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Posted: 20 years ago
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Rajeev is not smiling, its just a confident look.

I completely agree with Sujalfan's views. Terrorism is a very braod topic. Where there will be terrorism, there will surely be assassinations and blasts. So I don't think there is any logic in comparing TB with 24.

Besides, you are right, breathing_irony, Ketan Mehta has used that techinque in his 1985 film, so Krupawan, admit it, technology is global and you cannot accuse him of copying it.

krupawan Please do not use near to contemptuous language in your posts. I mean, what do you mean by "idiotic indian shows" and that "there is no true acting in Indian shows". I almost felt that you have written it in spite. I agree that Indian stories (especially those of Ekta) go haywire, but do remember that there are sensible shows too like Astitva. And Indian actors are much skilled in showing out their emotions.

I hope that you are not offended, please take it sportingly.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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OK, I realize I have a lot to reply to, let me take the messages one by one.

Originally posted by: sujalfan

I've read you whole message and start replying to all your points one by one....

  1. Fox has lost the case against Time Bomb.
  2. You say not to watch these idiotic indian shows.... and to watch the original ones... well these shows are needed here. I would just like to inform you that all Indians don't understand english be even the educated ones. More than 50% of Indians are not so highly educated to understand those original shows. So dear friend what do you propose for those people. Or do you want to say that because they don't understand they don't have the right to see the show also. We are thankfull to Ketan Mehta to let us see such shows.
  3. All those shows are US based or Europe based. But here we don't have any interest in shows based on their problems. Time Bomb will have stories based on Indian sub-continents problems. So that would be more close and understandable and also INTERESTING for indian viewers.
  4. For your kind information I would like to tell you one more thing. Time Bomb is also very much realistic and the stars don't break into song and start singing their hearts out as stated by you.
  5. And here when they are showing Sept. 11 they are not going to show the incident of America. They are going to show Sept 11 2004 when Osama is trying to assasinate the Indian PM on the aniversary of US Sept 11.
  6. And finally.......... yes we'll watch Time Bomb and love to watch it.... be it because of Rajeev or ketan Mehta or anything. Fox's show is among top 10 shows in US....... here Time Bomb will be the No. 1 show..CopyrightšŸ‘šŸ¼.........

Fox has lost it's case against Time BombšŸ‘ŽšŸ¼ calling it a copy.



Sujalfan, you must understand, most indian shows (at least every single one I've seen) AREN'T GREAT. I know this may be too much for your heart to bear, but you must bear with me. The indian soap operas are just downright bad, and the only reason I can think of to watch one is if you think an actor/actress is cute. Yes, I'm sorry I'm being blunt. 24 has been released on DVD in many countries, and has subtitles in many languages. I didn't know that over 50% of India didn't know English; my Grandma told me that all Indians learn it in school. You said that you are thankful for the producer for "allowing" to see such shows. You act like something is holding you back from getting 24 and you have to rely on this guy to see such a thing. Believe me, compared to 24, this show is a joke. Didn't you see the screens?? Not just because this is almost a 100% copy, but the acting is an insult not only to 24, but to India. It just goes to show that India can't think of anything great that is authentic; everything has to be as Indians say 'inspired' to create something fantastic. Believe me, there is a fine line between 'inspired' and 'copied.' I'm not acting like India never created anything amazing on it's own, but what kind of example does this set. That the #1 show on Indian TV is a copied show. It is called plagiarism, guys, and it is illegal.

plagiarism

Literary theft. Plagiarism occurs when a writer duplicates another writer's language or ideas and then calls the work his or her own. Copyright laws protect writers' words as their legal property. To avoid the charge of plagiarism, writers take care to credit those from whom they borrow and quote.

  • Similar theft in music or other arts is also called plagiarism.
  • (thanks to answers.com)

    If you say that Indians have no interest on shows based on their problems, I say that indians need to get a real taste. A show is a show, and whether it takes place in the USA or Hong Kong does't matter. What does matter is how interesting the protagonist is, how the antagonist is overcome, plot, storyline, symbolism, etc. What you said is like saying "American people don't like to read Sherlock Holmes because it takes place in Europe, someplace far away from here." WHATEVER.
    KruPawan thumbnail
    Posted: 20 years ago
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    Originally posted by: breathing_irony

    sujalfan, I thought FOx has not lost the case yet....the case has been adjourned.....n yes I haev seen 24 myself (on video tapes)....n I must say it is more classy thn Time Bomb...but then Time Bomb is made such 2 suit the taste of INdian audiences.....Ketan Mehta is just using 9/11 to shw the magnitude of what is happening...

    Abt the pic. of rajeev smiling with blood flowing down his face then yes it does look ridiculous!šŸ˜†..come on, who smiles with blood flowing down their face?

    TB might look ridiculous in frnt of 24 no doubt (in fact it does to tell u the truth)...but it is surely better thn all the other shws we get 2 see it India!....come on, this is the first time someone has really tried 2 make something different on Indian TV, n for the first shot it is not tht bad!

    As 4 the multiple screen action thing....then Ketan MEhta used this technique in one of his movies dating back to 1985!!!!!



    I'm not sure whats going on in the 24 case right now, but I think the only way Time Bomb will survive is if the judges are paid off. And please tell me that that doesn't happen in the Indian High Court...

    Yes you are right, it does look ridiculous in front of 24, but I don't really care about that. All I care about is Time Bomb plagiarizing 24. I can't believe someone would have the guts to air a show EXACTLY like 24. And I also can't believe that using someone else's idea, this guy is going to make tons of money because Time Bomb will be #1 in India. It saddens me to think of what Indian TV has become: hoaxed up American copies.

    It's not exactly the multiple screens, but the way he uses it. More pics to come on 24 to show you the plagiarism taking place.

    P. S. You should watch 24, I think you'll love it. 😊
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    Posted: 20 years ago
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    We have not seen 24 here in India....It is not aired in any channel here neither dvd's of US serials are available in 90% of Indian cities. Maybe in some metropolitans but not all...... So for us this show is the greatest. It is a copy of 24 was told long time back even when shooting was not started. So what........ how does that matter....... the story is a new one....... maybe the concept has been copied. Hamae aam khanae se matlab hai gutliyo ko ginnae se nahi šŸ˜‰

    Yes Indians are taught english in school but spoken english is taught only in the private schools and not the govt ones. So general public is suvidha se mehrum reh jaate hai. Now don't tell me to get that changed too šŸ˜† Thats govt. policy not mine.......

    Rajeev with a smilling face pic...... well that shot is not from any scene from the serial but was taken for press release. So he's smilling.

    And about Indian serials well they are not good as you say....... but the stories are most of the time copied from soaps from English shows šŸ˜‰ And the main thing I would like to say......... Who Cares.. Rajeev Is There So We'll Make It A Hit.....

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    Posted: 20 years ago
    #15

    Originally posted by: dina

    hehe sneha ur too funny šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

    but yar he luks shooo cuteeee😳



    I already told you about that. Ridiculous posts in this topic talking about "how cute Rajeev is" will be ignored, possibly deleted. This is a professional conversation.
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    Posted: 20 years ago
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    Originally posted by: sujalfan

    We have not seen 24 here in India....It is not aired in any channel here neither dvd's of US serials are available in 90% of Indian cities. Maybe in some metropolitans but not all...... So for us this show is the greatest. It is a copy of 24 was told long time back even when shooting was not started. So what........ how does that matter....... the story is a new one....... maybe the concept has been copied. Hamae aam khanae se matlab hai gutliyo ko ginnae se nahi šŸ˜‰

    Yes Indians are taught english in school but spoken english is taught only in the private schools and not the govt ones. So general public is suvidha se mehrum reh jaate hai. Now don't tell me to get that changed too šŸ˜† Thats govt. policy not mine.......

    Rajeev with a smilling face pic...... well that shot is not from any scene from the serial but was taken for press release. So he's smilling.

    And about Indian serials well they are not good as you say....... but the stories are most of the time copied from soaps from English shows šŸ˜‰ And the main thing I would like to say......... Who Cares.. Rajeev Is There So We'll Make It A Hit.....



    You'll see the how copied it is when I get the new 24 screens... I'm glad you finall realize you are wrong.
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    Posted: 20 years ago
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    I think this is an insult to the indians, first of all, its not important for all indians to speak english as the national language of India is Hindi as well as cultural languages, and about the Idiotic Indian serials well HELLO this is not USA or UK that indians will make series based to their comfort, when indians making series they have a keen look at what the indian CITEZENS will enjoy, and the indains enjoy family drama's and not the action pack series that are made in USA so this is a complete different topic and i dont think any serial should be called names like IDIOTIC, and about the information that we dont know that this is series is similar to 24 well your not the only one who knows everything everyone on this forum knows about it as we are not retarted that we dont notice about these things, I agree that everyone has the right to give an opnion but atleast have the certasy to say it in a way that no one gets hurt and insulted and remember your an Indian too by the looks of your username i think you are an indian (if your not i apologise for calling you one) so why are you insulting your own culture with saying this!? i am sorry i sound rude but i have lost it, i grew up here in England and i too know that many of the indian films are a copy doesnt mean i go around calling indians idiots and copycats and other offensive words such as these so please refrain your language and be careful next time to what you say, i havent made an objection on your opnion to what you said about the series but YES i did make an objection on the rude language you used against INDIANS.
    Edited by Megha_Desai - 20 years ago
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    Posted: 20 years ago
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    GUYZ CHILL PLEASE...DONT FIGHT..this is just a discussion!

    Megha I understand ur frustration and anger, and it is justified. The language used is pretty rude KruPawan. It doesn't affect me, but there are many who it does affect. Words such as 'idiotic' are rude and a bit too harsh. Megha chill yaar....I'm sure KruPawan didn't intend to hurt anyone sentiments (atleast I hope he/she didn't).

    KruPawan....please dont be so rude to Dina. She's one of the MOST LOVED members on this forum. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion. What Dina has said is here opinion, and just as you have the right to voice what you feel, so does Dina have the right to voice what she feels. Nothing gives you the right to call her post ridiculous....its her opinion..and shes entitled to post it. Please dont be so rude, and least of all to someone as adorable and loveable as Dina.....she's every1's fav. on this forum.

    I have seen the first season of TB, and I have quite like it.....but what I want to tell you is that shows like 24 won't sell in India, because the Indian audience has different taste in comparison to the USA and UK audience.....and also I must tell you that Hindi is the most widely spoken language in India, so it clearly makes business sense to make shows like TB in Hindi which is adjusted to suit Indian tastes.....

    TB has just released...give it a chance...dont judge it within the first episode itself.....n yes about tht multiple screen thing...then that is a matter of technology...and tech. is open 2 every1 for use.....its a public domain....

    MOST IMPORTANTLY....we want to see rajeev.....n TB provides us with tht opp.....WHO GIVES A DAMN IF ITS A COPY OR NOT.....

    n yes...plagiarism is too strong a word...I said b4....TB has the concept of 24...but the story is NOT restricted to saving the PM only

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    Posted: 20 years ago
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    Dont worry i am calm😊 i was just proving my point that no1 should call any culture idiotic! or anyother name calls its very much insulting and rude and we dont have a right not even me to call any culture to call it names as its their own way of representing themselve

    P.S. i dont think anyone is fighting i was too discussing so dont worry!
    Edited by Megha_Desai - 20 years ago
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    Posted: 20 years ago
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    I wasnt accusing u of fighting megha.....its just tht the way this whole thing is going it seems like it's going 2 lead in2 a big fight.....n yes u r rite...no one has the right to insult any culture.....

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