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mango

@mango.falooda

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Posted: 6 years ago

#521

Originally posted by: pamk06
@mango_pudding: I seriously do not know what was the purpose of that whole scene. It was a disaster from start to finish. Initially I thought it was to show a mirror to Kunal but then there was no impact at all on both of them.It was like they were fine before that and they were fine after it. The only thing that was awesome was Mauli's dialogues. They have kept her intact so far. I was so irked with those dialogues about career women vs traditional women. I so hope men do not choose the women on this and their attire and look beyond it. I would have preferred their friends pin-pointing and talking about K and M wonderful relationship, their bond, how beautiful it was rather than stereotyping the women and the affair. It would have had more impact on Kunal and would have been more real.

@summerrain7 -- pamk06 put it better in bold. am not sure why the friends were immediately jumping to stereotyping the affair. do think that nandini's choice of dress was very intentional by the CVs because they were trying to show that a different image of the other woman. usually, the other woman is dressed as a kind of vamp in western clothing while the wife is super traditional with the pallu on her head or something... so they wanted to show that the other woman is not how we typically assume. what I was confused is why the friends were talking about the dress and career instead of the relationship between kunal and mauli.

like you said, his type seems to be the meek woman but I was confused from the perspective of the friends. were their dialogues confirmation that everyone knew mauli wasn't his type? there were issues in the marriage like her working and not having time for him which did bother him and friends were aware of that?

also when they showed the scene of him talking to the friend, kunal's advice seemed strange -- "so what if you don't love her? marriage is a commitment." or something like that... what I thought odd was the stress on commitment and how you are just supposed to stick it out regardless of if you hate it. what does that mean from kunal's end? so he was unhappy but felt committed to stay and that was his view?

am reminded of this reality show that I watched a few days back where this friend was telling this guy that marriages will have ups and downs. when he first got married, there was a huge high and you think that it is the best thing that happened. then over time with daily life stressors, there can be dips and then you have to work on the relationship. he then asked the friend on how he plans to work through those dips and communication etc. see, that is sensible advice right? someone who acknowledges the good and bad but also points out how to work through it...

pamk06 -- was super sleepy during his dooriyan speech but it is confusing. see, all the CVs have to do is to show some flashback scenes from his perspective. they can make it clear that the initial scenes we saw were from mauli's perspective. so if we saw contrasting views on the same scene, then his dooriyan speech would make more sense. but then again as it was pointed out earlier, this is a daily where they re-write according to TRP and so perhaps, we should lower our expectation for coherence? 😆

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chulbuliladki

@chulbuliladki

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Posted: 6 years ago

#522

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

taking a break from the serial for some time. there seems to be no movement in the track. perhaps, when there's actual change to discuss, the thread may become active again. :)

I see the thread active today and it feels good to see you guys discussing the show again :) Was missing your analysis and I am glad I will be getting to read hem again even if briefly 😊

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

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Posted: 6 years ago

#523

Originally posted by: koel_01
Show doesn't makes sense now, i appreciate efforts of people here.
But it's also clear that they are trying to white wash Nandini.
Too late, should have made sense from before.
Revealtion was best chance too do it, many people too were switching in, the writer and maekrs could have worked on Kunal and nandini's character there, But no, a month almost was spent nowhere. the show is loosing its appeal and viewership and its too little too late.

true. there have been negative characters/villains who have made more narrative sense even when we don't agree with their choices. am not sure if they are trying to white wash nandini or create conflict and controversy so that people will keep watching and yelling at the tv! 😆 ...

but at least on my end, real life is super busy at the moment and staying up to watch at 11 is not becoming possible especially when the story seems to be going in circles. so the time slot may be another issue for viewership falling.

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SummerRain7

@SummerRain7

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Posted: 6 years ago

#524

Originally posted by: pamk06
@mango_pudding: I seriously do not know what was the purpose of that whole scene. It was a disaster from start to finish. Initially I thought it was to show a mirror to Kunal but then there was no impact at all on both of them.It was like they were fine before that and they were fine after it. The only thing that was awesome was Mauli's dialogues. They have kept her intact so far. I was so irked with those dialogues about career women vs traditional women. I so hope men do not choose the women on this and their attire and look beyond it. I would have preferred their friends pin-pointing and talking about K and M wonderful relationship, their bond, how beautiful it was rather than stereotyping the women and the affair. It would have had more impact on Kunal and would have been more real.

@summerain7: I just wrote about the "dooriyan" in other post. Even if there was a gap in their relationship which frankly he did not realize till Nandini came into picture, he should have taken the steps to analyse why he is having those feelings and why he is being pulled away from Mauli instead of running away from those feelings or trying to suppress them. But once he started walking towards Nandini, there was no turning back for him. I would have liked it more if he had acknowledged that he was the reason for the gap not been bridged or the vast distance between them or for the sorry state of that relationship. He cannot talk about it to anyone, but Nandini could have been that person where he could have just tried to analyze on what went wrong. That would have been more in line with their relationship than all the romance. I am yet to see that all out emotional one to one talk between these two.

I really do not know what to tell about Nandini. Nothing is penetrating that bubble and as you say, I am not sure why she is not admitting the fact that she cannot have both in the life. I think they have brought the focus back on the friendship because only that can shake her enough or is significant enough in her life to make her realize that the path that she is walking is not the right one. She is just being delusional at this moment. It almost as if she is taking one step forward and two steps back in aligning with reality.

I guess the last two weeks they were just testing the waters and now they have come back to the original script where they are making Nandini choose between two important things in her life. The birthday party is a plot point and though from Mauli's POV, its not the right thing, from Nandini POV, she is just trying to do something that she always wanted to do for her friend which matches with her delusion that everything will be Ok. Since the revelation, Nandini has only seen Mauli anger but now when she actually witnesses the pain behind the smile, it might be an eye opener hopefully. Hope is the key word here in this show. This should have happened after the revelation itself, or during the whole Mata ka Jagaratha. I guess they also delayed to show us the depth of current K and N relationship as well the past K and M relationship.

Frankly, I am just sticking around to see how they are planning to end this current track. Its the test of my patience at this moment and I hope Nandini sticks to her decision. TRP does not sway her 😊

Exactly Pamk06 - That conversation between Kunal and Nandini should have ideally taken that route, but sadly it didn't. This show is all about surface emotions, no one's talking about anything, not even to themselves. Sometimes I feel the makers set out to make this show with just a few scenes and situations in mind, with no backing of logic or deeper emotions. Anyways, let's see how this train wreck proceeds further.😆

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SummerRain7

@SummerRain7

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Posted: 6 years ago

#525

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@summerrain7 -- pamk06 put it better in bold. am not sure why the friends were immediately jumping to stereotyping the affair. do think that nandini's choice of dress was very intentional by the CVs because they were trying to show that a different image of the other woman. usually, the other woman is dressed as a kind of vamp in western clothing while the wife is super traditional with the pallu on her head or something... so they wanted to show that the other woman is not how we typically assume. what I was confused is why the friends were talking about the dress and career instead of the relationship between kunal and mauli.

like you said, his type seems to be the meek woman but I was confused from the perspective of the friends. were their dialogues confirmation that everyone knew mauli wasn't his type? there were issues in the marriage like her working and not having time for him which did bother him and friends were aware of that?

also when they showed the scene of him talking to the friend, kunal's advice seemed strange -- "so what if you don't love her? marriage is a commitment." or something like that... what I thought odd was the stress on commitment and how you are just supposed to stick it out regardless of if you hate it. what does that mean from kunal's end? so he was unhappy but felt committed to stay and that was his view?

am reminded of this reality show that I watched a few days back where this friend was telling this guy that marriages will have ups and downs. when he first got married, there was a huge high and you think that it is the best thing that happened. then over time with daily life stressors, there can be dips and then you have to work on the relationship. he then asked the friend on how he plans to work through those dips and communication etc. see, that is sensible advice right? someone who acknowledges the good and bad but also points out how to work through it...

Bold - I agree that, in effect, what they are showing is the opposite of the stereotype that the other woman is always the one who is typically clothed in revealing western-attires.

But this is again another stereotype that no matter how modern and liberal the men project themselves to be in this day and age, deep inside their hearts they still prefer a homely woman with traditional beliefs and outlook. So Nanidni's dressing and personality has to be in line with this narrative. You may call this as an assumption or interpretation of mine, but I was forced to reach this conclusion as the makers themselves have not given us any other solid base for Kunal-Nandini's love.

In fact , Mauli herself believes that this is part of the reason why he swayed . And these friends whose loyalties are clearly with Mauli ( the victim here) are not going to search for any depth in Kunal's affair with Nandini. So the sari-bindi waali line, as irksome as it is, is still in line with the narrative. The scene though was OTT , I agree.

And let's not talk about Kunal's advice 😃 He is the most CONPHUSED soul on Indian TV.

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@pamk06

Dazzler

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Posted: 6 years ago

#526

@summerrain7 : Yes, as viewers and from Mauli POV it makes complete sense that we would think that Kunal attraction for the major part was the traditional attire. They have brought it up many times.

The point is that how do the friends know what her personality is or if she is career-oriented or no? This was the first time they were meeting her and just by looking at her, how did they come to the conclusion that she does not have a career. Politics itself is an example of many women who are career oriented and wear saris. That is what we are objecting to. They compared career to attire which have nothing to do with each other. People who know Nandini doing it is Ok but complete strangers making the comparison just did not sit well with me.

Frankly right now, I think Kunal is the only person who knows what he wants, rest all along with CVs are confused on what they want to show. I think they started well but they gave it to the audience and TRP demand and bulldozed everything with speed which they went through all the phases. Ekta has spoiled us so much that bullet train does not work any more, we need the slow local train 😆

@mango_pudding: This Nilesh knew that Mauli was not giving time to Kunal and he had brought that up in their confrontation when Kunal was giving him lecture.

Totally agree, all they need is some flashbacks showing there was a difference of opinion between them but he just smiled through it even if he did not agree, places where he just gave up to maintain peace or compromised or wanted something but Mauli assumed he wanted something else and got him that, was angry but had self talk that marriage is a commitment. They are continuously showing Mauli side of happy things, if they can also show his POV with a different perspective, it would put to rest a major chunk of the argument that this show is facing and give us our answers.

PS: So Mauli will be pregnant 🤣 Ye kab hua or may be they used the Bees and Flower method 😉😆. or is this like the marriage news that Nandini refused?

Edited by pamk06 - 6 years ago

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music_l0ver036

@music_l0ver036

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Posted: 6 years ago

#527

I can't believe Mauli is going to be pregnant. It's so sad because as a lot of people have pointed out, Mauli stopped the birth control after the affair started or at least after Kunal started having feelings for Nandani. I can't believe they had sex afterwards. I hope they show us flashback of when it happened because it logically does not make sense.

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@pamk06

Dazzler

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Posted: 6 years ago

#528

Originally posted by: music_l0ver036
I can't believe Mauli is going to be pregnant. It's so sad because as a lot of people have pointed out, Mauli stopped the birth control after the affair started or at least after Kunal started having feelings for Nandani. I can't believe they had sex afterwards. I hope they show us flashback of when it happened because it logically does not make sense.

She removed the contraception after the affair started and that was an operation. So no way she was pregnant at that time and they have not been intimate since then as far as the audience knows. Their affair started almost before Janamastami. Janamastami to Dusshera is a two month period. During this whole time Kunal was shown to be uncomfortable whenever Mauli came near him in that sense. If they have done something in this period then Kunal will be crucified because during this whole time he was giving promises of his so called divine love. I so hope this is a trick because this does not make sense and it even does not fit in the cinematic liberty category.

Unles they show it happened after the Bhang episode and he does not remember but that would be so not like Mauli. Let's see how they explain this

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rajh

@rajh

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Posted: 6 years ago

#529

Originally posted by: pamk06

She removed the contraception after the affair started and that was an operation. So no way she was pregnant at that time and they have not been intimate since then as far as the audience knows. Their affair started almost before Janamastami. Janamastami to Dusshera is a two month period. During this whole time Kunal was shown to be uncomfortable whenever Mauli came near him in that sense. If they have done something in this period then Kunal will be crucified because during this whole time he was giving promises of his so called divine love. I so hope this is a trick because this does not make sense and it even does not fit in the cinematic liberty category.

Unles they show it happened after the Bhang episode and he does not remember but that would be so not like Mauli. Let's see how they explain this

@bold

this is biggest possibility --

and mouli has no reason to say no at that time--

now if mouli gets pregnant then kunal going to doubt mouli character also ..and it will add more drama to serial [ this same track happened in serial - punar vivah - where gurmeet dose not know what happened between them but krutika gets pregnant afterwards..]

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-Lehar-

@-Lehar-

Inactive

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Posted: 6 years ago

#530

Originally posted by: rajh

@bold

this is biggest possibility --

and mouli has no reason to say no at that time--
now if mouli gets pregnant then kunal going to doubt mouli character also ..and it will add more drama to serial [ this same track happened in serial - punar vivah - where gurmeet dose not know what happened between them but krutika gets pregnant afterwards..]

Wasnt mauli very upset seeing both dancing ..donguys think in her upset state also she allowed him for the intimation?