Morally Evil - Pleasure gained by inflicting pain?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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There are two folds to this topic
A) Pleasure gained on someone else's misfortune:
Example -
1. Mr. X somehow manages to cut through the queue, upon reaching the counter discovers, his wallet has been picked😲😆. Everyone who were waiting in the queue have a good laugh😉😆 and informs security gaurd of Mr. X's misconduct. Next time he gotta inform the gaurd and start at the end of queue.😛
2. Mrs. B cuts lanes dangerously and manges to be the first on the intersection to turn left, ignoring honks, where other folks are waiting since 30 minutes during peak hours. Once light is green, unfortunately Mrs B mets with an wreck. Serves her right, aye?!!😉
Aboves cases people who have a good LOL on Mr. X and Mrs B are morally Evil? Mistake was done but there can be a reason for it...not such a big price to pay.... what say.
B) Pleasure attained inflicting pain.
This is simply - no fault of the Mr. Y but Mr. Z enjoys to inflicting pain to Mr. Y verbal/physical or whatever... bass Mr. Z enjoys to press it hard on Mr. Y. Majja masti bhi koi chiizz hoti hai aakhir kaar... Remember being a bully?
Mr. Z is evil morally or a saddist or both or rapist mentality, throw him out of civilized society... OR he is fine..whatever makes him happy Mr. Y should step up...his weakness is his problem...mental problem or any other escapism.... reasoning for him?
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*Woh Ajnabee* thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Why do you ask? Any plans to become morally evil? Is that the new trend these days?😆

Kiddin', of course ... I'll get to back to this tomorrow.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Why do you ask? Any plans to become morally evil? Is that the new trend these days?😆

Kiddin', of course ... I'll get to back to this tomorrow.

😆😆 Nah, am good only at making harsh points 😉, not planning to adapt this one😆😆😆 j/ks .. nothing in particular...if it is generally I add it up, upfront! Sure!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: raj5000

Aboves cases people who have a good LOL on Mr. X and Mrs B are morally Evil?
I wouldn't call it being morally evil 😆Serves them right but its human nature to Lol on other's misfortune, because we know of that was us, people would not hesitate to LOL on us.
Mr. Z is evil morally or a saddist or both or rapist mentality, throw him out of civilized society... OR he is fine..whatever makes him happy Mr. Y should step up...his weakness is his problem...mental problem or any other escapism.... reasoning for him?
Z is just a big fat bully - nothing to do with throwing him out of society - just an evil git who likes to inflict pain on others - yes saddist or i guess u can say rapist mentality then - power etc - not mr y's fault - we are all different.

Ages ago - as in years - similar thing came up in my studies. I am sure you might have heard of it seeing as it was a bit of American research (my whole psychology textbook was american) but see
The Prison Study ^^^
and Milgram's shock experiment - Similar sadistic findings etc
Shocking experiements - yes unethical but revealed sadistc nature of human beings even though it was to do with conformity and Obedience to authority - i miss psychology😳
Aim of Milgram: To find out whether ordinary Americans would obey to an unjust order from a member of authority to inflict pain on another person. Milgram wanted to discover what factors in a situation led to people to obey. V. Interesting - Link to show what they did...😳
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:ITMvA1XUDeEJ:www.aklown.co.uk/USERIMAGES/APFCC%2520-%2520obedience%2520-%2520milgram.doc+APFCC+MILGRAM+SHOCK&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk
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Posted: 16 years ago
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What really is the true nature of evil, is it always about causing pain, or is it more about the abuse of power. What is pain, is it defined by sufferer or inflicter? What is pleasure, can one truly get pleasure from pain? There are way too many folds to this topic really.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: anon

Ages ago - as in years - similar thing came up in my studies. I am sure you might have heard of it seeing as it was a bit of American research (my whole psychology textbook was american) but see
The Prison Study ^^^
and Milgram's shock experiment - Similar sadistic findings etc
Shocking experiements - yes unethical but revealed sadistc nature of human beings even though it was to do with conformity and Obedience to authority - i miss psychology😳
Aim of Milgram: To find out whether ordinary Americans would obey to an unjust order from a member of authority to inflict pain on another person. Milgram wanted to discover what factors in a situation led to people to obey. V. Interesting - Link to show what they did...😳
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:ITMvA1XUDeEJ:www.aklown.co.uk/USERIMAGES/APFCC%2520-%2520obedience%2520-%2520milgram.doc+APFCC+MILGRAM+SHOCK&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

TFS - havn't read and evaluated the context... but thanks for response.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

What really is the true nature of evil, is it always about causing pain, or is it more about the abuse of power. What is pain, is it defined by sufferer or inflicter? What is pleasure, can one truly get pleasure from pain? There are way too many folds to this topic really.

Ok with morally evil, was simply meant immoral... Nice to hear the expected... Pain and Pleasure in this topic is NOT something inclined towards physical aspect of it, but more mental, to be precise... conscious driven. Pleasure is something that is conscious rewarding and pain is something that hurts the conscious. Sufferer and inflictor cannot define it... got to be combination of several things... that is the reason tied up with MORAL. Again I haven't looked up dictionary meaning of moral, but moral for me means something that is positive combination of clean conscious, not a social crime, acceptable right by majority, actions that leads satisfaction, etc ;). Trust me took a while framing this one right… I too understand there are several folds, upto how people interpret it but basic flow is clear.. rest of the deviations / tangents might add great value here.. thanks for giving this topic outside the box GO!

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I agree with u on A part they cant be called morally right but these people can never hurt or harm anyone to such xtend which may effect his personality or confidence until and unless victim is mentally weak or he himself is suffering from something.

as far as part B is concern
Z enjoys to inflicting pain to Mr. Y verbal/physical or whatever... bass Mr. Z enjoys to press it hard on Mr. Y.
after reading this all i can say is he CAN harm anyone mentally and physically....do u think they can let anyone live peacefully...?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonur15

after reading this all i can say is he CAN harm anyone mentally and physically....do u think they can let anyone live peacefully...?

NO they cann't still for some reason they are everywhere ... bas some or other reason.. as long some including u and me for sure... life off of our clean conscious can only wish they pay for thier deeds.

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