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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TwinMadness


It's okay Jan. Relax. Tum tumhare exams finish karo.
Phir, mere stories se pado.

You are done with it, right?

then concentrate on exams and project ... and I can understand u point ... project/practical work time se finish karne ke chakar me exams ke tayari 100% nahi hoti ...
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Posted: 9 years ago
My Analysis ( nature of vali and sugreev)



Sugreev , who is now been trained in war strategies and analysis by his great father in law himself , is very quick to come to the conclusion that an enemy , who has been defeated moments ago , how does he manage to get so much guts and confidence that he returns to face a fight again. He Warns his brother Vali , who is not ready to listen , he only listens to his inner rage of fighting down his enemy when challenged .

I guess this is the most important difference between the brothers . Vali is the one with all that raw strength , Sugreev though not as powerful , makes up to that with his mind , and when the brothers rule in combined , its the perfect combo for kishkindha

Vali is going to make an ill tempered desicion , by not listening to his brother's advice , and in rage going after mayavi.

He will pay for his mistake by getting trapped in the cave


In the future , an even wiser Sugreev , when beaten by vali once , will again challenge him on ram's request ( he knows that his brother has the weakness to fight if challenged ) but this time wear a mala for identification. For Vali , the advisor will be his wife tara this time , who will caution him again that sugreev was defeated just days before an he has again come to challenge him , so there must be a plan up his sleeve. But again , he will listen to his rage only , commit the same mistake twice , and ultimately pay for it with his death .

Kishninda next heir Was Angad , he got the raw strength of vali and the brains of sugreev and tara
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Posted: 9 years ago
@DD concentrate on exams. That's most important. But I would suggest not to suppress your urge to come to IF. It would be much better if you regulate it than cut it off completely. I would say balancing it out.
It might give you a break from your studies, a little bit of relaxation.
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Posted: 9 years ago
@Shivam thanks for bringing mind power. I forgot to mention in my analysis what Jatayu says about Ravan. He is a master in playing mind games.
Unfortunately Janaki didn't understand the mind game her father played in the Swayamvar Sabha. " Lift the Dhanush and prove your Bhakti". What a powerful comment it was from Raja Janak. And Sita irrespective of having seen Ravan falls for his mind game, when he tricks her to cross the protection line of Lakshman.
Janaki tells Lakshman we should not consider our enemies powerless. And still she becomes the victim of that Maya that mind game.
Reason Janaki knew all theory, but when it came to application she faltered.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Shivam thanks for bringing mind power. I forgot to mention in my analysis what Jatayu says about Ravan. He is a master in playing mind games.

Unfortunately Janaki didn't understand the mind game her father played in the Swayamvar Sabha. " Lift the Dhanush and prove your Bhakti". What a powerful comment it was from Raja Janak. And Sita irrespective of having seen Ravan falls for his mind game, when he tricks her to cross the protection line of Lakshman.
Janaki tells Lakshman we should not consider our enemies powerless. And still she becomes the victim of that Maya that mind game.
Reason Janaki knew all theory, but when it came to application she faltered.


Absolutely Shruti , If u remember what we dscussed some days ago , experience will always win over knowledge , beacuse its based on practical events and not theory.

Lakshman had the experience of seeing and fighting Mayavi Asurs , he knew their strengths and way of working , whereas Sita , who may be knew about asurs from her father or gurus , never had been engaged against them this deeply as the brothers were
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Posted: 9 years ago
But Janaki, again, did it only to protect her husband's kul. She knows that in his life, the most important thing to Ram is his kul. To protect Raghuvansh ke maryada, and her husband's honour, Sita Ma steps out of the Lakshman Rekha.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TwinMadness

But Janaki, again, did it only to protect her husband's kul. She knows that in his life, the most important thing to Ram is his kul. To protect Raghuvansh ke maryada, and her husband's honour, Sita Ma steps out of the Lakshman Rekha.


Her inentions were innocent , to protect her kul from shaap of rishi, but her understanding of Maya failed , not once , but twice
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TwinMadness

But Janaki, again, did it only to protect her husband's kul. She knows that in his life, the most important thing to Ram is his kul. To protect Raghuvansh ke maryada, and her husband's honour, Sita Ma steps out of the Lakshman Rekha.


what exactly ravan said to mata sita?? I didn't knew it correctly, ...
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Posted: 9 years ago

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what exactly ravan said to mata sita?? I didn't knew it correctly, ...


As sita was not going out of the rekha to serve food to ravan , he tired to threaten her that he will curse her and her entire family for this disgraceful behaviour of hers towards a rishi
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Shivam...


Her inentions were innocent , to protect her kul from shaap of rishi, but her understanding of Maya failed , not once , but twice


They were innocent, but yes. Her Maya understanding was lost.
That's why Prakriti goes hand-in-hand with Maya. Maya, by it's basic nature, goes against Prakriti. Maya can even hide Prakriti. For Sita Ma, who is Prakriti Herself, Maya should have been a part of her understanding. She didn't take the knowledge of the Asuras and Maya that Lakshman offered her. Hence, she lost to Maya. In the battle of Prakriti vs Maya, Prakriti lost.

In MB, Krishna guides everyone, such that Maya is forgotten, and Prakriti wins. His control over Maya brought about the winning of Prakriti. The Pandavas followed His will, and understood Prakriti. Maya didn't work on them, due to His guidance.
For His wives, it was but natural for them to understand Prakriti. Though only Rukmini and Bhama knew who they were, and the others lived under the influence of Yoga Maya.

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