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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .IamShonali.


Haha Akansha, no one needs to bash anyone. Its a fiction show. You shared your opinion and others will share theirs. Some will agree some wont. There is no need for anyone to fight about it. But I loved to read your take on this. There are certain things I agreed too and certain things I didn't.

Let me start with things I agreed on:
I also enjoyed todays episode.
Yes! AdRi were great pulling off the episode no doubt. Their expressions were on point and Pari this time didn't seem irritating to me. SO yes I agree with that. Yes, I completely understood Pari turning negative part and yes Adarsh and Sujju did overreact very much. It was just a deal and not someone's life that they reacted the way they did. And when is DP not mum? He has been mum for the longest time now. I will explain that part in my disagree section. Yes, the combo of AdRi was definitely fun to watch. And yes, they were damn indeed. But the last part kinda killed it. I mean if they were shown this smart, why couldnt CVs come with something better to maintain that. That was my only stand.

Now with my disagree part:
As I said in my post, I understand AdRi's frustration and insecurity towards RagLak but I dont get it towards SwaSan. Yes, Adarsh said everything in anger and when you say stuff in anger you dont remember everything. You tend to generalize things. So when he said his brothers got everything served in the platter, he meant it generally. But I still didn't agree with it because Sanskaar really didn't get anything served in the platter. Not even apology forget business. And I think you will agree on this. I have seen this show since the start. I remember Laksh left the house because he didn't support DP's decision of throwing the gadodia family out of the samaj. Laksh also went against DP like Sanskaar did and maybe even in a little worse way. But still when Laksh came back in the house, he was accepted with open arms. But when Sanskaar came back, from the dead, even though he was faking it, but his condition didn't melt DP. He put a condition towards AP that either he will stay in the house or Sanskaar will. And when AP didn't agree, he left the house. Looking at Sanskaar's condition, anyone would have melt. But DP didn't. When the truth of Sanskaar faking his mental illness came out, even though he let Sanskaar stay in the house on Ram and Pari's instance, he didn't forgive him at all. When Ragini faked those molestation charges on Sanskaar, he immediately believed and slapped him even after knowing the fact that just few hours ago, this man had just confessed all his crimes he did against Swara and them and why would he even in his wildest dream do that? Everyone was quietly watching the show except of Swara and Sujju to a level. Even AdRi. When it comes to his company, yes Sanskaar made that company in fit of revenge. But still, it was his hard work and dedication where his company was even more successful then MM co. No one came and helped him in that. Or he didn't have so much money that he could use to create a company that way. While Adarsh and laksh got the company because they were DP's son. Adarsh surely worked hard and would have contributed a lot in making it successful in many ways but he didn't build it from the start like Sanskaar did. So here, he did get the position and work at DP's company because he was a Maheshwari and obviously a smart one. Yes, Laksh got served everything in the platter. He is working hard now for sure.
And MM wasis being the silent spectator to the wrongs have been going on since so long. When Swara was misunderstood for running away from the mandap she was insulted in so many ways. She was also considered characterless when her dear sister had blamed her for that. The ladies of the MM house even after knowing the fact that Ragini has done so many kaands believed Ragini over Swara. Except of Sanskaar, who came in Swara's defense? Even whatever DP did then was just sake of doing it. He didn't strongly told them to stop their nonsense. When everyone is done giving their share of insults DP will make an entry and say "Bas bohot ho gaya". Even when Sujju was insulting Pari with infertility remarks (not that I support Sujju or Pari definitely didn't deserve that hate), he did the same. So I dont find it surprising that DP was silent. AP Sujju were ready to get Swara arrested and even they did when she was just being accused of Ragini's kidnapping. She wasnt even proved guilty. Who came in her defense? No one other than Sanskaar. DP did nothing other than saying "Yeh tumne galat kiya" And when Laksh was proved guilty of not only kidnapping Ragini but also attempt to murder, what did AP do? Just slap him and then begged the family to not get him arrested. Aur jab arrest hua, she got heart attack and he was released like in few hours. While Swara had to spend 24 hours. So this is what I meant!! The double standards they have also shown towards SwaSan and not just Pari or Adarsh. With RagLak, they have been the most lenient. Openly accepting them and forgiving them for whatever Kaand they did.
And with Adarsh complaining about the family always expected him to be adarshvaadi. Well, it is because he had it that way. There is a saying in Gujarati "Bole ena bore vechaai". That means until and unless you dont speak, you are not gonna be heard. I remember I was once having my ranting session with my friend and I was complaining about stuff and she asked me one thing "did you even try?" and that got me thinking. AdRi has always been the silent supporter of the family. Whatever the family did, they agreed to it without opposing it. Even if they didn't agree, they didn't speak up. Just as SwaSan has been taken for granted to clean the mess others have created or like Dadi has taken Shek Shomi for granted with the fact that they will keep forgiving her for all of her kaands, AdRi were also taken for granted with the fact that they will always support them the way they always did. Adarsh never revolted. Its a good thing and a bad thing too. Bad thing because you have purposely created that image of being ok with anything the family will do for you or decide for you. Sanskaar revolted. Initially in the wrong way of course but after that he did that in the right way. Swara always revolted in the right way. Laksh revolted in wrong ways as well but he still got what he wanted easily. SanLak have what they have is because they revolted. Adarsh never did. So he doesn't have the right to complain on this. Yes, if he wanted, he should have demanded second chance for Pari. And I am very damn sure that SwaSan and RagLak would have helped him convince the family. But he didn't speak up. He went behind the backs. Maybe he was too blinded by his anger or frustration and he ended up doing wrong things. But still, it doesn't make it any right (and I know you dont support how he risked the baby's life and played with it but I am just saying it)

Sorry for such a long essay😆

Adarsh never said that sanlak were served everything in platter, he said when sanskar was pretending to be dead and lakshay was doing his ayashi he handled the business that is those 5yr and now suddenly sanlak are given projects to handle and not him.
We all know sanskar's struggle in life, and his revolt too. And this ability to revolt is something that Adarsh is insecure about. Swara also has this and ragini was insecure about swara partly because of that too, because she is outspoken and bold enough to keep her pov in front of everyone. My point was adarsh's reasoning to do all this was much stronger than ragini's and kavlak's reasoning.
His insecurity is understandable, he is insecure about lakshay because he gets everything served without any struggle from family and he is insecure about sanskar because he is intelligent enough to get what he wants because he has the ability to struggle and fight for it.
Adarsh kept everything inside and followed dp's orders without a revolt and that's the reason he turned up and took an extreme step like this.
And yeah mm vaasis are silent spectators to lot of wrong doings but swasan are not, when they too kept mum about sujju's infertility comment after the key incident I was surprised. Besides Adarsh's silence then was disturbing too.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: .IamShonali.


Hehe Nupur!! Thanks for the appreciation

And yes, the gobluu is way too adorable😆 And he is definitely a SwaSan shipper. What we wanted CVs to do for us, he did it for us😆 Gave us SwaSan in one frame😆 working together😆
Oh Nupur!! Trust me I am so ready to see SwaSan babies. I dont mind a pregnancy track to be honest.

And yes, I completely agree on your analysis for this AdRi situation. When it comes to RagLak, they are just frustrated with the fact that they have been given so many chances even after the crimes these two have done. But with SwaSan, they are more jealous with the respect and dependability they have and which they have rightfully earned. There is nothing else. And yes, Adarsh also knows for the fact that Sanskaar is smarter than him and Laksh and Swara can handle and keep the family together much better than Pari and this is the insecurity that later SwaSan will be given the responsibility and since Ragini is Swara's sister and SanLak are closer, RagLak will enjoy with them leaving AdRi alone🥱 I dont know why can't they trust SwaSan. But whatever!!
Hopefully we get couples working on this now and not the behenas

Yeah the goluumoluu Chotu is too adorable giving big takkar to VK 😆
Oh I'm also eager to see SwaSan babies Shona!
Bt right now I'm in two minds about SwaSan having babies! One hand, I want it Bt other hand VaHe are too young (Helly is actually too young and VK looks much younger than his actual age) to play parents! I mean initial days will be easy when baby is few months old but playing parents of a 3/4/5 years old kid, I think we have to wait lil more!
Bt SwaSan will be amazing parents & VaHe will enact that role brilliantly, nevertheless!
And pregnancy track has great potential, though after the ruined ML track I have lost faith on CVs! Bt they can show pregnancy track differently where either family mistakes health issues as pregnancy or a real pregnancy where at the end baby get miscarried! Though it's very painful Bt some shows really managed this brilliantly! And later we will get another pregnancy track where they will be blessed with babies!
This way we can get double SwaSan pregnancy track!
I'm glad that you agreed with my analysis about AdRi!
I read your other comments above and also your discussion with Meera AND I totally agree with you that AdRi have problems with SwaSan bcoz family respect them & depend on them! And as you said SwaSan totally deserve that! So it's half of the problem!
And other half is SwaSan being more capable, talented & worthy, among the Betas & Bahus!
I totally understand AdRi's hostility towards SwaSan!
AdRi is very much insecure and jealous of SwaSan!
They are only irritated & frustrated with RagLak bcoz after all the kaands, time and again, they were forgiven even before they apologized! I totally agree with them about RagLak! Bcoz MM was/is always biased towards RagLak and they got every damn things - love, care, forgiveness, home, business - in silver platter!
Bt SwaSan didn't! Swara was always doubted, even after Ragini's revelation, MM wasis trusted her over Swara!
And Sanskaar! Sanskaar didn't get anything easily! Heck DP even grant his entry at MM after he came back from death, that too after 5 years!
He didn't get love, care, forgiveness & entry in home easily! And about Business, Sanskaar earned everything! He built his company Karma & Co. from scratch without anyones help & without the name&fame of Maheshwaris! Many times he had to suffer, even when it was both SanLak fault when they fought (At the day of MuhDikhayi) and Laksh started that Bt it was Sanskaar & his wife who had to leave the home! Even RP-Sujju were not asked about their feelings!
So AdRi's hostility towards SwaSan is pure case of jealousy and insecurity along with respect and dependability! And that's why they don't want to trust on SwaSan bcoz they know SwaSan will never do any injustice with them Bt still they can't tolerate SwaSan having all the powers in near future!
Why AdRi just don't understand that they are not capable?
I think there is a chance that we may get a track where Sanskaar will get the responsibility of Business & Swara will get the responsibility of Home to take care AND either AdRi or RagLak or both AdRi-RagLak sulking over it!
Add: So sorry Shona for this looong comment!
Edited by Nupur_5 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33


I actually enjoyed yesterday's episode...it was hilarious to watch. 😛😆


What comes to my mind is how thickheaded the CVs are. They had a good villain ready in the house, ie, Adarsh. Tarun is doing a pretty good job in the negative role. Why didn't they use him earlier instead of importing people like Kavita and Urvashi? 😕


Adarsh's insecurity could have been built up gradually. What he said about doing the work when Sanskaar was considered dead and Lakshya was sowing his wild oats was true. He was the only support to DP and RP during that time.


Sanskaar's return to the family could have been the start of his insecurity feeling. Not initially but later when Ragini revelation happened. That is when the MM family accepted Sanskaar in every way. If as DP said, Sanskaar was good at handling the business before he went away, then Adarsh's insecurities could have raised their head at that time. Develop it gradually and add the tadka of Pari unable to bear children and these two could have replaced Ragini as the negative characters.


Instead we had to jhelofy Kaveri (who had potential but was hardly seen), Kavita (who made an entry too early, she should have come after SwaSan had united), Urvashi (who was just blah and unnecessary), Kavya (who was a fun but poorly developed character, she was a psycho) and then Kartik (who was 🤢).


Rajat made sense as it was through Uttara and he was good in his role. Sahil was the mistake in the ML track along with the FP mess.


Ragini could have turned positive earlier and we would not have had the horrible malkin track! And Ragini might have got a better redemption track as well!


Lost opportunities...😭
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Posted: 9 years ago
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BRAVO!!!! Couldn't have said that better. 👏 👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

Adarsh never said that sanlak were served everything in platter, he said when sanskar was pretending to be dead and lakshay was doing his ayashi he handled the business that is those 5yr and now suddenly sanlak are given projects to handle and not him.
We all know sanskar's struggle in life, and his revolt too. And this ability to revolt is something that Adarsh is insecure about. Swara also has this and ragini was insecure about swara partly because of that too, because she is outspoken and bold enough to keep her pov in front of everyone. My point was adarsh's reasoning to do all this was much stronger than ragini's and kavlak's reasoning.
His insecurity is understandable, he is insecure about lakshay because he gets everything served without any struggle from family and he is insecure about sanskar because he is intelligent enough to get what he wants because he has the ability to struggle and fight for it.
Adarsh kept everything inside and followed dp's orders without a revolt and that's the reason he turned up and took an extreme step like this.
And yeah mm vaasis are silent spectators to lot of wrong doings but swasan are not, when they too kept mum about sujju's infertility comment after the key incident I was surprised. Besides Adarsh's silence then was disturbing too.


Hey girl,
Sorry for the late reply!! I had to go to sleep early!!
Pari said "Mere pati ki mehnat ki malaai tum dono kha rahe ho" Something on that lines. And Adarsh agreed to it. Maybe he didn't and he was too angry to oppose but what I meant was his anger came out as generalization. And yes, I didn't deny he never did any hard work. My only problem with his break down and reasons is he never tried to revolt. Maybe he didn't have that strength in him and as you and Nupur said that is what is making him insecure of SwaSan because they can revolt without fear and he cannot. He didn't try to ask DP if he could handle the deals. Or he didn't ask DP or anyone for Pari's second chance. As I said, its just a possibility that his inner frustration of not being able to ask anyone for himself could have been a reason of this outburst and that is well justified too.

And yes, I completely agree with this part. Adarsh reasons of blaming everyone was far better than RagLak's or Kavya or Kavita (any day).

Yes!! as you said Adarsh is also somewhat responsible for negative Pari. Coz when Pari got the keys, instead of encouraging her to handle it nicely, he was kind off demoralizing her. And then his outbursts coz of the deal and him comparing her with the sisters was too much for Pari too handle and hence the negativity
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nupur_5

Yeah the goluumoluu Chotu is too adorable giving big takkar to VK 😆
Oh I'm also eager to see SwaSan babies Shona!
Bt right now I'm in two minds about SwaSan having babies! One hand, I want it Bt other hand VaHe are too young (Helly is actually too young and VK looks much younger than his actual age) to play parents! I mean initial days will be easy when baby is few months old but playing parents of a 3/4/5 years old kid, I think we have to wait lil more!
Bt SwaSan will be amazing parents & VaHe will enact that role brilliantly, nevertheless!
And pregnancy track has great potential, though after the ruined ML track I have lost faith on CVs! Bt they can show pregnancy track differently where either family mistakes health issues as pregnancy or a real pregnancy where at the end baby get miscarried! Though it's very painful Bt some shows really managed this brilliantly! And later we will get another pregnancy track where they will be blessed with babies!
This way we can get double SwaSan pregnancy track!
I'm glad that you agreed with my analysis about AdRi!
I read your other comments above and also your discussion with Meera AND I totally agree with you that AdRi have problems with SwaSan bcoz family respect them & depend on them! And as you said SwaSan totally deserve that! So it's half of the problem!
And other half is SwaSan being more capable, talented & worthy, among the Betas & Bahus!
I totally understand AdRi's hostility towards SwaSan!
AdRi is very much insecure and jealous of SwaSan!
They are only irritated & frustrated with RagLak bcoz after all the kaands, time and again, they were forgiven even before they apologized! I totally agree with them about RagLak! Bcoz MM was/is always biased towards RagLak and they got every damn things - love, care, forgiveness, home, business - in silver platter!
Bt SwaSan didn't! Swara was always doubted, even after Ragini's revelation, MM wasis trusted her over Swara!
And Sanskaar! Sanskaar didn't get anything easily! Heck DP even grant his entry at MM after he came back from death, that too after 5 years!
He didn't get love, care, forgiveness & entry in home easily! And about Business, Sanskaar earned everything! He built his company Karma & Co. from scratch without anyones help & without the name&fame of Maheshwaris! Many times he had to suffer, even when it was both SanLak fault when they fought (At the day of MuhDikhayi) and Laksh started that Bt it was Sanskaar & his wife who had to leave the home! Even RP-Sujju were not asked about their feelings!
So AdRi's hostility towards SwaSan is pure case of jealousy and insecurity along with respect and dependability! And that's why they don't want to trust on SwaSan bcoz they know SwaSan will never do any injustice with them Bt still they can't tolerate SwaSan having all the powers in near future!
Why AdRi just don't understand that they are not capable?
I think there is a chance that we may get a track where Sanskaar will get the responsibility of Business & Swara will get the responsibility of Home to take care AND either AdRi or RagLak or both AdRi-RagLak sulking over it!
Add: So sorry Shona for this looong comment!


Yah I know Nupur!! Coz of the age factor they might not bring in the pregnancy track but if they bring in, I would be the happiest to see that. In fact I have a great plot filled with drama in my mind😆 😆
And yes, completely agree with whatever you said about AdRi. I dont need to add anything more.
And haha, you dont have to apologize at all for long post. In fact I love them😃


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Posted: 9 years ago
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I actually enjoyed yesterday's episode...it was hilarious to watch. 😛😆


What comes to my mind is how thickheaded the CVs are. They had a good villain ready in the house, ie, Adarsh. Tarun is doing a pretty good job in the negative role. Why didn't they use him earlier instead of importing people like Kavita and Urvashi? 😕


Adarsh's insecurity could have been built up gradually. What he said about doing the work when Sanskaar was considered dead and Lakshya was sowing his wild oats was true. He was the only support to DP and RP during that time.


Sanskaar's return to the family could have been the start of his insecurity feeling. Not initially but later when Ragini revelation happened. That is when the MM family accepted Sanskaar in every way. If as DP said, Sanskaar was good at handling the business before he went away, then Adarsh's insecurities could have raised their head at that time. Develop it gradually and add the tadka of Pari unable to bear children and these two could have replaced Ragini as the negative characters.


Instead we had to jhelofy Kaveri (who had potential but was hardly seen), Kavita (who made an entry too early, she should have come after SwaSan had united), Urvashi (who was just blah and unnecessary), Kavya (who was a fun but poorly developed character, she was a psycho) and then Kartik (who was 🤢).


Rajat made sense as it was through Uttara and he was good in his role. Sahil was the mistake in the ML track along with the FP mess.


Ragini could have turned positive earlier and we would not have had the horrible malkin track! And Ragini might have got a better redemption track as well!


Lost opportunities...😭


Hey girl!!
Yes!! I so damn agree with this. Tarun is definitely one of the good villains SR has. I really dono what were CVs doing. Why did they take so long in identifying him and using him for this track. This track would have had even more potential if Adarsh insecurity was shown developing naturally and gradually.
And I think Aparjitha mentioned that if Adarsh's insecurity was kept limited to SwaSan and if they were thrown out, RagLak could have been used as a potential to bring back SwaSan in the family and that way Ragini would have been redeemed in a better way and it would be have been so much more acceptable than the RC crap we saw!!
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BRAVO!!!! Couldn't have said that better. 👏 👏


Thank you so much for the appreciation and comment😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: zapdos

i guess u wanted to type "his mom" but ended up typing "her mom" ...🤣🤣🤣

koi baat nahi ji ... bade bade epics likhne waalon se aisi chhoti chhoti galtiyan toh hoti rehti hai

by the way what a fabulous epic you have written ... i read only half of it because i dont have so much time to read this elephantine post ... but whatever i read it was fabulous 👏👏👏

matlab thread start karo adarsh ke naam pe ... and then only bash ragya for the remaining part ... bring up their past (while conveniently forgetting the criminal record of your favourite) ... why to even write 2 sentences on adarsh in beginning ... pura ka pura thread along with the title exclusively ragya bashing ke naam pe hi khol deti aap

and by the way spoilt brats are still much better than hardcore criminals like druglords😆😆 ... you are forgetting that sanskaar is the primary dirt of this show ... he is the one who started all the scheming plotting and taking revenge from own family (by the way i am not bashing ok ... if you can call someone as taklu, then even i can call someone as dirty)... but khair chhodo 😉😉

by the way how many hours of your life did you invest in writing this epic😲😲



Bold- Whats ur problem yaar?????when did she bash RaGya whatever she said is shown in show ajeeb and Ya i agree Sanky was neg bt still he is independent from start and he is nt dealer of drugs...if u hv money u can have anything...and sanskar taking revenge cause he thought he lost his love for them bt he never jamaoing haq over others property
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Originally posted by: soumi93


Bold- Whats ur problem yaar?????when did she bash RaGya whatever she said is shown in show ajeeb and Ya i agree Sanky was neg bt still he is independent from start and he is nt dealer of drugs...if u hv money u can have anything...and sanskar taking revenge cause he thought he lost his love for them bt he never jamaoing haq over others property

Shoumi, you are absolutely right!
And even though our Sanskaar was negative, he repented hard & did everything in his power to make wrong things right!
He acknowledged, accepted his mistakes, repented & redeemed, asked & earned forgiveness UNLIKE your Ragini who still justifies her mistakes! And Laksh though asked forgiveness but didn't anything to earn that!
And Shona didn't bash RagYa, neither anyone else!
Before saying anything read the full post! Whatever Shona said & others mentioned in their comments were shown on the show! We didn't invent anything!

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