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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

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I agree with most of your points Akanksha.
Most of the shows peddle regressive shiz including those duppatta flying pink fluff series selling MCP'ness in the name of romance.
Either woman are supergirls or they are doormats.

Few strong realistic woman characters graced our screens once a while but usually it is feminism in extremes or severe dearth of self respect.

So yes I do agree with your points regarding Daadi, sujata and other pointers.

But I disagree with the housewife part.
what's wrong in being a housewife if that's what makes a woman happy? isn't that what feminism is all about. being you. doing what you want. if that is touching stars or making homes. it's all about choice. So if Swara wants to rule kitchen what's wrong in it?

and nothing wrong in being decked up either. so what AP is clad in nine yards her hypocrisy, double standards not withstanding she is a strong woman who went against her husband to bring her 'crazy' nephew back to home. that's strength. going against Ragini during Maalkin track, standing up for her self respect and family. she has got steel fibre in her being.

Clothes and profession don't make us progressive. our attitude does.

The woman in my family are one of the most strongest free thinking ones I have ever met. and they are housewives and love to deck up. Respect and love for them.

this serial challenges our minds when it comes to logic, sense and sensibility. totally agree on that part.
but truly regressive serial is that kumkum bhagya one. even IPK to some extent.
don't get me started on likes of uttaran and most of the colors serials. Sadly our serial has joined their ilk now.
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I agree with you nimmi. mostly on housewife part.. in today's world also so many men didn't want their wives to do job. because they will think that if their wife do job then their family life will be disorder. . 75% of men are like this.. but they loves and cares there wives so much.. how can a women go to job and all against her husband wish then? if she left her husband for this reason what will be their children's fate? in today's world divorce cases are increased and a main reason is this.. women doing household works and and became house wives or home makers. . not because that they couldn't have strong mentality or courage. it is just because they loves their husband and children more than them.. but trust me house wives are more strong and courageous women..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoveSriNal

I agree with you nimmi. mostly on housewife part.. in today's world also so many men didn't want their wives to do job. because they will think that if their wife do job then their family life will be disorder. . 75% of men are like this.. but they loves and cares there wives so much.. how can a women go to job and all against her husband wish then? if she left her husband for this reason what will be their children's fate? in today's world divorce cases are increased and a main reason is this.. women doing household works and and became house wives or home makers. . not because that they couldn't have strong mentality or courage. it is just because they loves their husband and children more than them.. but trust me house wives are more strong and courageous women..

Why can't men give up job to be a home maker? Why is this an expectation from only a woman? Why should a woman give in to a man's wish of not having a career for herself? Who is he? And children's fate can be fine with single Divorced parent too.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

Why can't men give up job to be a home maker? Why is this an expectation from only a woman? Why should a woman give in to a man's wish of not having a career for herself? Who is he? And children's fate can be fine with single Divorced parent too.


sorry akansksha 😊
at the end of the day since beginning of time, it has and it still is a mans duty to provide for the family.

there is more expectations from a women because when she has children it is her duty to take time off to take care of a child

as a women i believe both men and women should work to provide for a family, but no matter what it is a mans duty that is why they are rarely a house maker
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: xsumi


sorry akansksha 😊
at the end of the day since beginning of time, it has and it still is a mans duty to provide for the family.

there is more expectations from a women because when she has children it is her duty to take time off to take care of a child

as a women i believe both men and women should work to provide for a family, but no matter what it is a mans duty that is why they are rarely a house maker

Thats the patriarchal mindset that we are fed with since beginning. That's why equality is important, both patriarchy and matriarchy are extremists views. Why this pressure on men to provide for the family? And why this pressure on women to be a homemaker? My mom is a working women and I and my sister are very well bought up we were not deprived of anything. My mother was even transfered for 3yrs when I was in 5th n my sis in nursery. My mom too decided to quit her job but my father told go and pursue her career, he asked her that if he was in her place he would not even consider giving up his career so why should she? Society called my mother insensitive and what not but still our respect for both our parents increased ten folds. My dad used to pack our tiffins attend our ptms, drop us to school used to pick us up, bought vegetables sometimes used to cook if maid was on a holiday. I was always taught equality. Men and women have only biological difference, these social and psychological differences are created by us. And only we can break through them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

My point about swara is that music is her passion she gets solace in it, I am not saying it's necessary for her to have a career in music. Music is her passion, her memory loss track seconds this that the only thing that gave relaxation during all those confusing times was music. My problem is that she is not even shown playing guitar for leisure. I mean she does not picks up a guitar in mm. All the women are shown working in kitchen. Ap too had a passion for music which does not exists now. If u remember during ragini's fake memory loss track she discussed her bachpan ka sapna to own a music school.



She is more interested in sloving problems of her family... created by them... she didnt have proper time to romance with her husband... What she'll do buddy... Seriouly housewives are not like swara... Trust me... We have enough time to concentrate on what we want... Like how im passionate towards helping.. social service... Drwing painting... i alot time for that... Cvs want swara to slove those problem than achieving her dream...


And not all mens are like narrow minded... may be 50 percentage... Coz i got married after i finished my 12 exams at the age of 17... my husband forced me to complete my ug... then he forced me to go with pg and phd... but im not interested... Even he just completed his 12... He own a industry... He is very diplomatic... He knows 7 languages... including international.. he yearns a lot money... But he did... forced me ro take the job... I refused...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vaiyambar...



She is more interested in sloving problems of her family... created by them... she didnt have proper time to romance with her husband... What she'll do buddy... Seriouly housewives are not like swara... Trust me... We have enough time to concentrate on what we want... Like how im passionate towards helping.. social service... Drwing painting... i alot time for that... Cvs want swara to slove those problem than achieving her dream...


And not all mens are like narrow minded... may be 50 percentage... Coz i got married after i finished my 12 exams at the age of 17... my husband forced me to complete my ug... then he forced me to go with pg and phd... but im not interested... Even he just completed his 12... He own a industry... He is very diplomatic... He knows 7 languages... including international.. he yearns a lot money... But he did... forced me ro take the job... I refused...

Where did I say all housewife are like swara and all men are narrow minded? I am just trying to analyze a society that a serial potrays. The image of swara as the super mahaan devi bahu self sacrificing n all. With no self relaxation goals 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

Thats the patriarchal mindset that we are fed with since beginning. That's why equality is important, both patriarchy and matriarchy are extremists views. Why this pressure on men to provide for the family? And why this pressure on women to be a homemaker? My mom is a working women and I and my sister are very well bought up we were not deprived of anything. My mother was even transfered for 3yrs when I was in 5th n my sis in nursery. My mom too decided to quit her job but my father told go and pursue her career, he asked her that if he was in her place he would not even consider giving up his career so why should she? Society called my mother insensitive and what not but still our respect for both our parents increased ten folds. My dad used to pack our tiffins attend our ptms, drop us to school used to pick us up, bought vegetables sometimes used to cook if maid was on a holiday. I was always taught equality. Men and women have only biological difference, these social and psychological differences are created by us. And only we can break through them.


i agree with you, i live in a society and a country where majority of the women work. here where i live both men and women work and that is how i like it aswell.
my mum and dad work, both have worked for a long time in a working industry to provide for me and my siblings.

even i agree women should work because what is the point of sending boys and girls to school if they are not going to work afterwords.

its not about mindset, its just by logic a man is suppose to provide for the women and family. so does a women ofcourse. im not saying a man cant look after a house, cook, look after the kid and clean. men also do this but at the same its also ideal for them to provide a living for a family

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Try to understand me dear... what im saying... Cvs description about house wife arewrong not yours... and... I didnt say that your blaming all the men... when you yourself said about your dad... he is best example of good husband... sorry if i hurt.. you for typos too..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: xsumi


i agree with you, i live in a society and a country where very rarely women do not work. here where i live both men and women work and that is how i like it aswell.
my mum and dad work, both have worked for a long time in a working industry to provide for me and my siblings.

even i agree women should work because what is the point of sending boys and girls to school if they are not going to work afterwords.

its not about mindset, its just by logic a man is suppose to provide for the women and family. so does a women ofcourse. im not saying a man cant look after a house, cook, look after the kid and clean. men also do this but at the same its also ideal for them to provide a living for a family

@bold why? Why is that ideal? What if a man does not want to earn, like many women love to be a housemaker and they are given a choice to work or be a housewife or both, what about a man choice? We deprive this choice of men from his very childhood, we even deprive men's right to cry because mard ko Dard nahi hota, we also deprive men from playing with dolls or kitchen set, so actually it's not only women who are facing inequality.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

@bold why? Why is that ideal? What if a man does not want to earn, like many women love to be a housemaker and they are given a choice to work or be a housewife or both, what about a man choice? We deprive this choice of men from his very childhood, we even deprive men's right to cry because mard ko Dard nahi hota, we also deprive men from playing with dolls or kitchen set, so actually it's not only women who are facing inequality.


Then what do you expect? a women to be providing for the man instead?
what about if a man does not work and a women gets pregnant and can not work? who will provide for the family? who will provide for the child who will be born? this is why it is important for a man to work and provide

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