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sumedha93

@sumedha93

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Posted: 9 years ago

I know it's too early to start discussing about Vibhisan but a discussion going on in distortion and frustration thread prompted me to write this.

There is famous Hindi saying in my side of the county Ghar ka bheedi Lanka dhaaye (The person who knows secret of home is capable of downfall of Lanka). This saying is for Vibhisan as he was the one who told Ram the secrets of Ravan. Today this saying is used when someone spills the inside secret to the opponent. Enmity with a person who was once a close friend can be perilous because the persons knows your secrets, your weakness etc.

When Ravan was lying on deathbed and Ram went to meet him Ravan said to Ram you won and I lost because 'tumhare Saath tumhara bhai tha, mere Saath mera bhai tha'.

I know Ravan was wrong but how right was Vibhisan in telling Ravan's secret to Ram ? From the point of view of Lanka wasn't it treachery ? I know what Vibhisan did was for greater good but what about his loyalty and duty towards his country ?

I don't know about other cultures but in my side I have never heard that someone has kept their son's name Vibhisan, the reason being that he betrayed his country. So despite being right, despite helping God he went down in history as a character no one will ever want in their family.

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Justlikethat1

@Justlikethat1

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Posted: 9 years ago

Vibhishan was not cause of Lanka war. He did his atmost to prevent it.

He was given a choice to die for being the sane person amongst Raavan's advisors or to go away and he chose the later.

Vibhishan did not give away Lanka secrets on the go. He points our spies from Raavan when they come to spy on the vaanar army as he has made his allegiance with Ram. Raavan's death secret was revealed to Ram by Sage Agastya in the end. Vibhishan was not the cause of his death. Rather Raavan wrote his own death first when he kidnapped Sita, then by disregarding and humiliating all who wanted his good.

And usually we do not name children after any of the rakshas unless there is a specific reason (a prayer or a promise) to do so.

But I can see where the conflict about his loyalty can be viewed. Even in Mahabharat, we had Yuyutsu who did the same thing. He was called a traitor by the kouravas.

It finally comes to doing what we know is right or to stick to the wrong justifying it with the feelings of loyalty.

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attubaby

@attubaby

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Posted: 9 years ago

It is all about how we see the situation and from what side.

yes, vibhishan is looked down upon and the famous 'ghar ka bhedi' is also used in a negative way.

All I can say is he was a Vishnu bhakt and was with the right. As wat is shown in the show, he already helped mandorari to find a solution in the form of givin info about amrit. Here only, he could have stepped back and could not have helped her bhabhi as he knows how his brother is. When the evil acquires a mammoth status, it has to be destroyed and vibhishan had to be become the medium. the ghar ka bhedi should not only be seen in a negative way, but also in a warning way, which means if u do wrong, nobody (not even your family) is gonna support you.

Goin by wat u r sayin, I can also say that i did not find mandodari act of bringing amrit and givin power to her husband right, just because she was a wife and her most important dharma was to save her cruel husband despite knowing d fact that wat destructions her act is gonna create. If u c vibhishan as a betrayer, i see mandodari as selfish in dat particular act.

In kuruskshetra, lots of such loyalties or righteous notions were broken and every sam-dam-dand-bheda was used even by Pandavas as directed by Lord Krishna to win and for the establishment of Dharma because the benefit of humanity was in pandavas win.

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JAYASHREE

@jayvenk

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Posted: 9 years ago

Skr got it wrong.. mandodari did not bring amrit. The boon was given by Brahma that his life source will be hidden in his navel.

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JAYASHREE

@jayvenk

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Posted: 9 years ago

Skr drawing parallels.

Reason why characters are getting diluted.

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attubaby

@attubaby

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: jayvenk
Skr got it wrong.. mandodari did not bring amrit. The boon was given by Brahma that his life source will be hidden in his navel.

such heavy distortion...😡

dats really not acceptable from SKR👎🏼

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JAYASHREE

@jayvenk

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Posted: 9 years ago

Attubaby there is a thread about mandodari. Please do read it.

She is after all one of the pancha kanyas.

Skr are making viewers compare between mandodari and Sita.

In my opinion that is wrong.

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Justlikethat1

@Justlikethat1

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Posted: 9 years ago

Jaya, you are right. The characters are certainly being diluted.

As for Vibhishan, he got a boon from Brahma to always be righteous on the side of dharma and support only righteousness. That is why he would never have been able to support Raavan. His boon was the one granted by Brahma when the three brothers did their penance.

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attubaby

@attubaby

Dazzler

Posted: 9 years ago

@jaya ohhh the panchkanya thread

wat is boggling my mind is makers should not have made such huge blunder...some fictional part is acceptable, as after all, it is televised. But how can facts be altered and as huge as the boon given to Raavan😲

if they have shown mandodari bringin amrit kalash, there must b some source that they referred. How cud they show it just like dat😕