Its clear. Kainat is officially negative! - Page 2

Originally posted by: Arshian14

Same thing can be said for Zaroon. Even though Saltanat magically fell in "love" with him, she openly denies him and has rejected him. He still obsesses over her. Why is Kainat the only one accused for being obsessive?

Kainat is not hurting S at all. S is always the one coming and taunting K. Obviously, K will reply back. Saltanat is hurting herself for her usool. How is that K's fault? Didn't K make it perfectly clear to S that she can marry Z?

Arshian145/9/2019 10:45:25 PM

I never said zaroon is right.But its you who are saying k is right in everything.

And of course like someone said k is always making s feel guilty. If she is really waiting for allah's faisla then why does she have to hurt s?why cant she let her allah do everything?...hiding and seeing saroon romance

Isnt that immoral to stalk someone

Originally posted by: Sannu_4

I never said zaroon is right.But its you who are saying k is right in everything.

And of course like someone said k is always making s feel guilty. If she is really waiting for allah's faisla then why does she have to hurt s?why cant she let her allah do everything?...hiding and seeing saroon romance

Isnt that immoral to stalk someone

You seem to be a Saltanat fan. Even you have to realize that her usool are heavily flawed. Do her usool give her permission to humiliate a boy and both families in front of guests?

I already answered the part about K hurting S so I am not going to say it again.

Doesn't Zaroon also always show up stalking Saltanat? All SaRoon fans blindly accept everything they do. Kainat does the exact same thing and she is the villain. The double standards are actually very hilarious.

Th boy stalks: Its true love. The girl stalks: Its obsession. To be honest, Saltanat also seems like a stalker to me. She always shows up wherever Kainat is and starts her taunts. Saltanat seems to be the reason behind most S-K confrontations. S always starts it and K just replies back bluntly and honestly.

Originally posted by: Arshian14

You seem to be a Saltanat fan. Even you have to realize that her usool are heavily flawed. Do her usool give her permission to humiliate a boy and both families in front of guests?

I already answered the part about K hurting S so I am not going to say it again.

Doesn't Zaroon also always show up stalking Saltanat? All SaRoon fans blindly accept everything they do. Kainat does the exact same thing and she is the villain. The double standards are actually very hilarious.

Th boy stalks: Its true love. The girl stalks: Its obsession. To be honest, Saltanat also seems like a stalker to me. She always shows up wherever Kainat is and starts her taunts. Saltanat seems to be the reason behind most S-K confrontations. S always starts it and K just replies back bluntly and honestly.

Even you seem to be a kainat fan. But I never defended s or z. I never said they are right. But its you who is saying k is right in whatever she says.

Its you who is defending kainat so deeply when she isnt even that innocent

Ok let me agree with watever u said for the moment. Its s who always taunts k and k is just replying back

Then wat abt that day when k said that whoever doesnt follow elders words are not accepted by anyone.. who is she to say that

Just bcoz she follows her miyajaan andammi's words doesnt mean she is liked by others and s is wrong

And then wat abt that when she asked s to take her mother 's widow clothes. Isnt that a next level rudeness. Wishing some one's death is what her elders or quran taught her?

Originally posted by: Sannu_4

Even you seem to be a kainat fan. But I never defended s or z. I never said they are right. But its you who is saying k is right in whatever she says.

Its you who is defending kainat so deeply when she isnt even that innocent

Ok let me agree with watever u said for the moment. Its s who always taunts k and k is just replying back

Then wat abt that day when k said that whoever doesnt follow elders words are not accepted by anyone.. who is she to say that

Just bcoz she follows her miyajaan andammi's words doesnt mean she is liked by others and s is wrong

And then wat abt that when she asked s to take her mother 's widow clothes. Isnt that a next level rudeness. Wishing some one's death is what her elders or quran taught her?

S is no saint. Didn't S once say to K that "Your upbringing to wrong". Who is S to insult K's mother like that? S directly said that K's thinking is wrong.

Again with the widow scene. I have explained that scene so many times that I am not going to say it again.

S is also pretty rude. Do her usool teach her to taunt people? Didn't she say "are your hands shaking because you couldn't get Zaroon?" How insensitive is that? How dare she to give her second hand clothes to K as if she is a servant?

Its not just that Kainat is my favourite character (She is) but I can think of reasons behind her actions. SaRoon just seem to be arrogant, spoiled and privileged kids who are unaware of the effect their actions have on the people around them. I can't even think of any reasons behind her actions. For S, one rejection became a fight about all women. For Z, he has been handed everything in his life and for the first time, he can't get something so he will do anything to get his new toy.

Everyone underestimates Kainat. She is capable of disobeying her elders. Her elders strictly forbid her from going out with men but she willingly went out with Hamza. She also willingly met Zaroon alone. She is the only one who has shown the ability to change. SaRoon are just little kids who refuse to compromise on their thinking. Both of them have called their love "Zid". Its ego vs ego with them.

Originally posted by: Arshian14

S is no saint. Didn't S once say to K that "Your upbringing to wrong". Who is S to insult K's mother like that? S directly said that K's thinking is wrong.

Again with the widow scene. I have explained that scene so many times that I am not going to say it again.

S is also pretty rude. Do her usool teach her to taunt people? Didn't she say "are your hands shaking because you couldn't get Zaroon?" How insensitive is that? How dare she to give her second hand clothes to K as if she is a servant?

Its not just that Kainat is my favourite character (She is) but I can think of reasons behind her actions. SaRoon just seem to be arrogant, spoiled and privileged kids who are unaware of the effect their actions have on the people around them. I can't even think of any reasons behind her actions. For S, one rejection became a fight about all women. For Z, he has been handed everything in his life and for the first time, he can't get something so he will do anything to get his new toy.

Everyone underestimates Kainat. She is capable of disobeying her elders. Her elders strictly forbid her from going out with men but she willingly went out with Hamza. She also willingly met Zaroon alone. She is the only one who has shown the ability to change. SaRoon are just little kids who refuse to compromise on their thinking. Both of them have called their love "Zid". Its ego vs ego with them.

There can be no explanation for that widow scene.Saroon are not that bad that someone can wish them to die

There can be no justification to such rotten thoughts

And regarding theclothes..its very common for sisters to share clothes...its not meant to insult anyone here

I dont know abt rubina but s is defenitely not trying to insult k If she wanted to then she wud have easily married z which wud be k's biggest insult

Saltanat is shown as a well studying child..shes defenitely not a spoilt brat. She has the capability to voice her choices bravely..

Not like k who only knows to hide behind walls and make stuff work thru saltanat by hurting her and making her feel guilty

Originally posted by: Sannu_4

There can be no explanation for that widow scene.Saroon are not that bad that someone can wish them to die

There can be no justification to such rotten thoughts

And regarding theclothes..its very common for sisters to share clothes...its not meant to insult anyone here

I dont know abt rubina but s is defenitely not trying to insult k If she wanted to then she wud have easily married z which wud be k's biggest insult

Saltanat is shown as a well studying child..shes defenitely not a spoilt brat. She has the capability to voice her choices bravely..

Not like k who only knows to hide behind walls and make stuff work thru saltanat by hurting her and making her feel guilty

I think everyone misunderstood that widow scene. At that point in time, Saltanat came to take that robe from Kainat that is supposed to go to Kainat's husband. Kainat is obviously upset as she believed Saltanat snatched her happiness once again. In that moment, she said to Saltanat "since you like to take everything from me, why don't you snatch my mother's widowhood too?". Kainat knew that her mother's widowhood is the one thing Saltanat would never want to snatch so thats why she said it. She didn't wish death upon her. K dislikes S very much. If she wanted death for her then I'm sure she would have said it to her face. K always says that I complained about you to Allah but she never said that she wished death for S.

It is common for sisters to share clothes under normal circumstances. Its really insensitive to give your sister your rejected Shaadi ka joda. Its like "here, take my reject".

How did K make stuff work thru S? Didn't K tell S to marry Z if she wants? How is it Kainat's fault if S is feeling guilty and does not want to marry Z? S asks for K's opinions and K answers it honestly. Why is that so bad? K is not hiding behind any walls. She answers truthfully. You keep saying K is hurting S but this is not true. S is hurting herself for her usool. S has made it perfectly clear that its not about Kainat but rather its about all women that are rejected by men. If S's principles are flawed, how is that K's fault?

There will come a time when K will realize that elders words are not Allah's will. SaRoon need to get married for that to happen. No one is asking S to be a sacrificial murti so K is definitely not to blame.

Originally posted by: Arshian14

I think everyone misunderstood that widow scene. At that point in time, Saltanat came to take that robe from Kainat that is supposed to go to Kainat's husband. Kainat is obviously upset as she believed Saltanat snatched her happiness once again. In that moment, she said to Saltanat "since you like to take everything from me, why don't you snatch my mother's widowhood too?". Kainat knew that her mother's widowhood is the one thing Saltanat would never want to snatch so thats why she said it. She didn't wish death upon her. K dislikes S very much. If she wanted death for her then I'm sure she would have said it to her face. K always says that I complained about you to Allah but she never said that she wished death for S.

It is common for sisters to share clothes under normal circumstances. Its really insensitive to give your sister your rejected Shaadi ka joda. Its like "here, take my reject".

How did K make stuff work thru S? Didn't K tell S to marry Z if she wants? How is it Kainat's fault if S is feeling guilty and does not want to marry Z? S asks for K's opinions and K answers it honestly. Why is that so bad? K is not hiding behind any walls. She answers truthfully. You keep saying K is hurting S but this is not true. S is hurting herself for her usool. S has made it perfectly clear that its not about Kainat but rather its about all women that are rejected by men. If S's principles are flawed, how is that K's fault?

There will come a time when K will realize that elders words are not Allah's will. SaRoon need to get married for that to happen. No one is asking S to be a sacrificial murti so K is definitely not to blame.

Ya ya.Whatever k says is right..its because she faced rejection for which zaroon is responsible but saltanat is to be blamed for that .Right?

Even for once did k blame or confront zaroon for the pain he caused her.? No

Because k's ideologies are highly flawed..she is blaming s for snatching z from her when actually she shud be doing the opposite

And if she cant accept saltanat 's rejected dress why is she so obsessed with her rejected husband?

Originally posted by: Sannu_4

Ya ya.Whatever k says is right..its because she faced rejection for which zaroon is responsible but saltanat is to be blamed for that .Right?

Even for once did k blame or confront zaroon for the pain he caused her.? No

Because k's ideologies are highly flawed..she is blaming s for snatching z from her when actually she shud be doing the opposite

And if she cant accept saltanat 's rejected dress why is she so obsessed with her rejected husband?

LOL you really hold resentment for K, don't you? There is no need to get so angry. This is just a healthy discussion. My main point is that there are 2 sides to every coin.

We don't know what happened between the 2 sisters in their childhood. K has always held resentment for S for snatching everything since they were kids. There is a story we don't know.

She is blinded by the resentment for S to understand that it is also Zaroon's fault. Her upbringing prevents her from realizing the truth. Her elders selected Zaroon so it can't be his fault. The only other person to blame is S.

Of course, K's ideology is flawed. Thats the whole point. All 3 characters are flawed. S's thinking is also flawed. She is so blinded by doing whats "right" that she ignores the feelings of others especially Zaroon. She has no right to decide who Zaroon marries. Zaroon has no right to interfere in Kainat-Hamza matter. He saw K as an obstacle and brings Hamza in to get rid of her. Kainat needs to learn to speak up. She is scared to do it because she thinks she is going against Allah if she does.

She accepts Zaroon because she thinks Allah has sent him to her and S snatched him. She believes that Zaroon is wrong in loving S and she hopes that he will soon realize that K is born for him. She is obviously very wrong. There is a lot more rejection coming Kainat's way and I am very curious to see how she handles it. I have a feeling that she is going to emerge the happiest after this entire fiasco.

The same question again comes up. Why is Zaroon so obsessed with Saltanat? They don't know each other that well. What substance is there for their love? It took them 2 days to fall in love. Kainat fell in love with Zaroon before she even met him. If you recall, she ignored him in the dargah because he was a stranger. She is not in it for his looks. She has this deep belief that her love is pure because her elders made her develop that love.

SaRoon "love" is extremely shallow. Both like each other's good looks. At least thats how CVs made it seem.

Originally posted by: Madhura..

Have already quit the show since a week, read updates sometimes.

Honestly to put in simple words they butchered Kainat and to glorify SaRoon, they are turning Kainat negative which is sick and so I can never get back to the show.

Also the Culture is bent as per SaRoon convenience.

I do agree with you everything goes on per zaroon wish...to me he looks like a negative character the way he plays with his eyes, he smirks or giving those challenging look when something happens...Well like you I also stopped watching...

As if he can't accept defeat or like a stubborn child, he just wants what he desires...... And that's it.

Originally posted by: Arshian14

LOL you really hold resentment for K, don't you? There is no need to get so angry. This is just a healthy discussion. My main point is that there are 2 sides to every coin.

We don't know what happened between the 2 sisters in their childhood. K has always held resentment for S for snatching everything since they were kids. There is a story we don't know.

She is blinded by the resentment for S to understand that it is also Zaroon's fault. Her upbringing prevents her from realizing the truth. Her elders selected Zaroon so it can't be his fault. The only other person to blame is S.

Of course, K's ideology is flawed. Thats the whole point. All 3 characters are flawed. S's thinking is also flawed. She is so blinded by doing whats "right" that she ignores the feelings of others especially Zaroon. She has no right to decide who Zaroon marries. Zaroon has no right to interfere in Kainat-Hamza matter. He saw K as an obstacle and brings Hamza in to get rid of her. Kainat needs to learn to speak up. She is scared to do it because she thinks she is going against Allah if she does.

She accepts Zaroon because she thinks Allah has sent him to her and S snatched him. She believes that Zaroon is wrong in loving S and she hopes that he will soon realize that K is born for him. She is obviously very wrong. There is a lot more rejection coming Kainat's way and I am very curious to see how she handles it. I have a feeling that she is going to emerge the happiest after this entire fiasco.

The same question again comes up. Why is Zaroon so obsessed with Saltanat? They don't know each other that well. What substance is there for their love? It took them 2 days to fall in love. Kainat fell in love with Zaroon before she even met him. If you recall, she ignored him in the dargah because he was a stranger. She is not in it for his looks. She has this deep belief that her love is pure because her elders made her develop that love.

SaRoon "love" is extremely shallow. Both like each other's good looks. At least thats how CVs made it seem.

Thank god you accepted even k's ideologies are flawed

Earlier it was just that k is a saint and saroon are the only culprits..that was what I was trying to say all along

Even k is extremely flawed

And regarding' love at first sight ' it does happen in real life...has happened to one of my friends too

I dont find it shallow...

And if k's upbringing prevents her from realising the truth that saltanat is not responsible for watever bad happens in k's life then we have to agree with wat s said abt her upbringing