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Harjot.

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Posted: 13 years ago

What really angered me from this episode was how Damon had to continously sacrifice. First he sacrificed being with his brother in the past and "let him go" but where was Lexi when Stefan forcefully changed Damon? Who was there to tell Stefan that he needs to let go? If Stefan says he needed his older brother, his actions are justified. But if Damon needs his younger brother, he's being selfish? I do not understand this at all. No matter how much Damon does the "right thing", no matter how much he sacrifices, in everyone's eyes, he's bad. Stefan sacrifices, he's a saint-the good guy.

Just thought I'd rant XD

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Posted: 13 years ago

I am going to join you in this rant. I dont know where Lexi and Stefan get off judging Damon all the time and making him feel like he is the worst person ever. (After this episode I feel like Lexi tried to seperate the brothers and totally had it coming)

Why is it that everyone keeps forgetting that there is a reason why Klaus (in his own words, as evil as it gets) wants to be Stefan's BFF. Clue: its not because of Stefan's self rightous insufferable "martyr" side. LOL I think someone would point out to him and Caroline that just because he is in Jekyll mode right now doesn mean Mr. Hyde is far behind.

I think Next Week when Stefan will find out about Delena "kiss me like you wanna be loved" encounter, he is totally going to lose it and Mr. Hyde is going to join the party 😆

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meriyaar

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Posted: 13 years ago

couldn't agree with you more... there's too much judgemental judging against damon :(

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Dhee Jattan Di

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Posted: 13 years ago

Damon has always been depicted as the "bad" guy and come on.. we all know he is to a certain extent. Stefan is no saint, especially not as a ripper 😆 But Stefan is a complete different character and somehow does possess more "good" qualities, according to the writers and most of the viewers. For example: Stefan knows he won't be able to control and kill innocent people when he sees blood, and that's why he stays away from it. I wonder if Damon would do that if he was in Stefan's place.. in fact Damon has never cared about killing innocent people apart from the ones he cares for.
He can't be selfish with Elena and his brother because he loves them.. but he can be with others right? I guess that's one of the differences. And I don't think anyone denies the goodness of Damon and that's why he has so many fans.. but both of them are different and one is just tagged as "good" and the other as "bad". That tag doesn't hold much water.

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Maddy

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Posted: 13 years ago

I agree.

I think Lexie was there for Stefan only and she did not think twice about brother's bonding. And Damon had to do right thing by letting Stefan go. It was really hard. I already said it my post that it was so sad when even Damon asked Lexie that he just needed his little brother. But Lexie, as always, biased to Stefan, did convince Damon to do right thing. And you know what? Stefan did not even know it until the last episode. I was literally saying YES when Damon told Stefan that he did not know it at all. Stefan does not understand Damon at all. Alaric was better than that. He forgave Damon for killing him twice...Come on. I doubt whether Stefan is 'Ekta' fan coz only those people can be this over dramatic and over idealistic. 😆 It is so easy for every saint fan to degrade Damon by his past bad acts. Mostly in Season 1 and 201 when Damon had been a Monster. I just wonder one thing, except for Caroline, everyone has forgiven Damon including Elena and Jeremy. (And about Jeremy...Ha! Damon has much more deep interact level with Jeremy than Saint.) So my point was, each party to the Damon's bad act had forgiven him except for Saint's fans. Its like they keep USING this point in defending Saint as in CHESS we reserved our move and USE it when we are in bad condition.

Damon had always done this. And he will keep doing this. But Saint's fans will watch it and REFUSE it wholeheartedly coz Damon is-was-will be the bad guy and Saint is-was-will be Saint. No matter what. Its even pointless to explain them. Coz they keep USING Season 1 and 201 acts of Damon in Saint's defense. Like I said, its their best move when Saint's is losing any debate. 😆

Edited by iMadz - 13 years ago

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Maddy

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: rainfire
I am going to join you in this rant. I dont know where Lexi and Stefan get off judging Damon all the time and making him feel like he is the worst person ever. (After this episode I feel like Lexi tried to seperate the brothers and totally had it coming)

Why is it that everyone keeps forgetting that there is a reason why Klaus (in his own words, as evil as it gets) wants to be Stefan's BFF. Clue: its not because of Stefan's self rightous insufferable "martyr" side. LOL I think someone would point out to him and Caroline that just because he is in Jekyll mode right now doesn mean Mr. Hyde is far behind.

I think Next Week when Stefan will find out about Delena "kiss me like you wanna be loved" encounter, he is totally going to lose it and Mr. Hyde is going to join the party 😆

WOW! LMAO .. 🤣

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315925

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Sean
Damon has always been depicted as the "bad" guy and come on.. we all know he is to a certain extent. Stefan is no saint, especially not as a ripper 😆 But Stefan is a complete different character and somehow does possess more "good" qualities, according to the writers and most of the viewers. For example: Stefan knows he won't be able to control and kill innocent people when he sees blood, and that's why he stays away from it. I wonder if Damon would do that if he was in Stefan's place.. in fact Damon has never cared about killing innocent people apart from the ones he cares for.
He can't be selfish with Elena and his brother because he loves them.. but he can be with others right? I guess that's one of the differences. And I don't think anyone denies the goodness of Damon and that's why he has so many fans.. but both of them are different and one is just tagged as "good" and the other as "bad". That tag doesn't hold much water.

Oh please. Stefan possess more good qualities? Neither of the brothers are saints. Both are equally bad. Stefan hides his own true nature (and Plec/Wesley both have confirmed that real Stefan is the ripper!Stefan. So there you go! Stefan can be selfish, manipulative, opportunistic...even though all this isn't explicitly described, we can see it through the course of the show. Thomas Gavin also said "Damon is bad on the outside, good on the inside, Stefan is the reverse."

Stefan is Damon's brother only when he has to save his life. Damon is his brother on a daily basis. No matter what he does, Damon always talks highly about Stefan to Elena, while Stefan puts down Damon on a regular basis.

Remember how Stefan almost turned/killed Elena at the same bridge her parents died? Remember how he told her he doesn't care about Jeremy? Remember how he just left her there? Remember how he wanted to turn Jeremy into a psychopath for his own needs when Damon clearly told him to find another hunter? And Stefan also left Jeremy BLEEDING when he was shot, to go after Connor.

Atleast Damon cares about Elena's friends, and not because they are her friends/family, but because he himself has a bond with them.

Edited by themockingjay - 13 years ago

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Maddy

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Posted: 13 years ago

On that bonding note, Is anyone here Jeremy and Damon fan? Oh. I like them so much. 😳They have less scenes together but their scenes are intense, deep and purely awesome.

I agree. Damon saves Elena's friends coz he, himself, has weird bonding with them. And not coz they are Elena's friends and he has to save them.

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Ume Salma Kakal

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Posted: 13 years ago

I agree, Stefan is as bad as Damon.

The writer keep on justifying his horrible acts and he still remains good in everyone eyes just because he feels bad about it. There is no justification for this.

Stefan just pretends to be good and is in complete denial of his true self. This is thanks to his friend Lexi, instead of teaching him moderation she made his repress his vampire side no wonder Stefan ends up derailing.

Damon gets all the flak because he is honest about who he is and does not sugar coat words just so the others dont hurt.

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Uday Lovie

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: iMadz
On that bonding note, Is anyone here Jeremy and Damon fan? Oh. I like them so much. 😳They have less scenes together but their scenes are intense, deep and purely awesome.

I agree. Damon saves Elena's friends coz he, himself, has weird bonding with them. And not coz they are Elena's friends and he has to save them.

I agree with you.. Damon and Jeremy ..u are absolutely right...

and whatever you say about Damon even that ..

I don't get it why the fan following of Damon can't see the sacrifices of Damon ...

but in the whole of TVD there is only one saint and that is Damon not Stefan ...