Girl child, Joint family and Social Conditioning

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Posted: 14 years ago
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[ Someone mentioned that the next ME episode is about a neglected girl child and after watching few episodes of ME I pondered on some points they repeated. Please do join the discussion and give your input. ]

I have noticed that in most ME episodes, it's the girl child shown as drama queen, pampered, picking up fights etc. Boys are mostly shown indifferent. That's because most ME moms expect the girl to help in the kitchen and boys get to enjoy life. Remember that Mumbai mom was after Nainital girl's case while the boy enjoyed his freedom, same with Nainital mom who was after Mumbai girl's clothes while she praised the boy. These stereotypes are so ingrained in some people and they see nothing wrong with it. If it's girl then send her to kitchen. Which century do they all live in? Boys or girls, children should help around the house. I don't support kids doing heavy chores like cooking and cleaning but keeping their rooms, clothes and things tidy is something all children should do, irrespective of boy or girl.

Second, when one speaks of joint family system, it's always about man's parents. What happens to a lady's parents? Nobody cares. The social conditioning that it's a man's job to take care of entire family is still prevalent so his parents get preferential treatment. In reality, it's the bahu who cooks, cleans and takes care of them and still the man gets all the credit for taking care of his parents. If parents have only daughters then where should they go? By the same joint family logic, isn't it a girl's responsibility to look after them? And if a girl's family lives with them then in many cases, her husband gets taunted by his side of the family for being henpecked.

I despise the social conditioning ingrained in our culture and in some people's mind who give primitive excuses to support it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Just to elaborate a point in context to Nainital and Mumbai moms' attitude: When boys help in household chores, they get praised because they are doing something that's not expected of them whereas when girls do the same thing, it's overlooked because it's what she is expected to do.
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Great post Maya! Will comment later :)
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Great post Maya...Perfect analysis....👏 even I hold the same views as you. Will elaborately comment later..... Wont be as good as you though...😊
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👏 excellent post Maya. very well analysed also.
sadly its all down to the indian system of giving the male too much of authority. I believe the female of the house is the spine of the house and if she collapses then the entire house routine collapses with her.
Reason: All characters revolve around her be it kids or husband. Then why give all the attention and accolades only to the man just bec hes the breadwinner. As regards the parents of the lady they have been totally sidelined and not even considered part of the family whereas the man's parents are always included irrespective of the fact whether they stay with their son or not.
A son's duties towards his parents are always spoken about and the wife is expected to support him but what happens to the daughter's duties towards her parents.
Daughters infact care a lot abt their parents but they have to do it in silence or without the support of the husband. Its truly said that a daughter is a daughter all your life. So imagine the role of the lady then. She has to be a perfect mother, a perfect wife, a perfect daughter inlaw, and finally she tries to be the perfect daughter and a perfect career woman. In the whole bargain she loses her own individuality which is so sad. But it will take a long long time for the system to change and give the woman more importance. 😭
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Our social system has established some unwritten rules that most of the families follow considering it as a social commitment. These rules have impacted people in such a manner that they wont come of this shell in years to come.

As u must have seen in Zehra-Antima ME, sujit refused to do the utensils citing that, in his culture this work is alloted to ladies. I have personally seen such families where division of labor in house is based on gender. I am talking about educated families too.

I have also seen in some families where male members are given priority for meals. They are served first and later ladies in the house eat.

I am of the opinion that, anything that encourages gender inequality in the house should not be exercised. I have experienced such behaviour from people in my extended family and yes it was damn hurting... thankfully my family doesnt allow all this.

If anyone really wants to bring massive change in the society, the changes should be applied in own home first. Showing no difference between a boy and a girl at home in any case, will surely help. Parents should also treat each other equally to set an example before children. Ultimately, its parents that children look up to.

It would take a good amount of time to reach at a stage where gender equality will be attained in its true sense...Atleast in India, Sad but true..😭
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I agree with sbanik that it will take years to completely bring a change in the thinking of such families as mentioned above

That there is gender inequality in our country is a known fact.......those of us who do not face it are in the minority.

There are dedicated persons who are working selflessly trying to bring about changes, however this is so ingrained in our psyche that we can see for ourselves that educated people who enjoy the modern comforts are still following old age beliefs.

Television is a powerful medium...........it has the resources to show viewers how to bring these changes about or at least how one can try. Instead of showing families who still follow these beliefs it would be better if they picked families who have not only changed but are open to changes...........

No one expects miracles but showing families with problems, issues mentioned by the topic starter, children being ill-treated, gender inequality is not teaching anyone anything nor is it doing the families involved any good. It is just a confirmation to the people who support it.

I agree that parents play a great part in teaching the children about these issues but if the parents themselves are the problem then we are really back to square one.

I sincerely hope that this channel takes this show and uses it wisely which they have not so far in most cases. If they can do that it will undoubtedly be a path breaking reality show.
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An incident which shocked me last year: A Doctor couple was asked to give away their girl child when her in-laws found out the gender at 5th month. In India even though gender detection is banned, it's still easy to find the gender of the fetus. These two are Doctors so easier for them. The girl really got angry when her husband supported his parents. She tried to reason with them but nothing worked. They only wanted a boy child and this coming from educated, well-to-do people. Finally, the girl walked out with her girl child and now I hear that her husband is trying to get back with her and accept his child too. This girl is my cousin's friend. Hope better sense prevails otherwise all this doctorgiri is utter waste in his case.

The main reason for this discrimination is our joint family system where boy's parents get preference over girl's. Girls are considered paraaya dhan and someone who will go to another family and take care of her husband's parents. Even today our daily soaps churn out the same joint family system where the girl is expected to be a good bahu and is busy 24/7 taking care of entire family and forgetting her own life. TV soaps are regressive and outdated. Though we hail parenting as the most selfless act still the underlying factor is that children are expected to look after the parents in old age and often in India, it's about boy's parents. Who would prefer a girl child when it's the boy who will bring home the moolah and will look after them? Pathetic thinking but really can't blame the mentality.
Though things have changed a lot with both boys and girls getting equal treatment at home and general perception changing but the attitude of each Maa in this show where they expected the girl to immediately enter the kitchen whereas the boys left alone, amazed me hence the post.

For eg: Sudesh Berry's son was pampered but all he was expected to do was get up on time whereas Apara's daughter has a routine, drives and takes care of things outside still she was expected to cook a full course Gujarati meal to "prepare" herself for her future family.
Everyone should know basic things to survive but what's with the discrimination of preparing girls for their future home. We keep changing with time and I believe that one doesn't really need a lot of preparation to face the future. It comes from a little discipline in life.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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indeed so pathetic. ask the mother who is in acute labor pain if she is thinking abt a boy or a girl child....or more so ask her if she feels less pain while having a girl and more for a boy.
Start at the birth system, taking care of a baby, grooming, schooling, further education etc is all done equally. then how can suddenly things change once they r married. have the parents of the girl loved her less or spent lesser time and money on her than the boy child? in what way is the male superior? is it looks, structure, intelligence or anything else?
When people talk that nowadays things have changed and males and females have become equals. have they really become equals? What does equality mean? Does it mean man and woman earning and contributing equal salaries? but even when the woman earns she still gives birth to babies and grooms them while paying equal attention to the housework, husbands requirements and inlaws requirements. then how have they become equal?
Equality will only be established when the man and woman partake of the home responsibilities together and the man understands the womans requirements and gives equal respect to her parents as he expects from her towards his folks.
Of course there r a lot of men believing in this now and supporting their wives and im sure lot more will change. but the ultimate responsibility of making the man understand is all down to the woman bec it is she who can spoil his habits or make him see sense.
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Originally posted by: TheDilettante

[ Someone mentioned that the next ME episode is about a neglected girl child and after watching few episodes of ME I pondered on some points they repeated. Please do join the discussion and give your input. ]

I have noticed that in most ME episodes, it's the girl child shown as drama queen, pampered, picking up fights etc. Boys are mostly shown indifferent. That's because most ME moms expect the girl to help in the kitchen and boys get to enjoy life. Remember that Mumbai mom was after Nainital girl's case while the boy enjoyed his freedom, same with Nainital mom who was after Mumbai girl's clothes while she praised the boy. These stereotypes are so ingrained in some people and they see nothing wrong with it. If it's girl then send her to kitchen. Which century do they all live in? Boys or girls, children should help around the house. I don't support kids doing heavy chores like cooking and cleaning but keeping their rooms, clothes and things tidy is something all children should do, irrespective of boy or girl.

Second, when one speaks of joint family system, it's always about man's parents. What happens to a lady's parents? Nobody cares. The social conditioning that it's a man's job to take care of entire family is still prevalent so his parents get preferential treatment. In reality, it's the bahu who cooks, cleans and takes care of them and still the man gets all the credit for taking care of his parents. If parents have only daughters then where should they go? By the same joint family logic, isn't it a girl's responsibility to look after them? And if a girl's family lives with them then in many cases, her husband gets taunted by his side of the family for being henpecked.

I despise the social conditioning ingrained in our culture and in some people's mind who give primitive excuses to support it.



As usual Maya, I love your post....and if there was a "super like" button would have pressed it !!........Keep posting...coz people need to hear relevant and mature views ...👏

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