Traditions and the Angad Sahiba relationship ||DT note P.11|| - Page 6

Created

Last reply

Replies

89

Views

6.2k

Users

13

Likes

102

Frequent Posters

hellodona thumbnail
Visit Streak 365 Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 2 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Radhika_r

Sahiba does not think of Angad the way you do, she is very comfortable sharing the room and bed with him

be that as may you are right Angad is what you call him and that’s why we are also supporting for Sahiba to leave and if the family is so bad all the more she has to leave. No point in saying angad is that angad is this and staying back as it sort of defeats your own case

Sahiba not blaming him does not make any difference. Angad also does not blame Seerat for cheating but we audience know who is to blame.

Angad also does not care about the fraud, he only was upset he got married to Sahiba as he hates her and thought she plotted it. But we all know he should be mad about a lot more.

Radhika_r thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 2 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: hellodona

Sahiba not blaming him does not make any difference. Angad also does not blame Seerat for cheating but we audience know who is to blame.

Angad also does not care about the fraud, he only was upset he got married to Sahiba as he hates her and thought she plotted it. But we all know he should be mad about a lot more.

Exactly he is upset because he got married to sahiba whom he hates and that too because she dressed up as a bride to cover for her sister. If this righteous woman had told the truth instead of dressing up as bride to cover up for her sister he may have been saved having to marry her.. Angad has every right to be upset about this and this is fraud

he already said he can ignore the lies and any other fraud but not the bride cover up and ignoring the lies and fraud applies to the entire Monga family including Sahiba’s lies and fraud


Edited by Radhika_r - 2 years ago
Anons4 thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 2 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: hellodona

I am still confused why Vankar did not change the scene and infact made it worse than og. He felt Sahiba hiding identity before marriage would make her irredeemably wrong like in og, so he made her reveal.

But he did not feel Angad trying to rape a woman would butcher him fully? Like in og Riddhi just says sorry and goes, here Angad says Sahiba I tried to rape you because of your fault. And they keep so many call backs to that scene, even post Garry reveal she points it out in car and he says pravachan band Karo? I know tv shows are unserious about abuse but this is like next level weird, Khoriddhi never referenced the incident later.


Exactly... and after that too I tried to stick to the show.. in my mind that track did not exist.. but I am too tired to let go of such mistakes from the cvs side..


It's getting irritating now.. how much to let go for the sake of entertainment.. Anyway.. if they think this gets trp I wish them luck.. but yeah I cannot watch it with same enthusiasm anymore..

Anons4 thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 2 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Radhika_r

Sahiba does not think of Angad the way you do, she is very comfortable sharing the room and bed with him

be that as may you are right Angad is what you call him and that’s why we are also supporting for Sahiba to leave and if the family is so bad all the more she has to leave. No point in saying angad is that angad is this and staying back as it sort of defeats your own case


Well she did not jump on the occasion so there is that.. someone locked the door..

Someone slept on the lawn.. all that drama..


I am not taking her side but yeah it's being forced on her too..


The whole relationship is only toxic.. the damage cvs have done to the characters ..


Of the two crimes that families have done with each other... I will always see angad at a larger fault.. there is no justification to what happened on SR..

But thats me..

Anyway the direction serial is taking there is no point going back to past scenes..


The cvs themselves forget what they have shown in past.. every episode is like sole other writers view..

hellodona thumbnail
Visit Streak 365 Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 2 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Radhika_r

Exactly he is upset because he got married to sahiba whom he hates and that too because she dressed up as a bride to cover for her sister. If this righteous woman had told the truth instead of dressing up as bride to cover up for her sister he may have been saved having to marry her.. Angad has every right to be upset about this and this is fraud

he already said he can ignore the lies and any other fraud but not the bride cover up and ignoring the lies and fraud applies to the entire Monga family including Sahiba’s lies and fraud


I know what he is upset about. Rightly so. But he is doing everything to get the same frauds back into his family, just like I can't empathise with Sahiba if she chose to stay and tolerate abuse in Brar mansion instead of leaving, can't empathise with Angad, he chose marriage citing pressure from Daarji and complained endlessly later, he is voluntarily bringing Garry Seerat back so whatever happens is next is because they are doormats unless one of them decides to leave the other forever.

And it is sad that she is not upset about being nearly raped and denied food. Also a guy who is so worried about izzat of women and lectures his brother about it should have been shown to feel a little bit remorse about what he did instead of brushing it off as pravachan during car ride.

Ultimately it is the audience upset at Vankar, he ensures no fd is satisfied. Anyways bye, this convo won't end. Let us hope there is some good stuff in upcoming episodes because currently every single person seems irritated with the track.

hellodona thumbnail
Visit Streak 365 Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 2 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Anons4


Exactly... and after that too I tried to stick to the show.. in my mind that track did not exist.. but I am too tired to let go of such mistakes from the cvs side..


It's getting irritating now.. how much to let go for the sake of entertainment.. Anyway.. if they think this gets trp I wish them luck.. but yeah I cannot watch it with same enthusiasm anymore..

Yeah. We were all excited for the track post Garry reveal but makers put Veerat on pause and instead got in their fav jija in love with saali angle with vaada/jimmedari and Sahibas endless screeching. At least let Hansraj speak , he is entertainment.

Radhika_r thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 2 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: hellodona

I know what he is upset about. Rightly so. But he is doing everything to get the same frauds back into his family, just like I can't empathise with Sahiba if she chose to stay and tolerate abuse in Brar mansion instead of leaving, can't empathise with Angad, he chose marriage citing pressure from Daarji and complained endlessly later, he is voluntarily bringing Garry Seerat back so whatever happens is next is because they are doormats unless one of them decides to leave the other forever.

And it is sad that she is not upset about being nearly raped and denied food. Also a guy who is so worried about izzat of women and lectures his brother about it should have been shown to feel a little bit remorse about what he did instead of brushing it off as pravachan during car ride.

Ultimately it is the audience upset at Vankar, he ensures no fd is satisfied. Anyways bye, this convo won't end. Let us hope there is some good stuff in upcoming episodes because currently every single person seems irritated with the track.

If he can marry the person he hates and brings her to Brar mansion Garry is after all his family and why should we grudge Angad wanting to give him a second chance and he is setting right the mistake Garry did by arranging this marriage . Agree whatever kaand Gary does now will be on him but he sort of knows it too

As for the pravachan bit , just now the story obviously did not take it as seriously as you do. Many I know are not irritated and if you are used to ITV you are used to such tracks and we are absolutely alright with however they take Angad’s character .we are here to enjoy what ever is shown as nothing in our hands … Angad can be positive grey whatever we will still enjoy the character 👍 bye

Anons4 thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 2 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: hellodona

Yeah. We were all excited for the track post Garry reveal but makers put Veerat on pause and instead got in their fav jija in love with saali angle with vaada/jimmedari and Sahibas endless screeching. At least let Hansraj speak , he is entertainment.


Han yar.. veerat is like hopeless expectation at this stage... so much potential with diff things but this is what we have for now ...

music_girl thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 8
Posted: 2 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: PUMMY5

I said it yesterday that it looked liked Sahiba will fight for her right to work and she will be blasted for it and hey presto it happened. But many are missing the point and have jumped on the bandwagon again to trash Sahiba and make Angad and Seerat the ideal victims and the ideal couple and Sahiba is the big bad wolf in the love story of the ideal couple.


There is a big difference in the 3 Sisters, 2 of them will fight for there rights and the underdogs as well and will go the extra mile to do so and 1 will be the innocent crying baby with her big eyes full of fake tears etc.


Sahiba has a high pitch vocals in the way that she speaks and this is taken as shouting etc. She has over the years growing up being forced to take the back seat to Seerat and having to work from a young age, has been defending herself and her family and is open about it and does not sugar coat her words etc. She will defend Seerat and at times brushes off her dramas as being too innocent and easily lead but in reality its the opposite to the contrary of the things that Seerat says and does.


Keerat too has the same style of speaking like Sahiba and is fiercely protective of Sahiba who She has seen being abused over the years by Santosh and Seerat and how She knows the true nature of Seerat and her games and has on many occasions warned Sahiba about it. Being the younger of the two sisters has seen them from a different angle.


whereas Seerat is softly spoken and crys at the drop of a penny appears as meek and this it is used to deceive and protray her as a victim which has clearly been practised over time which has been aided and encouraged by Santosh to get her way and is used to it. When she was encouraged by Sahiba to learn to a craft and become independent and earn her own money etc to support herself and there parents, She was horrified by the tought and used this very point to start her dramas infront of Angad with the usual crying and fake tears that She did not know in which direction Sahiba was pushing her to and did not understand why Sahiba was doing it. She threw her own Sister under the bus to make herself the ideal victim in front of Angad.


Angad has been bought up to think that he is the best thing since sliced bread and the sole heir to the Brar Empire etc. The position has been given to him by his birth right by being the son of the eldest Son, the old fashioned way to be the head of the family business and not by his hard work or dedication to earn that position. Hence he cannot understand the passionate views that Sahiba holds for her Art, work and her independence etc to be self sufficient.


He is softly spoken, arrogant and appreciates beauty and things in a perfect way, this is shown with the Car drama and Sahiba bindass attitude to him etc. He cannot handle her with her outspoken views etc, after all everything has been handed to him on a silver plate and spoon, this is seen when he speaks in arrogance to his Business partner's etc. But speaks and listens to Seerat who will not challange him but listen to him as his word is the law.


To read here on this thread that Angad and Seerat are the idesl couple is really comical. Angad fell in love with her beauty, not knowing that the nonsence that She fed him about herself, she stole the good parts of Sahiba, like with the cooking etc. She has never done a day's work in her life either at home or gone out to work. To see people bash Sahiba and say that Angad and Seerat arevthe ideal couple is hilarious.


To try and pair Sahiba with Veer is crazy, he is like her younger brother.


To read that Sahiba had moved into Angad room and sharing his bed, have these people watched it from the beginning or are they watching with there eyes closed. She was forced to move in with Angad and the bed has a partition between them.


To say thaf She has no respect for her elders is stupid, She folded her hands and said with respect I do not agree with you Dharji. She is right we all have the right to be independent and have the right to work and her wish to make her name through her art work and not by her marriage. A very good point made by her but sadly no one backed her at all.

For Dharji to tell Angad to take Sahiba and explain in private, after trashing her along with the rest of his family. Did he imply violence to control her, is a troubling request to Angad or he will do it is a thinly veiled threat from a rich educated family is shocking. Elders too are wrong in some of there thinking and in this clearly so.


For Dharji and the others to surround and insult her with the harassment that Sahiba got because She was working is so stupid, no work is bif or small and her Art shop work comes like this, She got a job request that was fulfilled.


Even Jasleen after all that Garry has done is a thousands times worse but is hell bent on making Sahiba look like the villian but interesting not even Angad corrected his aunty, doubke standards in full view.


This whole mindset of woman being at home like trophy pieces worked in the past but with moving times it is outdated, which Sahiba tried to explain to Angad without any success, when She role played what he wants her to be like but he again in his arrogance he missed the point and wants her to stay at home with all the luxurious things and asked her what else She wants but.missed the point that he has never accepted her as his wife or even listerned to her or took any time to understand her or give her any love at all but She has come to understand him over time.


He is the biggest hypocrite after accusing her throughout there marriage in front of others, by mental abuse and man handling her, in private of being a gold digger and even threats to send her to jail for her fraud and marrying him for his money, he expects her to give up her independence and stay at home is like what planet are you on and his thinly veiled threat is my take that he will throw her out of the house to scare her but again in his arrogance has still failed to understand that Sahiba will not be scared of his threats but will actually go.


Now I think that Shaiba should divorce Angad and pursue her dreams and let him marry the gold digger fake Seerat as his trophy wife, who ran away with Garry and had a physical relationship with him, and will run off with someone else who is more rich than him. Once a cheat always cheat.


Finally something which doesn't look like fangirls defending poor writing of their male lead.

I don't get why fans get so irritated with female leads who are rude, outspoken, strong minded and irritating. Because Mahan complex, all female leads have it. And if the female lead doesn't worship the male lead, isn't grateful for the bare minimum she receives, she gets bashed a lot.


If it was a male lead having same characteristics, it would get brushed under the carpet and hailed.

The whole Brars are problematic. Yes, the female lead is also problematic but she is relatable in fighting for her dreams in a house where people have no backbones.

It blows my mind that people like Angad with such orthodox views still exist. Even the most trashy shows have their male lead progressive in terms of education and working.

Totally, agree with Sahiba's tone, but I've seen it with numerous girls who made their way after being pushed back by those who should have supported them or it's just the actress' tone.

With that, VJ is a good actor but Angad is such a bs character.

Edited by music_girl - 2 years ago
sriarshi thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 90 Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 2 years ago
#60

I don't know all the dialogues or hints for showing disaster track or just for curiosity to increase ratings and keep the negative buzz ..one thing if they already realised their other show why its not worked at same slot and TMD is working bec of Sahan...Whenever Seerat crap is there TRPs affected so they know it ..Bec once trp reduced they show more Sahan then ratings up and Starting Seerat victim drama..But this time marriage they are making it dramatic not like Sahan marriage for rise in ratings..As they max following OG but showing in their own way..Only thing everyone scared bec of Seerat whitewash as till now not one negative of her came in front of Angad..Only reason is obv to try triangle in future but they opened many tracks now...so which way show goes no one know..

All options opened but i feel end Result is Sahan love story. How they execute god knows. But they check ratings and go forward..Def Gary-Seerat marriage happen as that can give many tracks than just 2 sisters falling for one and esp theme is different and if they want 3 rd angle they can bring later,as now it wont make any sense ( Sahan are now like if someone love other person both will be happy &divorce as they are not even friends😂 So whats the point of Seerat -Angad angle? As Sahiba easily leave him if they show that..They don't need EMA now ) and Jas is villain &Gary he need to come in to Brar mansion take revenge on Sahiba. So this Gary Seerat marriage happen as it give many tracks like Sahiba falling, Angad falling , Sahan see Seerat real nature, Gary exposure again, open fights, Sisters jealousy, Sahiba career fighting, Seerat creating problems bec of Promise, Jas using Seerat.

Originally posted by: hellodona

Honestly, there are way too many changes to Seerats dialogues in front of Angad compared to og. Like today the scene about Seerat being upset Sahiba is Brar bahu, happened in og in front of male lead and he judged her. Also the scenes about simple wedding requested by Seerat, Seerat in og demands a big wedding going against family's request and Angads character is shocked. Also Sahibas dialogues about Seerat marrying Garry not Angad is just major foreshadowing.

These changes plus Vankars favorite vaada plus the ring swap drama is all screaming at one thing.

I would not blame Angad for falling for Seerat or emotionally cheating on Sahiba because he is clearly not in a good marriage. i think it is a positive that a male character can forgive his fiancee cheating on him when she is genuinely sorry, male leads do lot worse to female leads under assumption that they cheated so Angad forgiving and loving Seerat again would be a change.

But I wish these cvs would for once get a male lead who confesses he wants out of marriage before proceeding to do whatever? On top of that the equation is tainted because Seerat loves his brother , Sahiba or no Sahiba.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".