What does Nandini want?? - Page 4

Excuse me! Sorry for coming in! I understand patriarchy. I understand Nandini is extremely dependent woman. This is a legitimate reason for her submissiveness to Rajdeep, being dependent on Mauli, being introvert, timid etc etc. But how's this patriarchy concept even connected to EMA? As far as I understand, people from conservative background are even more particular about such things and would never jump into something as disgusting as this.

That lusty pig Kunal has proposed her. This ma'am accepted in her full mind and senses. That lusty pig had sex with her. He didn't rape her. This ma'am thoroughly enjoyed it and even after that she was in a state of bliss. What's this 'who started love?' ?? He didn't pull her forcibly into love. It was her choice too. The only point where she was forced was when she was about to leave the city. She could still refuse to budge but okay, let's say she's not confident and patriarchy might come into the picture there. Except for that nothing, I repeat, nothing was forced on her. Accepting his proposal, kheer, asking him to stay more, having sex, calling him to park, romancing even after that - every damn thing was done by her will and wish. That too with happiness. It's not like he imposed on her and being a woman with low self esteem she budged. Patriarchy can't be pulled into this please!

And some people are saying he 'used' her??? How come? She was misinformed about his marital status or what? Or did he promise her before having sex that he'll marry her? Madam realized her love because of baba ji, it's not that Kunal hyponotized her saying she loves him right? Or did he actually use her for physical pleasure without informing her or her consent? When both of them had consensual sex, when both of them felt equally blissful, how has that become 'use'?

That characterless man broke all the sacred vows. This characterless woman literally stamped the life of someone who actually gave her a new life. How disgusting is that! I don't know why are people even arguing Kunal is worse or Nandini is worse. From the proposal scene, both of them are equally disgusting. The moment they slept with each other, they proved they deserve to be loathed as much! Either of them is not any less to the other! If few people want to somehow emphasize more on only one of them giving other reasons like 'psyche' or 'victim', it's utter nonsense. All those things may be true but they aren't the 'cause' of EMA. The cause is the selfishness and lust of those two divine people. As simple as that.

Originally posted by: evenjleena28

It's quite ironic isn't it that you don't wish to listen to my view but believe yours is right? I am not sure if you understand what patriarchy means? It doesn't mean that we don't have the capacity to make decisions, it means how our decisions are welcomed.

Where did I say that an affair is justified? Also where have I said Nandini is not wrong? You are right most women will not sleep with married but but women do sleep with married men, some of them are very strong women. I cannot speak on how you were raised but hating a fictional character for sleeping with a married man when you yourself said you will not do that seems paradoxical in my view.

The Indian code they many are saying means Nandini has committed a crime also states that a man has to consent his wife sleeping with another!!!!! That itself is f****g patriarchy!!! If my husband allows me to sleep with other means our marriage sucks as it is. So by that rule Rajdeep is within the limits of the law because he wanted Nandini to sleep with that fat man.

Just because you are strong doesn't mean all women are, Indian villages are epitome of patriarchy and lack of respect for women. Nandini is immoral, allright - then what is kunal? Pillar of morals?

Who is not blaming Nandini? I guess the only difference is I prefer facts and not emotions, and I believe in civilised conversation. Not one person on this forum is saying that Nandini is not responsible, some just have the ability to think outside the box and look at the bigger picture.

Originally posted by: evenjleena28

@gaushiv13

Thank you for sharing your experience and you are right that is the reality. Just because one woman gets all the freedom doesn't mean all women do.

I never understand that why to support one woman we have to demean another? Nandini is responsible for her actions but calling her names when the man goes scot free is ridiculous and illogical. I have never said Nandini is not responsible, she is but kunal he started this whole mess.

It appears that few people are misunderstanding my point - patriarchy is not something that makes anyone cheat, but here and in particular nandini's case her upbringing is responsible for this disaster. We all know she has cheated, who is disputing that?

To say her family wanted a quiet child is illogical. That upbringing made her what she was, allowing a man to take charge. First it was daddy dearest, then Rajdeep, and now finally kunal. Dad didn't speak to her unless he wanted something - how will that make anyone confident about themselves? Yes we all get to speak at school, but how many of those kids excel? Here Nandini went to school and followed Mauli again a strong person. Does anyone know what she wants? Many will say kunal which at this point is sure looking like that then why be upset if Mauli found out? She got what she wanted so why not be happy and party?

Her husband dictated her married life, who helped her? Mauli. Then kunal baddgered her until she gave in. A strong, independent woman, who is not bound by a male privileged mindset will slap him and move on like Mauli did to Rajdeep but what did Nandini do? She took his hand and came back. How can you not see that?

You guys keep saying she is enjoying sex, hugs, and coy looks? Why shouldn't she? As far as she is concerned kunal has it figured it out. We know he is an idiot but to her he is not. She is of course responsible for her actions but her actions manifest from her childhood which was highly regressive. I don't know her education level but I doubt she has a degree, she latches on to people.

Normal person when caught in an affair will worry but here she says I cannot live without either!!!!! Does that sound normal to anyone? Would a strong woman say that?

It's easy to say it has got nothing to do with her background, finding cure is useless unless disease is figured out. Someone says that the law talks about woman being man's property - that's a joke right? And if it's an old English law, well Britain has certainly changed their stance, guess no one gave India the memo.

At the end of the day we are not going to agree, which is fine. I usually don't engage with people who call others name, but I guess this is an exception. It's pitiful that to support once stance, means demeaning other and calling names to a fictional character- I have better things to do than engage with pseudo strong women. I will not engage anymore when a fictional character is called names - regardless of what she has done or not. My mistake that I thought that I will have an intelligent debate instead of this tripe.

Originally posted by: Pani.Puri

I dont get this that why all the bill is on the name of Kunal??? Nandini is not a 7yr old kid who doesnt know what is right or wrong.. Forget this... OK they had sex in the heat of the moment or vulnerable state or situation was like that etc etc etc.. But after the deed was done did she show an ounce of guilt that oh what have i done?? Chalo leave all this also.. Few days back KunDini met in some cafe or restaurant right?? WHY???? Why dint she outrightly rejected to come to the cafe and told Kunal that no we have already done wrong with mauli so now i dont want to commit another crime. Lets tell mauli everything bcz we're her culprits etc etc... Or after the deed was done she could take some time to comprehend the situation and then call up kunal and tell him that we shold tell mauli the truth bcz I cant live in guilt.. Whatever will be Mauli's decision afte that I will face it but I cant cheat on my best friend and blah blah blah.. She dint do any of these , instead went to meet Kunal at cafe or restaurant or whatever it was, kept her head on his shoulder etc etc.. Kunal is anyway a looser and not to be trusted guy.. He was in his senses still he did but later he felt guilt but still he met Nandini... On the other hand Nandini did that in the state of vulnerable position later on when she was in her full senses she dint felt remorse and yet she went to meet Kunal and keep her head on his shoulder/chest whatever it was... Both the party are equally at fault... So ppl need to stop putting all the blame on Kunal as if Nandini everytime was in state of intoxication therefore hd zero hand in the EMA... Sex ke maze dono ney liye hai toh bill ek ke naam ka kyun phatey??

Originally posted by: evenjleena28

It appears that few people are misunderstanding my point - patriarchy is not something that makes anyone cheat, but here and in particular nandini's case her upbringing is responsible for this disaster. We all know she has cheated, who is disputing that?

To say her family wanted a quiet child is illogical. That upbringing made her what she was, allowing a man to take charge. First it was daddy dearest, then Rajdeep, and now finally kunal. Dad didn't speak to her unless he wanted something - how will that make anyone confident about themselves? Yes we all get to speak at school, but how many of those kids excel? Here Nandini went to school and followed Mauli again a strong person. Does anyone know what she wants? Many will say kunal which at this point is sure looking like that then why be upset if Mauli found out? She got what she wanted so why not be happy and party?

Her husband dictated her married life, who helped her? Mauli. Then kunal baddgered her until she gave in. A strong, independent woman, who is not bound by a male privileged mindset will slap him and move on like Mauli did to Rajdeep but what did Nandini do? She took his hand and came back. How can you not see that?

You guys keep saying she is enjoying sex, hugs, and coy looks? Why shouldn't she? As far as she is concerned kunal has it figured it out. We know he is an idiot but to her he is not. She is of course responsible for her actions but her actions manifest from her childhood which was highly regressive. I don't know her education level but I doubt she has a degree, she latches on to people.

Normal person when caught in an affair will worry but here she says I cannot live without either!!!!! Does that sound normal to anyone? Would a strong woman say that?

It's easy to say it has got nothing to do with her background, finding cure is useless unless disease is figured out. Someone says that the law talks about woman being man's property - that's a joke right? And if it's an old English law, well Britain has certainly changed their stance, guess no one gave India the memo.

At the end of the day we are not going to agree, which is fine. I usually don't engage with people who call others name, but I guess this is an exception. It's pitiful that to support once stance, means demeaning other and calling names to a fictional character- I have better things to do than engage with pseudo strong women. I will not engage anymore when a fictional character is called names - regardless of what she has done or not. My mistake that I thought that I will have an intelligent debate instead of this tripe.

Originally posted by: g.sreedurga

Excuse me! Sorry for coming in! I understand patriarchy. I understand Nandini is extremely dependent woman. This is a legitimate reason for her submissiveness to Rajdeep, being dependent on Mauli, being introvert, timid etc etc. But how's this patriarchy concept even connected to EMA? As far as I understand, people from conservative background are even more particular about such things and would never jump into something as disgusting as this.

That lusty pig Kunal has proposed her. This ma'am accepted in her full mind and senses. That lusty pig had sex with her. He didn't rape her. This ma'am thoroughly enjoyed it and even after that she was in a state of bliss. What's this 'who started love?' ?? He didn't pull her forcibly into love. It was her choice too. The only point where she was forced was when she was about to leave the city. She could still refuse to budge but okay, let's say she's not confident and patriarchy might come into the picture there. Except for that nothing, I repeat, nothing was forced on her. Accepting his proposal, kheer, asking him to stay more, having sex, calling him to park, romancing even after that - every damn thing was done by her will and wish. That too with happiness. It's not like he imposed on her and being a woman with low self esteem she budged. Patriarchy can't be pulled into this please!

And some people are saying he 'used' her??? How come? She was misinformed about his marital status or what? Or did he promise her before having sex that he'll marry her? Madam realized her love because of baba ji, it's not that Kunal hyponotized her saying she loves him right? Or did he actually use her for physical pleasure without informing her or her consent? When both of them had consensual sex, when both of them felt equally blissful, how has that become 'use'?

That characterless man broke all the sacred vows. This characterless woman literally stamped the life of someone who actually gave her a new life. How disgusting is that! I don't know why are people even arguing Kunal is worse or Nandini is worse. From the proposal scene, both of them are equally disgusting. The moment they slept with each other, they proved they deserve to be loathed as much! Either of them is not any less to the other! If few people want to somehow emphasize more on only one of them giving other reasons like 'psyche' or 'victim', it's utter nonsense. All those things may be true but they aren't the 'cause' of EMA. The cause is the selfishness and lust of those two divine people. As simple as that.

Originally posted by: WhyHate

She basically wants to keep both Kunal and Mauli and wants Mauli to forget that she saw Kunal and Nandini together. She wants to continue on behind Mauli's back and pretend to be guilty, but just really enjoy herself. That's what she wants.