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Posted: 12 years ago
#11
that is too long😆 but very well analyzed👏

hmm from where do i start?🤔

Jensen/Dean: i love this guy to no extent and was so happy to see him back😆 he was perfect as always.. with expressions,with anger everything was perfect

Jared/Sam : he too was perfect👏
i felt there is more in the story why he didn't look for dean🤔 i don't know you guys noticed it or not but there was someone watching him when he left the house😕 may be thats cas or may be someone else will come to know that later so i don't wanna judge him right now for not looking for dean and for giving up on hunting😊 oh and also for amelia he said she was with me and then she was not so there is more in that as well😳

Jared needs to cut his hairs though🤣 i have said it before and will keep saying it until he does🤣

Kevin: Kid has grown up now and now he knows how to handle all these things by himself😳 i liked that kid in season 7 as well but he is looking cute in this hairstyle😆

Benny : i liked his gray character and he is surely gonna byte Dean in the ass 🤣🤣 and Dean and him have done some nasty stuffs in purgatory😳 which Dean don't regret it this time though but i think he will do it later on😆

Crowley is crowley same badass😆

did i miss anything?🤔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: herms_angel

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Ditto! Can I just copy-paste my topic here? 🤔 lol no, I wish to stay alive to watch the rest of the season. 😆 I can't think of anyone else who would have played Sam and Dean better. Jensen and Jared are perfection as Sam and Dean. I love the way the way all the emotions surfaced throughout the episode. You could see them both struggling to cope with their own thoughts, instincts and feelings. Dean's resolute stand of saving the people and the world and Sam's hesitant approach to it. They both have their own reasons for their respective ideologies, just like you said and yet we can't think of whom to side with. 'Cause sometimes its not about right and wrong, its about the choices we make. Benny's character has a lot of potential and he seems to have quite a few layers to him. It'd be interesting to see what the whole Dean-Benny angle has us to offer. They kept the suspense alive by not coming clear about Cass and I hope he's okay. Another character death/damage is something I wouldn't be able to handle. 😳 I loved the post<3 and loved the way you wrote everything. Analysis ho toh aisa. <3 😳

P.S : Can I say I don't like Jared's hairstyle? 🤔 His hair looked so much better in season 7.


I'm just going to reply to all the bold parts 😆

1. You know me very well 🤣

2. This is so true! The viewers are shown both sides and you absolutely cannot decide which one you like better. I mean, there's Dean, the archetypal hero who wants to save people and kind of wipe his slate clean in the process. This thing pulls a lot of heartstrings among the audience because come on who doesn't want to see a guy saving the world? There's something about those people (who save the world etc) they're a level above you and you love to escape into their world, their ideas etc.

And then there's people like Sam who don't have this complex. They think people will be fine on their own because they were fine when they (the "heroes") weren't there and they'll continue to be so. So that is a more human, regular guy approach towards things and that strikes a chord with people too. So yeah, well played Robert Singer, this whole thing is sooo well written 😆

3. Nah, Cas is going to be there, Misha confirmed he'll be seen more this season as compared to the last one!

4. Thank you bb 😳 🤗

5. HE NEEDS A HAIRCUT, JESUS.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: -BlazingWater-

First of all ,when the episode started they give a flashback of the previous storyline'Goshhh I was so excited and that doubled my excitement was like YAY My Winchesters!!!!

Jensen and Jared as usual they were PERFECT!

From Dean's disappointment towards Sam, to his scenes in the purgatory, to his childish side when he is talking about his baby, the impala'everything was perfect'

Coming to Jared, Sam was also played upto perfection. From been obviously happy to see his brother bang, to missing his 'other' life everything was spot on as you said'

The scene where Dean and Sam meet each other, I loved it. Dean as being the vigilant hunter he is, tried all sorts of test on him and Sammy is like 'a normal hello' would be better': P And they hug, all the Sam-dean hugs when the come back from somewhere [hell, cage or here purgatory] is just so sweet' the joy of seeing eachother after so long was evident.

Dean Dean Dean, this guy seriously needs to lie down and lift some weight off his shoulders. People die and they will keep on dieing, and all of it is not their responsibility'.He was disappointed with Sammy as he did not search for him., but WHERE should have he gone to search for him, last time atleast he knew that he was in hell, this time he was clueless'But then he is his brother, being a bit disappointed and angry is like his right :P'But Sam should have checked his messages, poor Kevin he also has been pulled into this supernatural world without any choice.

The 'look' Dean gave Sam while reading those voice messages , was awesome!!! :P

Then Dean getting angry about Sam letting in a dog in his Impala'Then the way he was making Sam understand why they should try to close the doors to Hell ,the very thing that killed their parents and made them what they are today'The Purgatory scenes were awesome, the aggression, the certain edginess in the character was great'looking forward to more flashback scenes.

Sammy.. well I don't blame him for not wanting this life'and well he NEVER wanted his life, he wanted to be normal..to have a family'he wanted to be free'.He does not have the baggage of the world on his back..And for the first time he was truly alone.. No Dean, No Bobby, No Cass..he didn't have anyone to look upto'the struggle with himself to hang between the love for his brother and longing for his own independent life was shown very well.

Kevin, wow! This guy has evolved and matured so much..looking forward to see him much more in the future.

Benny well its kinda weird to see Dean been so close to a 'creature'..lets see what happens next :P

Then one of my favorite was ofcorse the Dean with the burger scene :P Well that was so 'Dean'!!!

Missed Cass in the first epi, hope to see him soon'


Again replying to the emboldened parts 😳

1. This scene. Dammit it said so much about how Dean's been that past year. He was in fcuking purgatory. A place inhabited by the creatures whom he killed and sent there and now they were hunting him. How badly damaged must he be if he can't seem to trust anyone. And honestly this reflects so much on the brothers' lives as well...this thing that they've undertaken (hunting) has forced them to change, to lose that innocent happiness at seeming someone you love after a long time but instead they have to make sure it is the same person by cutting themselves etc. So messed up. Imagine living like that. Sam felt a "normal hello" would cover it, but that's because he's been living without hunting for the past year, he's just the same otherwise.

2. I don't think he can be blamed. He should've but you can't blame him because he hasn't because I think, it's like, it's like breaking up with an abusive boyfriend you know? (Apologies if the analogy offends anyone!) You break up with him and you cut off all ties, take a fresh start. Here the boyfriend is hunting, in my opinion. Sam had nothing to go on with. No clues, no family (as you said) so he quit that world and lived normally and had a fresh start!

3. I'm going to go off on a tangent here. You know, so far whatever hunters we've seen have been pulled into this world, as you say, without a choice. Everyone. They've lost someone; family, friend, lover, someone. But you know in the Season 7 episode, Time after Time, you see Dean asking Elliot, "So who died and got you into this job?" or some version of it, and Elliot says, "No one died you morbid son of a bitch." which means he hunts because he likes to. That is borderline psychopathic.

4. Dean with the burger was so perfect, the guys hadn't had them in a year 😆 He could've shown a bit more love to the Impala though 😆

Thank you so much for posting your thoughts, we should do this everytime 😆

🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Seri_KSG-

Sheesh Aanya ! 😆
that was SO long ! 😆

anyways ... all i have to say to that now , is DITTO ! 😆 because thats exactly how i felt about the episode !

About Dean - he was perfect as usual and he still feels thats its his responsibility to save everyone .. [ why would you think so Dean ? its such a HUGE thing 😳 ] oooh , and I LOVED it when Dean got angry at Sam for not using the cell phones anymore .. that scene where Dean was playing all those Voice messages for Sam and Sam was standing there all guilty and Dean with SO much Anger! it was SO Big Brother types 😃 and awwwh man , that look on Dean's face when he found out that Sam didn't even try looking for him !!

About Sam - I can't blame him much for not looking , because first of all , he had NO CLUE as to where his brother GO ?!!! where to look for him. . he was absolutely Clueless ! plus he had NO ONE as a back-up .. well no one close in fact .. plus plus , i think he had had Enough of seeing people die .. especially people close to him .. so I side with Sam a little for giving up the hunting ..

About Benny - I don't know why are people giving so much attention to him ? I mean is that person , [ who plays Benny ] , very famous or what ? 😆 because i got to see SO much of him .. OR may be because Dean hugged him first and then Sam ! 🤣 Hmm .. well whatever , if you think technically , you cant trust those creatures .. but who knows .. 😆

About Amelia - There was nothing about it at all for us to judge or whatever .. plus , that whole " Take the dog with you or else " back-up talk with Sam felt a little FORCED to me .. it seemed ODD to me , dint fit 😆 like they had nothing for Sam in this episode so they added it just to stretch the episode a little 😆

About Kevin - Okay i think i am liking that kid 😆

and Last but DEFINITELY NOT The Least CASTIEL ! - Where are you ANGEL ?! [ Ask your mother !! 🤣 that was awesome ! ]
But no seriously , what happened 😳 i hope they show it sooon !

on the Comic Parts - okay first off , i am SO NOT HAPPY with the Dean-Impala Re-union ! Impala is your baby DEAN , Show some LOVE !!! 😳
other then that , Dean and Burger scene was AWEEESOME ! 😆
Crowley and Goats - HILARIOUS ! 🤣
AND , Crowley calling Sam , " MOOSE " 🤣

and thats it from my side 😃



1. I think Benny is a huge deal. We've seen Dean with Amy last year and how he killed her because he thought she'll kill again. So we've seen how he refuses to trust any of those creatures. Yet he put his disgust aside, worked alongside Benny to get out of Purgatory. I think that shows a lot about Dean in terms of character evolution. Dean only sees black and white...good and bad in a situation. He's started to see the grey. And he totally pulled a Cas back there. Remember how Cas struck a deal with Crowley? Dean struck a deal with Benny. The dynamics are the same so I can't wait to see where Benny goes.

2. Oh definitely! I'm glad I wasn't the only one to think that! I didn't understand what they were hoping to achieve by that flashback. I think they could definitely have done that better!

3. That was priceless 🤣

Also. Sam needs a haircut. Like now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: -x-Reshu-x-

that is too long😆 but very well analyzed👏

hmm from where do i start?🤔

Jensen/Dean: i love this guy to no extent and was so happy to see him back😆 he was perfect as always.. with expressions,with anger everything was perfect

Jared/Sam : he too was perfect👏
i felt there is more in the story why he didn't look for dean🤔 i don't know you guys noticed it or not but there was someone watching him when he left the house😕 may be thats cas or may be someone else will come to know that later so i don't wanna judge him right now for not looking for dean and for giving up on hunting😊 oh and also for amelia he said she was with me and then she was not so there is more in that as well😳

Jared needs to cut his hairs though🤣 i have said it before and will keep saying it until he does🤣

Kevin: Kid has grown up now and now he knows how to handle all these things by himself😳 i liked that kid in season 7 as well but he is looking cute in this hairstyle😆

Benny : i liked his gray character and he is surely gonna byte Dean in the ass 🤣🤣 and Dean and him have done some nasty stuffs in purgatory😳 which Dean don't regret it this time though but i think he will do it later on😆

Crowley is crowley same badass😆

did i miss anything?🤔


Thank you so much for posting your thoughts 🤗

Oh yeah I noticed that! :D I have a hunch it was Crowley or one of his minions. I don't know why I think that, but I do 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aanya.


Again replying to the emboldened parts 😳

1. This scene. Dammit it said so much about how Dean's been that past year. He was in fcuking purgatory. A place inhabited by the creatures whom he killed and sent there and now they were hunting him. How badly damaged must he be if he can't seem to trust anyone. And honestly this reflects so much on the brothers' lives as well...this thing that they've undertaken (hunting) has forced them to change, to lose that innocent happiness at seeming someone you love after a long time but instead they have to make sure it is the same person by cutting themselves etc. So messed up. Imagine living like that. Sam felt a "normal hello" would cover it, but that's because he's been living without hunting for the past year, he's just the same otherwise.

2. I don't think he can be blamed. He should've but you can't blame him because he hasn't because I think, it's like, it's like breaking up with an abusive boyfriend you know? (Apologies if the analogy offends anyone!) You break up with him and you cut off all ties, take a fresh start. Here the boyfriend is hunting, in my opinion. Sam had nothing to go on with. No clues, no family (as you said) so he quit that world and lived normally and had a fresh start!

3. I'm going to go off on a tangent here. You know, so far whatever hunters we've seen have been pulled into this world, as you say, without a choice. Everyone. They've lost someone; family, friend, lover, someone. But you know in the Season 7 episode, Time after Time, you see Dean asking Elliot, "So who died and got you into this job?" or some version of it, and Elliot says, "No one died you morbid son of a bitch." which means he hunts because he likes to. That is borderline psychopathic.

4. Dean with the burger was so perfect, the guys hadn't had them in a year 😆 He could've shown a bit more love to the Impala though 😆

Thank you so much for posting your thoughts, we should do this everytime 😆

🤗

1. I agree with that!
for past one year the brothers have been living a very very different life from eachother. Sam was living a very much 'normal' life and Dean was in purgatory which is supposedly worse than hell.Last time in season 4 when Dean came back at first Sam tried to kill him and then hug him...But this time he was leading a very quite life,without and monsters or demons..thus he had become used to 'humans' ,used to a normal lifestyle where we don't put holy water on anyone we meet...
And with Dean it was just the opposites, that guy had lived the last whole year with the monsters or 'creatures' which he hunted.And this did reflected in their characters this time.
2.yeah this time he had absolutely no one,nothing to look upto or look into..all these years atleast there was Bobby,who was a father figure to them. But this time there was no one...but then a hunter's life is not so easy to give up,is it?? and in a way Kevin was their responsibly too.I am not blaming Sammy for anything,just telling something he probably should have done.
3. I agree with the part that, everyone has been brought into this.No sane person will choose THIS lifestyle.But still i feel bad for Kevin,poor thing he knew exactly what to do with his life...and then he became a prophet.But on the flipside he has become so matured,he has learnt to take care of himself as well as those demon bitches now.
4. The next thing i want to see is Dean having pie😆
I knoww!!Dean and his baby deserved a better comeback :|
We SHOULD do this for every epi!!!!😳😆🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
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And yeah Jared NEEDS a haircut now😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aanya.

I'm just going to reply to all the bold parts 😆

1. You know me very well 🤣

2. This is so true! The viewers are shown both sides and you absolutely cannot decide which one you like better. I mean, there's Dean, the archetypal hero who wants to save people and kind of wipe his slate clean in the process. This thing pulls a lot of heartstrings among the audience because come on who doesn't want to see a guy saving the world? There's something about those people (who save the world etc) they're a level above you and you love to escape into their world, their ideas etc.

And then there's people like Sam who don't have this complex. They think people will be fine on their own because they were fine when they (the "heroes") weren't there and they'll continue to be so. So that is a more human, regular guy approach towards things and that strikes a chord with people too. So yeah, well played Robert Singer, this whole thing is sooo well written 😆

3. Nah, Cas is going to be there, Misha confirmed he'll be seen more this season as compared to the last one!

4. Thank you bb 😳 🤗

5. HE NEEDS A HAIRCUT, JESUS.

1. Yeah I do. 🤣

2. Dude! Yes. Sam is what we're actually and Dean is what we want to be. Sam, a normal regular guy with the thought that the world will go on. And that after a certain limit, there isn't much or anything you can do. And Dean is the hero of sorts! We adore and idolize him. So you connect with them on both levels.

3. I know Cass is going to be there, eight episodes atleast. What I meant was you can't really trust Supernatural. What if he's only there in the flashbacks and not in the present? Or they could do him more damage. (Like going nuts wasn't enough ) Just being 'there' could have hell lot of meanings. Smart move on part of the creatives.

4. Welcome babe! 🤗

5. I like him with his long hair but this time around there's something wrong. 🤔 He's lost that smooth texture or something. << That sounds so um weird. 😆 I don't usually fuss with character's looks but just get him back to season 7's look. 😳


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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Priya: Yes we totally should! Analyzing shows is awesome :D Also yes omg I cannot wait for Dean and PIE ughh

@Husna: I know! I don't care about season 7 waala look or anything...I just want Jared to GET A HAIRCUT for chrissakes 😳

Alsooo: Sam is what we're actually and Dean is what we want to be.

SO TRUE.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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You already know my veiws 🤣
so not tyoing everything here again.
but would like to mention one thing.
ur explanation of why sam withdrew from hunting made so much sense. thanks for that.
(though i still cant see any logic as to why would it mean tht he wont even try to atleast know what the hell happened when dick was ganked. whether dean actually died or sth else)
but still i guess my anger at him will ebb sooner or later..

as to every other point agree with ya totally.
really loved the missing presense of cas in the epi. also the whole benny n dean angle has me exited. as far as the way deano was totally shaky n on edge. jensen portrayed it brilliantly.
the whole deafeated look about sam? kudos to jared for that. also he actually managed to convey tht he was ashamed of not helping kevin or dean by looking abshed. his expressions said so much on those fronts !
all in all really exited abt next episode!

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