share it now, as the current conflict that's going on in Dev's mind is related to this.

Brief description for those who are not aware: The 3 characters in the story are Francisco D'Anconia, John Galt and Dagny Taggart. Dagny and Francisco were lovers many years back, but now John and Dagny love each other, though not declared openly yet. Here, John shows very clearly that he would not sacrifice his love for Francisco, even though they are lifelong friends, and he knows that Francisco's first love is Dagny. This passage is on Dagny's realization that John will not sacrifice her.

"she had seen, with the sudden, immediate vividness of sensory perception, an exact picture of what the code of self-sacrifice would have meant, if enacted by the three of them. Galt, giving up the woman he wanted, for the sake of his friend, faking his greatest feeling out of existence and himself out of her life, no matter what the cost to him and to her, then dragging the rest of his years through the waste of the unreached and unfulfilled - she, turning for consolation to a second choice, faking a love she did not feel, being willing to fake, since her will to self-decite was the essential required for Galt's self-sacrifice, then living out her years in hopeless longing, accepting, as relief for an unhealing wound, some momments of weary affection, plus the tenet that love is futile and happiness is not to be found on earth - Francisco, struggling in the elusive fog of a counterfeit reality, his life a fraud staged by the two who were dearest to him and most trusted, struggling to grasp what was missing from his happiness, struggling down the brittle scaffold of a lie over the abyss of the discovery that he was not the man she loved, but only a resented substitute, half-charity-patient, half-crutch, his perceptiveness becoming his danger and only his surrender to lethargic stupidity protecting the shoddy structure of his joy, struggling an dgoving up and settling into the dreary routine of the conviction that fulfillment is impossible....-the three of them, who had had all the gifts of existence spread out before them, ending up, as embittered hulks, who cry in despair that life is frustration...."

Okay, this is the extreme, but also possible....your comments?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very interesting Bholabear but I feel Radhika is not interesting in faking or accepting any one else then KK and she will fight back and try to get him back however reluctant he may be and try to hide his feelings but he has already shown his feelings to her. No amount of camouflaging his feelings or hiding it will effect Radhika and he with the help of Kanha get him back however difficult it may be.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice ideas and thoughts dear.....
chalhov yaar I totally agree with you....that Radh will never accept any one as her husband she will fight for her right she only want Dev she is waiting for her hubby not one or two years....she is waiting 12 years..........
so she know that Dev loves her and she will understand what is happening...If Dev give up and how much he try heard to go away from Radh she will not accept Rohen as her KK and she will pray for Kanha to solve the problem..and also Kanha will never let this injustice to happen to Radh...and
I only thinking how Rohen will react after Dev married to Rad.......
Edited by anu17 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks bholabear for an interesting passage –and it raises an age old question… Does one have to choose between true love and nobility of sacrifice?....and is that really possible ? Are we not all selfish to some extent?..

It is true that, if you love someone, that person's happiness becomes of utmost importance—and so may be there are people who will "set their love free"---and if it comes back, then it is true love----

Connection to CB:--

Dev and Rohan have a strong bond of friendship and so Dev will sacrifice his wants for Rohan….

And Dev loves Radhika and feels Rohan is a better prospect for her and so will make another sacrifice for her…..

But if Dev knew that Radhika loved him, would he have made that sacrifice? Moreover, if he finds out that he and Radhika were bound by sacred vows—what would he choose?..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: radhika5

Thanks bholabear for an interesting passage 'and it raises an age old question' Does one have to choose between true love and nobility of sacrifice?....and is that really possible ? Are we not all selfish to some extent?..

It is true that, if you love someone, that person's happiness becomes of utmost importance'and so may be there are people who will "set their love free"---and if it comes back, then it is true love----

Connection to CB:--

Dev and Rohan have a strong bond of friendship and so Dev will sacrifice his wants for Rohan'.

And Dev loves Radhika and feels Rohan is a better prospect for her and so will make another sacrifice for her'..

But if Dev knew that Radhika loved him, would he have made that sacrifice? Moreover, if he finds out that he and Radhika were bound by sacred vows'what would he choose?..


in a article I sw that Radh will tell all the truth to Dev but Dev ignore her and try his best to away from her but Radh thinks one day he will come back to her and she is waiting for that day only...........
and I now have a feeling dear after Dev get to know the truth from Radh he will never accept any one and will not marry any one but only Radh one day.................
only question is how Rohen will react after Radh's and Dev's marriage..........
Edited by anu17 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: radhika5

Thanks bholabear for an interesting passage 'and it raises an age old question' Does one have to choose between true love and nobility of sacrifice?....and is that really possible ? Are we not all selfish to some extent?..

It is true that, if you love someone, that person's happiness becomes of utmost importance'and so may be there are people who will "set their love free"---and if it comes back, then it is true love----

Connection to CB:--

Dev and Rohan have a strong bond of friendship and so Dev will sacrifice his wants for Rohan'.

And Dev loves Radhika and feels Rohan is a better prospect for her and so will make another sacrifice for her'..

But if Dev knew that Radhika loved him, would he have made that sacrifice? Moreover, if he finds out that he and Radhika were bound by sacred vows'what would he choose?..

It is true that, if you love someone, that person's happiness becomes of utmost importance....What will Dev do when he will come to know that Radhika's happiness is with him not with Rohan?..will he still sacrifice his love for Rohan? knowing that no one will be happy.. and How can he set free Radhika when he is her love, life and everything?
Radhika will surely choose Dev no one else..for her seven vows are more imp.she rem what Pandit ji had told her..she was hardly 10 years tht time...its impossible for her to accept Rohan as her life partner..cos for her Dev is her husband and will remain forever..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: chalhov

Very interesting Bholabear but I feel Radhika is not interesting in faking or accepting any one else then KK and she will fight back and try to get him back however reluctant he may be and try to hide his feelings but he has already shown his feelings to her. No amount of camouflaging his feelings or hiding it will effect Radhika and he with the help of Kanha get him back however difficult it may be.



i think u r right zis time dont knw but i hve a strong feeling zis time Radhika will fight for her love but at z same time she'll make DEV understand also............am sure they gona fight for their love
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Here views are right about , what a waste of three lives in the name of sacrifice....But in Indian society this is something age old thing, .yes reasons are different....In real life too you will find , yes , few people going through this sacrificial way for their loved ones.....May be it is because of not being selfish and thinking about your dear-ones happiness or better future in mind or sometimes it comes with responsibility.....In fact seen people sacrificing with out any pressure....Here Dev and Radhika,s characters are already known , not someone new and with Kanha ,s existance in their life ....Got them married in childhood , so their union is inevitable in the end without anyone of them going to get married to another person.... Here again Dev is thinking about Radhika,s future, Rohan who is changing to be a better person and responsible for Radhika, Radhika,s status as CB of RP family, he does not know that if Radhika loves her , if he knows even then again Radhika,s better future will be his priority as he has the status of a glorified servant.....Yes then the ball is in Radhika,s court what she decides on her own ....In previous one also i did not find anything odd about Radhika sacrificing for Vishakha , even if Vishakha would have been her real sister she would have done the same thing....For some loved ones happiness comes first before their own , depends on the circumstances ....Yes now in this materialistic world values are changing .....Now the story is moving with its pace with twists involved.....Here Radhika will follow Dev because of him being her husband , and if she was not married to him ,then again i would have liked Radhika to follow him because of her love and not giving in to his sacrificing thing.....Here Radhika is self confident,and quite able to take the decisions
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with all of you. I'v a strong feeling that Radhika is not going to look back. she'l follow Dev even though he'l not reciprocate initially.But,her devotion & belief for kanha will make Dev come back to her. Right now Dev feels that Radhika will be happy with Rohan since she would become the CB & RPtian in future,but when he'l come to know that she's not interested in all this,but only wants her KK,then I'm he;l change his decision.what's the point in sacrificing when noone can be happy?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: set_raj

It is true that, if you love someone, that person's happiness becomes of utmost importance....What will Dev do when he will come to know that Radhika's happiness is with him not with Rohan?..will he still sacrifice his love for Rohan? knowing that no one will be happy.. and How can he set free Radhika when he is her love, life and everything?

Radhika will surely choose Dev no one else..for her seven vows are more imp.she rem what Pandit ji had told her..she was hardly 10 years that time...its impossible for her to accept Rohan as her life partner..cos for her Dev is her husband and will remain forever..



So then the ultimate sacrifice will be made by Rohan (in case he is truly in love with Radhika)---

Sometimes circumstances force you to "sacrifice"--but does that ever truly happen? It becomes a compromise that one makes--trying to accept the inevitable. But in the process--the three lives, entwined in this triangle of love, will forever change...

Do you ever forget your true love?? And can any sacrifice be worth losing your true love?--

I hope the CVs can bring out these complexities and the dilemma--.They have very talented actors..Avinash, Rubina and Saurav are all excellent..Hope we can see some great screenplay...
Edited by radhika5 - 14 years ago

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