How can someone like Ravana more than Ram?

Hi everyone 😊
well nowadays for some people discusssing about ramayana and mahabharat is considered to be "boring" and "outdated" i don't know about others i'm talking about what i'm seeing around me! i don't know the reason for this but still i had managed to have an entire 10 minutes conversation with my friends about ramayana and know what one of them said? she said- " i like Ravana more than Ram infact i don't like Ram at all" and the reason why she said this was because she thinks that Lord ram was just like all the men in today's world he doubted his own wife and then even abandoned her. i don't know how can someone say this! how can they like Ravana more than Ram?how can they even compare both of them?
I know that there many versions relating to this "agnipariksha" topic and i don't know which one to believe but one thing i know is that even if lord ram asked goddess sita for agnipariksha or asked her to leave Ayodhya one thing is sure that he really loved her a lot! and i think that lord ram was an ideal husband. for a wife the most precious thing is her husband's love and that is what lord ram did to goddess sita! he never married again it clearly shows how much he loved her.Sometimes people have to do what they don't want to even we are in such situations sometimes then that was lord Ram,he was a king and he had a purpose for his birth so even if he asked goddess sita to go for exile it wasn't his choice,he had some duties.Don't take me in a wrong way even i think it was injustice to send goddess sita away but lord ram was bounded by his duties. i think it's high for some people to understand in what situation lord ram was and stop blaming him! he was maryada purushottam and always loved his wife he isn't like men in today's world. He's beyond our thinking and for me he's always going to be an ideal husband.

each one has their own view dear.There is nothing wrong in it.You saw the positive side of Ram, and your friend saw the same in a negative vision. that's the only difference.

Originally posted by: -She-loSarun

each one has their own view dear.There is nothing wrong in it.You saw the positive side of Ram, and your friend saw the same in a negative vision. that's the only difference.

Yeah I agree that everyone have their own point of view but then why compare Ram with Ravana?

Originally posted by: Mahiima16

Yeah I agree that everyone have their own point of view but then why compare Ram with Ravana?

see here we are talking about an antagonist of a world famous myth. It is not common to find people liking an antagonist and when such people comes, to prove their point, they will obviously compare him with the protagonist of the same. it doesn't happen only in Ramayana. if u like a movie and say u like the villain more than the hero. it is because the assumption is the hero is the good guy and villain is a bad one. so, if u say u like bad, you will obviously tell why u like him more than good. so same goes with ram and ravan, in this case.

A very good topic TM!

You are right. There are a lot of people who say they like an antagonist like Ravana more than Ram because as you have so well put it, Ram doubted his wife Sita.

This is mostly because of the skewed version of Ramayan they hear time and again from people who just find a way to either have a different view or intentionally use certain instances to justify their narrative.

There is also the other side which has become fashionable nowadays... Making the villain, the tragic anti-hero.. People forget that Ravana was cruel and abducted a woman against her wishes, kept her captive and made her suffer. But then he is better because he did not ask his wife for an agnipareeksha... Well, no one else during his time (except Vaali) had the streak to kidnap another man's wife.

Ram never doubted Sita and that is pretty well obvious in Ramayan. Even when he asks her for the agnipareeksha the first time, he vehemently says that he has no doubts on Sita.. He never did doubt her. But he had to ask what he asked for a world that was changing and becoming cruel.
His doubt was on the world and how it would treat his wife.. His fears did come true. Even after the agnipareeksha, Sita was still questioned by her own subject on her chastity.

Everytime Sita went through the agnipareeksha, Ram suffered along with her. Today, there is no one who doubts Sita's chastity. We are so sure about her without an iota of doubt and that is because we know what she went through, the pain, the suffering and most of all the two agnipareekshas
Imagine that the agnipareeksha did not happen.. The same person who now justifies not liking Ram because he doubted his wife would not wait 2 minutes before asking how to believe in Sita just like the washerman who did not wait 2 seconds before doubting his queen.. After all, given the choice to come back with Hanuman, she waited for Ram right? It would'nt take this world 2 minutes to question something like that without thinking through it..

Ram just made it impossible.. Just imagine from his PoV and you will see the husband dying a thousand deaths because he is bound by his throne and more to serve his people with fairness.

Ram and Sita were born to teach the world to live a life the right way and they showed that way all through. It is not just that Ram did not marry again but the fact that they understood each other so well at a level we cannot imagine that makes their relationship beyond explanation.

Everything cannot be seen in black or white.
Ram was the human form of Lord Vishnu, and as a human being, he's sure to have some flaws.
In his need to be the best Son and King, he forgot or couldn't be the best Husband. He put his people before his personal life.

Some see that as a great act others view it as terrible thing to do to the woman he loves. It's all a matter of perception.

As for Ravana, he had committed many bad deeds and one of his greatest faults was hubris which brought about his downfall.

Having said that, his Sita haran was something he did for a reason. And it wasn't because he wanted her or to marry her. Not once did he try compromise her in captivity.

The reason behind this is to get Ram to follow him and kill him. As Ravana, he was a great Shiv bakht but in his original avatar as one of the dwarapalakas of Vaiykund, Jai/Vijay, he was a total devotee of Vishnu. There's a story behind the curse the two dwarapalakas received at the hands of some sages who condemned them to three life spans as Rakshasas on Earth and the only thing these two asked for was to be killed at the hands of Vishnu. In Ram's avatar Ravan was killed by him.

It really so depressing to see people judging members based on discussions

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

It's kind of ironic how the same person who criticizes Ram for abandoning Sita praises Ravan, although HE actually raped and molested 100s of women and killed many innocent people just because they were Vishnu bhakts. So what if Ravan was Shiva bhakt? That didn't stop Hanuman from setting fire to Lanka.

This is nothing more than people giving into the latest fashion of praising the villain and criticizing the hero. It's unfortunate that practice has spread like a disease to mythos too. Only Lord Ram can give such people buddhi and common sense.

@TM: Good post.
I have seen people raising certain valid question about Lord Rama's action towards sita but it does not mean that Ravana is better than Ram.
I come across this article and got 😲
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20071021/spectrum/society1.htm

If its true, I feel then we are still half-knowledged about Ramayan.😕