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Posted: 9 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Mages

i feel instead of punishment...its better to realise your mistake...accept it and rectify it...even people who go through punishment in jail doesn't only go through the punishment...there is lessons being taught in jail...how to accept and rectify your mistake and start a new life when one is released...except for lifetime imprisonment and death sentence...

as for Sangini...someday sanskaar will need ragini's help to handle kavita and gang...thus this friendship will rekindle...no matter what anyone says...all those accusations will be forgotten as per daily soap rules...

ragini's punishment is lakshya's betrayal thus its time for her to realise...accept and rectify it...there is no bigger punishment for her than lakshya's betrayal...its becos of his obsession...she changed herself...she betrayed everyone's trust...attempt to kill her own sister...kidnap her own mother...now when the man she loves the most cheat and betrayed her...how would she feel betraying the most cherish relationship with her sister...the same sister who loves her the most...that guilt is her punishment in which she can never able to look at the mirror herself...not the suffering...

lastly...lessons of rights and wrongs should be taught in childhood...ragini's mother died when she was a kid...she is the women can teach ragini rights and wrongs and she is no more in the world further more her father didn't bother to teach his daughter rights and wrongs and hand his baby daughter to his mother...she pampers her so much that she didn't teach her rights and wrongs...forgive all her mistakes...encourages all her mistakes...didn't teach what is right...what is wrong...how to realise a mistake...accept it...rectify it...when she grews as an adult how would she see difference b/w rights and wrongs...she will always thinks what she does is right...everything is fair in love and war...ragini becomes so dependable on dadi...that whatever dadi says is right...first love is last love which dadi says she believes it...its the upbringing of ragini that has went wrong thus it was easy for sanskaar to poison her mind...the upbringing she has gone through...she will definitely see that what she is doing...is totally right...so can't solely blame on ragini for not seeing the difference b/w rights and wrongs when the atmosphere she grown and surrounded did not instill such values in her...its dadi who totally spoil ragini's life...no kid is born wicked and evil...its all in the upbringing...swara had a good upbringing...but ragini doesn't...


I second u...

N now after reading this post did u get it ppl??

N yes she was just taught what are sanskars and family's repo... not what is good what is bad..
Swara was taught with that n also her culture. ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: .Sarcasmazing.

There is a point from where you literally cannot come back & Ragini is already at it long back. I cannot accept her redemption or whatever now simply cos it wouldn't matter anymore after everything she has done.

Ragini had a strict grandmother who gave her a conservative upbringing. Atleast 60% girls in Indiaare brought up like that, do they all turn out cold-blooded criminals? Ragini did not have a mother to teach her the difference between right & wrong, there are a lot of people who lose their parents at a young age, do they all turn out to be pyschopaths? Sanskaar is responsible for Ragini's evilness, so why did she not listen to him when he asked her to back off & was even willing to take the whole blame upon himself & let her go scotfree, she didn't listen to him that time. Why? Of course she heard & obeyed him when it was in her benefit as soon as the time to face the heat came, she threw her so-called friend into the fire to face the consequences alone. Why should Sanskaar rekindle his friendship with such a woman, who tried to accuse him of a heinous crime like rape, one that is NO joke & could've even driven him to commit suicide considering the loss of respect & self worth it comes for the innocent who's been falsely accused. She's tried to harm him & his love, unlimited no of times & he should be the one to support & help in her redemption, WHAT?!

It's wrong of Laksh to sleep with Ragini but what if Ragini had consummated with Laksh when he was unaware of her true colors? She was literally coercing him to have sex with her, what if they had actually done IT & Ragini's revelation happened? It would be the same as the situation right now except RagYa swapping places. I am 100% sure that if RagYa had already consummated while Laksh was unaware, everybody would forgive Ragini simply by playing the gender card which is just annoying tbh. RagYa are anyways married & people must already assume them to have consummated especially after all those announcements so I don't even get what the 'sleeping' fuss is about? IMO, Ragini desperately needed this & am glad Laksh is giving it to her, in her own style.

She can go around accusing an innocent man of rape, she can sleep with Laksh by deciet, she can try to kill Swara twice, she can insult/respect her in-laws as & when she pleases but dare anybody NOT forgive or rekindle their relationship with Ragini after she's supposedly turned 'positive' 😆

Do whatever they want to with this character, I don't give a damn, just want SwaSan to keep away from this woman. I know it's impossible to keep Swaragini apart due to shows basic concept so atleast Sanskaar should never be shown forgiving her. I know not gonna happen but still keep my Sanskaar away from this monster. She needs to be in a mental asylum or jail. That's the only punishment for her IMO.

Nice post Ritika 😃



@bold...everyone are neither manipulated nornor left heart broken
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anushapinky

what ever ragini wont change..


She will 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Radhadreamlove



No she was not a toddler but a human..a broken heart...when one is really broken..really cheated by life he is left with no sense to judge what is right n what is wrong. .

N don't say that this is a filmy dialogue bcuz what we are witnessing in the show is also impossible.. .

I don't understand why sanskar is never considered wrong for Ragini's state..I know he repented (m a sanskar fan..let me tell u)but yet he is the one..


Acid attackers who throw acid on girls whom they supposedly love but get rejected by are also heartbroken & do that after feeling broken or revengeful, some men rape the women they are in love with to forcefully get their 'love' after being rejected by the same girl cos they are supposedly heartbroken too, some people kill the spouses of the one they love in a state of rejection too. Are all of these justified? Are these crimes OKAY just because the culprit was supposedly heartbroken? So Ragini can go around killing, drugging, maligning, accusing, treating people like shit just because she was heartbroken? She can't handle rejection, a simple fact that Laksh COULDN'T fall in love with her, for that she's justified, her crimes are justified just because she was heartbroken & couldn't handle rejection? Are we really going to defend criminals like that now? That they were heartbroken & so they did it, doesn't matter if someone even dies or gets jailed due to their heartbroken state? WOW, seriously what has this world come to?

About Sanskaar, he did show Ragini the path to evil, nobody's denying that but Ragini is NOT toddler. She was a grown up woman who could take her own decisions whether right or wrong & she chose the path of evil. Sanskaar was also the first person willing to lend her a helping hand to pull her out of the evil abyss & take the whole blame upon himself, letting her go scotfree but she instead threw the whole blame upon him, double crossed him & let him face the heat for her deeds too. She accused him of molestation for godsake & you still wanna blame him for her psychophancy? Sanskaar is only a human who committed mistakes, sometimes even crimes but he thoroughly repented for them, for his own deeds, so much so that now his victim has fallen for him after seeing his innate goodness & human nature while Ragini is not a human anymore, she's a pure evil monster who needs severe punishment & nobody to love or care for her. That's what she deserves after everything she has done.
Edited by .Sarcasmazing. - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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sorry justification to raginis deeds is given that sanskar manipulated her ? she is 22 year girl and she knows what is right and what is wrong and i dont think that anybody can manipulate any person at this age unless if he thinks that is right ragini has started hating swara and i think shomi also after she came to know of laksh truth but then sanskar came he just told her his plans and she herself decided to help him in his plans he did not force her to help him and why would sanskar stop her at that time because he was himself wrong at that time so ragini wanted to get laksh and she did not think about her family once if she would have been really an innocent soul as u all said she would have thought about laksh his family and her family as sanskar was abt to harm them all but she chose herself so i dont think sanskar has done any wrong here and he also asked her to backout many times saying she will not be able to loss her relationships but she chose to get laksh by all hook or crook over her all relationship so that was her choice not manipulation
now talking abt sanskar yes he was wrong at that time he never did force ragini for anything or helping her but his miatake was that never did he stopped her but how could he if he himself was onwrong path and when he realised that then he thinking that somehow he is reaponsible for raginis current situation which i think he is not tried to make her realise her mistakes also anfd truely cared for her and even took all blame on him
so if ragini can be easily manipulated by anyone and she did what sanskar said then why did she not backout because it was always her choice and not any manipulation she wanted laksh at any cost
sanskar was wrong at that time and he has redeemed himself and he was not responsible for what ragini has done
but ragini has got enough chances and is still same
if a person can be manipulated in bad way than he can also b e influenced by good words unless it is not manipulation but his wish and choice
and in real life if u urself are heartbroken and wat something than u can not start harming ur familly unless u dont care about them and so is ragini she chose her desires over anyone else
and ya i also never liked sanskar when he was negative once i did never cared about him but he was in no way responsuble for raginis deeds even i wanted positive ragini and kept o n thinking when sge will be positive but plz stop giving her present character any justifications by blaming anyone
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Radhadreamlove

@bold...everyone are neither manipulated nornor left heart broken

Radha please let me ask you a few questions in the same context:
1. Lakshya was left heart broken by ragini's machinations, right?
2. He was manipulated by Ragini , again right?
So then what Lakshya is doing to Ragini is perfectly correct?
If we can understand poor Ragini, why cant we understand poor Lakshya?
Just because he is a man, it doesn't mean that he doesnot have emotions or doesnot feel pain. Afterall Swara was his first love which was brutally snatched by Ragini. He did make some stupid and unfeeling decisions in the beginning but that is nothing compared to drugging or killing someone.
So if Ragini is right in doing murder, kidnapping, fake rape charges etc. and still needs to be sympathized with, helped and understood, Lakshya also needs to be sympathized with for betraying Ragini's love and using her physically.
Ragini's crimes are if not much more than at least equally deplorable than that of Lakshya. If they can be forgiven in the name of manipulation or heart break why not the same treatment for Lakshya?
For Lakshya, the worst punishment would be being made to stay with Ragini. For Ragini the worst punishment would be a life without Lakshya and the biggest reward would be Lakshya accepting her.
But we want Lakshya and Ragini to stay together.
That means we want only Lakshya to be punished and Ragini to not only get away scott free but also be rewarded for all her crimes. Her getting Lakshya after her every sin is equivalent to being rewarded (albeit after some rona dhona which would simply not be sufficient for the crimes of her magnitude - afterall the crime and punishment has to match and believe me a suicide attempt and a few tears are not sufficient compensation for crimes which deserve at least 25 years jail term)
Don't you think here we are applying two set of rules here .- one for women and another for men.
Isn't what is good for the goose also good for the gander?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Sarcasmazing.


Acid attackers who throw acid on girls whom they supposedly love but get rejected by are also heartbroken & do that after feeling broken or revengeful, some men rape the women they are in love with to forcefully get their 'love' after being rejected by the same girl cos they are supposedly heartbroken too, some people kill the spouses of the one they love in a state of rejection too. Are all of these justified? Are these crimes OKAY just because the culprit was supposedly heartbroken? So Ragini can go around killing, drugging, maligning, accusing, treating people like shit just because she was heartbroken? She can't handle rejection, a simple fact that Laksh COULDN'T fall in love with her, for that she's justified, her crimes are justified just because she was heartbroken & couldn't handle rejection? Are we really going to defend criminals like that now? That they were heartbroken & so they did it, doesn't matter if someone even dies or gets jailed due to their heartbroken state? WOW, seriously what has this world come to?

About Sanskaar, he did show Ragini the path to evil, nobody's denying that but Ragini is NOT toddler. She was a grown up woman who could take her own decisions whether right or wrong & she chose the path of evil. Sanskaar was also the first person willing to lend her a helping hand to pull her out of the evil abyss & take the whole blame upon himself, letting her go scotfree but she instead threw the whole blame upon him, double crossed him & let him face the heat for her deeds too. She accused him of molestation for godsake & you still wanna blame him for her psychophancy? Sanskaar is only a human who committed mistakes, sometimes even crimes but he thoroughly repented for them, for his own deeds, so much so that now his victim has fallen for him after seeing his innate goodness & human nature while Ragini is not a human anymore, she's a pure evil monster who needs severe punishment & nobody to love or care for her. That's what she deserves after everything she has done.

Agree 100%👏
Just one question: Agar Sanskar Ragini ko kehta ki kuain main kood jao to who kood jaati kya ?
English: If Sanskar had asked Ragini to go and jump in the well would she have done it?😆
He also asked her to stop hurting others, why did she not listen to him then - because it was not convenient to her. It was always her decision. When it suited her she followed his advice, when not she dumped him. Simple.
This is a child's mentality to blame others for their own wrong doings. An adult takes the responsibility of his or her decisions.
Edited by _Payalj_ - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Sarcasmazing.


Acid attackers who throw acid on girls whom they supposedly love but get rejected by are also heartbroken & do that after feeling broken or revengeful, some men rape the women they are in love with to forcefully get their 'love' after being rejected by the same girl cos they are supposedly heartbroken too, some people kill the spouses of the one they love in a state of rejection too. Are all of these justified? Are these crimes OKAY just because the culprit was supposedly heartbroken? So Ragini can go around killing, drugging, maligning, accusing, treating people like shit just because she was heartbroken? She can't handle rejection, a simple fact that Laksh COULDN'T fall in love with her, for that she's justified, her crimes are justified just because she was heartbroken & couldn't handle rejection? Are we really going to defend criminals like that now? That they were heartbroken & so they did it, doesn't matter if someone even dies or gets jailed due to their heartbroken state? WOW, seriously what has this world come to?

About Sanskaar, he did show Ragini the path to evil, nobody's denying that but Ragini is NOT toddler. She was a grown up woman who could take her own decisions whether right or wrong & she chose the path of evil. Sanskaar was also the first person willing to lend her a helping hand to pull her out of the evil abyss & take the whole blame upon himself, letting her go scotfree but she instead threw the whole blame upon him, double crossed him & let him face the heat for her deeds too. She accused him of molestation for godsake & you still wanna blame him for her psychophancy? Sanskaar is only a human who committed mistakes, sometimes even crimes but he thoroughly repented for them, for his own deeds, so much so that now his victim has fallen for him after seeing his innate goodness & human nature while Ragini is not a human anymore, she's a pure evil monster who needs severe punishment & nobody to love or care for her. That's what she deserves after everything she has done.


Oh god.
.u reached acid attackers??? 😆
So first of all as I said m also a sanskar fan..I m not saying he is the ONLY culprit..m saying that he did hv a hand in that...n I m not supporting ragini's evils..of course I deny supporting em..I m just going through the situations led to these miseries..

N m not saying that doing crimes when u r heartbroken is ur so-called" OKAY"..where did I mention it btw?
N mentioning again m not saying sanskar bad...I jz love him..love him for his redemption..

N u r really justifying Laksh???????? For god sake ..for humanity sake say no...becuz what Laksh did isn't a punishment. .it is a sin..RAPING a girl..for hell whatever she did. .is raping a girl is OKAY for YOUUU????
There is a long list of punishments..a really really long list...sleeping with a girl. .CHHHIII. !!! ..

N ur words.."she is not a human anymore" ..that means u agree she was a human a day..n human are manipulated..not a lion or a fish can be manipulated..can they?
N if she wasn't a human then she wouldn't worry when the pandit ji in yesterday's ep said hey bhagwan..or smile when swasan's kundli matched..
I agree..she should be punished..n she is getting a punishment right now. .
N we can say.."subah ka bhoola agar shaam ko laut aaye toh use bhoola nhi kehte"


Now going out of the topic
Do u really think that acid attackers n rapists have hearts?? 😲


N one last reminder..I m also a sanskar fan
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_



Radha please let me ask you a few questions in the same context:


1. Lakshya was left heart broken by ragini's machinations, right?

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2. He was manipulated by Ragini , again right?


<strong>So then what Lakshya is doing to Ragini is perfectly correct?


If we can understand poor Ragini, why cant we understand poor Lakshya?


Just because he is a man, it doesn't mean that he doesnot have emotions or doesnot feel pain. Afterall Swara was his first love which was brutally snatched by Ragini. He did make some stupid and unfeeling decisions in the beginning but that is nothing compared to drugging or killing someone.


So if Ragini is right in doing murder, kidnapping, fake rape charges etc. and still needs to be sympathized with, helpedand understood, Lakshya also needs to be sympathized with for betraying Ragini's love and using her physically.


Ragini's crimes are if not much more than at least equally deplorable than that of Lakshya. If they can be forgiven in the name of manipulation or heart break whynot the same treatmentfor Lakshya?


For Lakshya, the worst punishment would be being made to stay with Ragini. For Ragini the worst punishment would be a life without Lakshya and the biggest reward would be Lakshya accepting her.


But we want Lakshya and Ragini to stay together.


That means we want only Lakshya to be punished and Ragini to not only get away scott free but also be rewarded for all her crimes. Her getting Lakshya after her every sin is equivalent to being rewarded (albeit after some rona dhona which would simply not be sufficient for the crimes of her magnitude - afterall the crime and punishment has to match and believe me a suicide attempt and a few tears are not sufficient compensation for crimes which deserve at least 25 years jail term)


Don't you think here we are applying two set of rules here.- one for women and another for men.


Isn't what isgood for the goose also good for the gander?




Hey hi.. 😊
How's life??

Kay coming back to the topic..
I completely agree with u..I said m not supporting ragini's evils..

Dude m jz explaining the situations which turned her...

So u think using her physically is fine???
Its not a punishment.. there are other punishments too...

Okay again it lies on both us..

POV POV ki baat hai.. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Btw Payal I liked how u kept ur words... unlike others...without hesitating that m ur friend..
U just said..😊

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