A Penny For My Thoughts...The Rejected Hug and Earnest Pleas (1.19.16)

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Posted: 9 years ago
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As always I read the written update first and just watched the episode. Despite the attempts to lighten the mood (shoe polish bit), I think it was just sad episode.

To begin with, Kunj came home very late. I don't blame him for wanting space. I just hope he did not seek a comforting shoulder from Maya or something of that nature. The part that hurt to see was Twinkle reach out to hug him and he shook her off. To see our funny, goofy, caring Kunj so cold was...scary. He seemed so dead and serious. But, while I understand why he is upset, I am slightly annoyed at him. What does he expect Twinkle to do? She only spoke what was to her knowledge, she cannot take her words back and she is profusely apologizing. What else can she possibly do? Yes, the wound must be fresh but he needs to hear her out at the least. Along with that, I think the fact that Twinkle said something so crazy is proof of something- that like Kunj she let the matter go. It is clear that Twinkle did not deliberate on the logistics of the Farm House assault, if she had she too would have seen the truth as she does now. I think Kunj needs to be a bit more understanding. It seems as if he is forgetting that he has slapped her, threatened to kick her out, and mistrusted her to the point where she was in continually dangerous situations. I want to commend Twinkle for being so mature and admitting to her mistake. Even her attempts later with trying to bring normalcy back to their relationship by asking Kunj to stay home with her were brave. It just seemed out of place to see Kunj so unreactive. I hope they get over this muddle.

What I did like was that despite their tiff Kunj does care for Twinkle. The first thought he had when coming was that the RT truth must be out. Kunj realizes the root of the problem is that the truth of RT's identity is hidden. I think that is what caused the argument yesterday between Kunj and Twinkle to go from bad to worse. Twinkle badmouthing RT really ticked Kunj off which caused him to raise his hand which in turn caused Twinkle to want to hurt him more. I give Kunj credit for seeing that and wanting to fix the problem by the root. The problem I think comes back to the fact that their relationship has such an unique foundation. For example, think of when two people are undergoing a common struggle; these two people draw comfort and strength from one another. Throughout the debacle with Yuvraj, Twinkle and Kunj were close because Yuvraj was the common struggle, the common enemy. However, now that he is gone, what is holding their bond? It's almost like when different people become a team when there is a common enemy yet when that common enemy is eliminated, they are unable to maintain that same proximity. Or it can also be likened to when you have class with a specific person and you grow close to them because of this commonality. However, when the school year ends, this bond may weaken. The same goes for Kunj and Twinkle. Yuvraj was a commonality between them thus they bonded. Now, that he is out of the picture, true bonding must begin. With that, Kunj did cover Twinkle with a shawl and ask her to sleep on the bed. It is clear he cares for her, perhaps as a responsibility, perhaps as a friend or perhaps as more.

I think my favorite scene was the bit in the Gurudwara. Twinkle's prayer to her Babji was touching. She really has matured. I wish Kunj had been there to hear it. However, I am grateful for the parts he did hear. He needed to hear it, he needs to know that Twinkle isn't some child that can't think or be responsible. It is clear she cares deeply about their marriage. The line that got to me was when she told her mother that she asked Babaji to fix her. This all goes back to Kunj calling her childish and making her feel as if her behavior or personality was a burden or problem. A part of me really hopes he leaves him alone and simmers down herself, becomes quiet, etc, so Kunj can see the effects of his words and actions.

Alright, bhashan khatam. Those who stuck to the end, thanks. Looking forward to hearing what you all think!


- Meg

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think first time someone is talking very very true in this forum warna everyone is only making kunj forcefully love twink which he did not or always reasoning with kunj behavior is very irrational
It will be really nice when twink will understand that she is unwanted in kunjj life and leave silently if kunj love or want her then he may search her and reconcile her and if he doesn't. Then he can go to Maya or anybody and I want a new hero for twink who loves her with what she is not any psycho like uv or licchar like cherry
Really I am now getting deattached with twinj daily more anre with kunj complete ignorance of relationship and twink just begging him like begged or doormat
I am also a big fan of kunj and especially twinj chemistry but there is a saturation point where the kind of relationship also matter not only chemistry I am not able to watch twinj scenes
Really makers should do something to kunj or not only me but everyone will get deattached once he was my favorite character but i never dislied twink this much how much I'm disliking kunjnow especially from goa
He totally think twink as burden and responsibility and is pissed off
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post, I see what you mean
I hope Twinkle and Kunj can get past all this turmoil and hope everything gets resolved
I loved the scene where Kunj heres Twinkle and Leela's conversation
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Posted: 9 years ago
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It's high time CV's need to make Kunj feelings very clear.Reg the marriage N Twinkle.I also want a separation track.Let Twinkle go to Mumbai.Then if Kunj really love her n does not think only as her responsibility.He can go after Twinkle.

This is the general problem in Hindi soap.Heroes can do mistake.Yet it will be Heroines who will be shown pacifying the hero.This kind of confrontation scene needed in past also.When Kunj did not trust Twinkle on Yuvi issue.He believed Twinkle could have hurt Yuvi.The slap incident all showed lack of trust on Kunj part also.Twinkle previously had 99% trust on Kunj.After the FH MU is cleared she 100% trust on Kunj.What about Kunj.How much he trust Twinkle.This needed to be proved by the CV's in future.CV's need to build the trust factor in Kunj.


Any person will be upset.If he was blamed wrong.I understand it.But in past he also did mistake.He apologized to Twinkle.She forgive him.Now why he is behaving so cold.He should not forget the past mistakes he has done.He also shown lack of trust on Twinkle.So he should just talk with Twinkle n try to move on.CV's should cut the nok-jhok.They need to show a scene were TwiNj have a normal conversation.About their mistakes in past.What the relation matters to them.What they r planning to do about their in future.CV's need to focus on these issues n start building TwiNj relation.

Edited by VIMAL.M - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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nice post. i felt bad for Twinkle.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Twinzie Moment Numero Dos! 😆 I'm getting all my jumbled thoughts together after finally watching the episode and I'm like wait before I write and post lemme check the forum! AND OMG LITERALLY YOU TALKED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE THING I WANTED TO MENTION! So now in response imma agree and babble a little hehe.

I was so stressed seeing him come home late and then when he distaste fully looked at Twinkle at first and then went to cover her, I was like omg what is about to happen. My post's title was gonna be Kunj's Attitude vs Actions LOOL. You're slightly annoyed with him while I was pretty pissed that entire scene. It broke my heart, shattered it when I saw Twinkle's face when he pushed her away. Like she was so worried and regretful and she gets a shove, like no. He was like oh you brought it up to hurt me and so on but ummm did you forget you almost slapped her for the second time?!?! And you never trusted her and now she's saying she trusts you more than herself and so cold, he's being so cold :/ Then Kunj snaps and goes back to being gentlemen goals with the shawl covering, concern about her getting sick and I'm like agh my heart. I need Kunj's feelings to clear up, we need some kind of insight!

I commend you for your explanation about their unique foundation because that was so mind opening! And I definitely agree, Kunj gets credit for recognizing the problem at its root. He respects his elders a lot, maybe that's why he gets angrier than he should at Twinkle. Even in the gurudwara he had the angriest expressions on his face but he needs to understand that Twinkle is only protecting her mother, she has no clue that man is her father!

Twinkle's prayer was so pure and then everything she said to Leela about Kunj and him overhearing was much needed! His face showed surprise and awe, I'm glad he realizes that she knows what this marriage is for her and isn't a child. She is doing her level best despite her wrong decisions for some things (ofc she's flawed too as is everyone!). Twinkle broke my heart another time in the same episode when she said Babaji will fix me. NO OKAY. Marriage is supposed to help you grow as an individual, alongside a partner. Not change you and kill your personality. Twinkle doesn't need fixing, anyone who thinks she does, needs it -.- Remember we were discussing how we didn't like that Kunj reprimanded her in front of her mother as if her personality was a burden? THE EFFECTS HAVE SHOWN.

I have no problems with a mini separation track and Twinkle simmering down JUST so Kunj can see that his words and his attitude have severe effects regardless of his sweet gestures. Twinkle just grows in my eyes daily, accepting and admitting her mistakes, trying to repent and her growing admiration for Kunj tells me we're gonna have problems if he continues being cold to her like the shoe polish scene psh.

Fabulous post!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: DilDhadakneDo

As always I read the written update first and just watched the episode. Despite the attempts to lighten the mood (shoe polish bit), I think it was just sad episode.

To begin with, Kunj came home very late. I don't blame him for wanting space.

At this point in time they need a little breathing space after the emotional upheaval shaking everything they shared so far...

I just hope he did not seek a comforting shoulder from Maya or something of that nature. The part that hurt to see was Twinkle reach out to hug him and he shook her off.

He would never do that... Its against his nature to disrespect relationships. I could understand him not wanting any physical contact however innocuous. its too soon for the comfort factor to return.


To see our funny, goofy, caring Kunj so cold was...scary. He seemed so dead and serious.

as he said he is sensitive but will be ok soon,,,,

But, while I understand why he is upset, I am slightly annoyed at him. What does he expect Twinkle to do? She only spoke what was to her knowledge, she cannot take her words back and she is profusely apologizing. What else can she possibly do?

Nothing she does will reduce the hurt of the accusation and the fact she did not let it go...

My take is they both never let it go hence the separate beds from day 1 to now.

Yes, the wound must be fresh but he needs to hear her out at the least. Along with that, I think the fact that Twinkle said something so crazy is proof of something- that like Kunj she let the matter go. It is clear that Twinkle did not deliberate on the logistics of the Farm House assault, if she had she too would have seen the truth as she does now.

I think Kunj needs to be a bit more understanding. It seems as if he is forgetting that he has slapped her, threatened to kick her out, and mistrusted her to the point where she was in continually dangerous situations.

He has been very understanding on many things but also thinks of her as immature when he has bail her out. Now this maha fight was hurtful and attacked him on a topic that has affected his core as a person so he hit back verbally. He needs to now think back on what he had done too...

They need time to introspect and figure out their dynamics. If they can forget and move on great if not take time away where you learn the value a person has in your life..


I want to commend Twinkle for being so mature and admitting to her mistake. Even her attempts later with trying to bring normalcy back to their relationship by asking Kunj to stay home with her were brave. It just seemed out of place to see Kunj so unreactive. I hope they get over this muddle.

He is in shut down mode.. She vocalizes when she has a problem and he seems the kind to internalize.

What I did like was that despite their tiff Kunj does care for Twinkle. The first thought he had when coming was that the RT truth must be out. Kunj realizes the root of the problem is that the truth of RT's identity is hidden. I think that is what caused the argument yesterday between Kunj and Twinkle to go from bad to worse. Twinkle badmouthing RT really ticked Kunj off which caused him to raise his hand which in turn caused Twinkle to want to hurt him more. I give Kunj credit for seeing that and wanting to fix the problem by the root.

Well identified by you... true the issue came because he percieved her to insult her dad and he cant watch that happen.


problem I think comes back to the fact that their relationship has such an unique foundation. For example, think of when two people are undergoing a common struggle; these two people draw comfort and strength from one another.

Throughout the debacle with Yuvraj, Twinkle and Kunj were close because Yuvraj was the common struggle, the common enemy. However, now that he is gone, what is holding their bond? It's almost like when different people become a team when there is a common enemy yet when that common enemy is eliminated, they are unable to maintain that same proximity. Or it can also be likened to when you have class with a specific person and you grow close to them because of this commonality. However, when the school year ends, this bond may weaken. The same goes for Kunj and Twinkle. Yuvraj was a commonality between them thus they bonded. Now, that he is out of the picture, true bonding must begin.

👏 well said...even during their engagement period, yuvi was the shadow over their life and she dreamed of him and kunj of protecting her from yuvi's violence.

With that, Kunj did cover Twinkle with a shawl and ask her to sleep on the bed. It is clear he cares for her, perhaps as a responsibility, perhaps as a friend or perhaps as more.

She is his responsibility as his wife... The day she moves on more than a responsibility to his jaan, then things will change.

I think my favorite scene was the bit in the Gurudwara.

I love them in the gurudwara... their scene in the initial days with them praying together and her dupatta covering his face are still divine.😳

Twinkle's prayer to her Babji was touching. She really has matured. I wish Kunj had been there to hear it. However, I am grateful for the parts he did hear. He needed to hear it, he needs to know that Twinkle isn't some child that can't think or be responsible. It is clear she cares deeply about their marriage.

He looked surprised and shocked to hear that she valued him and thought that he was a good person and right spouse. A part of him lit up that she did care.

The line that got to me was when she told her mother that she asked Babaji to fix her. This all goes back to Kunj calling her childish and making her feel as if her behavior or personality was a burden or problem.

I hurt for her that she thought she is the problem and not good enough.. yuvi did a number on her... Her livliness has been crushed. Kunj tries to keep it alive with their nok jhok and teasing, but her spark has gone down and that hurts.

A part of me really hopes he leaves him alone and simmers down herself, becomes quiet, etc, so Kunj can see the effects of his words and actions.

😳 that will get through him when he realizes that in this situation she too is a victim and hurting as much as he is, just as his decency was questioned, her honor was violated.

Alright, bhashan khatam. Those who stuck to the end, thanks. Looking forward to hearing what you all think!

Sorry for making it even longer...😆
- Meg

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I again watched the epi.This is second time he rejected a hug.Yest Kunj said many things to Twinkle.First he need to ask the same question to himself.Kunj was time n again used the word TRUST.In past after marriage Twinkle has show immense trust on Kunj.Except the farmhouse MU.But Kunj in many occasion failed to show TRUST on Twinkle.Kunj said to Twinkle she does not think before she speak n she assumes things.Kunj in anger he also have done the same.Then I don't get what for he is behaving so cold with Twinkle.I am finding it hard to justify Kunj cold behavior towards Twinkle.Which I find it very wrong.

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