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Posted: 1 years ago
#31

Jai shree Ram good morning

After yday reading views here there I m still having questions on agni pariksha

First valmiki ji describe in detail about ramji harsh words to sita. Woh kyo kiya. I mean ramji ko sab adarsh purush maante hai, bhagwaan mante hai aur woh hi itne katu vachan bolenge toh unki image kharab hoti hai. Toh Aisa kyo likha

Dusra why was agni pariksha even allowed. Ok PPL talked and raised questions so unka answer kar sakte the in some other way.

Duniya ko samjhana hai Jo log sawal karte hai toh jawab agni pariksha ke siva hona chahiye tha na.

Us yug se is yug toh yahi chsl raha hai

Ramji ne kiya toh theek hum kare toh galat yeh thinking ho gayi hai sabki.

Mera to sarr chakra gaya .

In fact agar Rcm ne chhaya sita mention Kiya and agni was only to get asli sita back toh woh fir bhi samaj aata hai .

Ramji ko itne kathor vachan na bolne padte na . Vaise toh swastik Wale kuch bhi mix kar dete toh yeh version dikha dete. Yeh trigger nahi karta fir

Posted: 1 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Fir maryada Kahan rahti. Ram killed the ego and arrogance of ravan not the rakshas himself.

Adharm ka naash Kiya tha na

I was just saying about this show, not the real Shri Rama.

Posted: 1 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Jai shree Ram good morning

After yday reading views here there I m still having questions on agni pariksha

First valmiki ji describe in detail about ramji harsh words to sita. Woh kyo kiya. I mean ramji ko sab adarsh purush maante hai, bhagwaan mante hai aur woh hi itne katu vachan bolenge toh unki image kharab hoti hai. Toh Aisa kyo likha

Dusra why was agni pariksha even allowed. Ok PPL talked and raised questions so unka answer kar sakte the in some other way.

Duniya ko samjhana hai Jo log sawal karte hai toh jawab agni pariksha ke siva hona chahiye tha na.

Us yug se is yug toh yahi chsl raha hai

Ramji ne kiya toh theek hum kare toh galat yeh thinking ho gayi hai sabki.

Mera to sarr chakra gaya .

In fact agar Rcm ne chhaya sita mention Kiya and agni was only to get asli sita back toh woh fir bhi samaj aata hai .

Ramji ko itne kathor vachan na bolne padte na . Vaise toh swastik Wale kuch bhi mix kar dete toh yeh version dikha dete. Yeh trigger nahi karta fir

Res

Will try to answer tomorrow

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Posted: 1 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: ananya3129

I was just saying about this show, not the real Shri Rama.

Yes tabhi mere dimaag mein bhi yahi aaya tha on show

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Posted: 1 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Jai shree Ram good morning

After yday reading views here there I m still having questions on agni pariksha

First valmiki ji describe in detail about ramji harsh words to sita. Woh kyo kiya. I mean ramji ko sab adarsh purush maante hai, bhagwaan mante hai aur woh hi itne katu vachan bolenge toh unki image kharab hoti hai. Toh Aisa kyo likha

Dusra why was agni pariksha even allowed. Ok PPL talked and raised questions so unka answer kar sakte the in some other way.

Duniya ko samjhana hai Jo log sawal karte hai toh jawab agni pariksha ke siva hona chahiye tha na.

Us yug se is yug toh yahi chsl raha hai

Ramji ne kiya toh theek hum kare toh galat yeh thinking ho gayi hai sabki.

Mera to sarr chakra gaya .

In fact agar Rcm ne chhaya sita mention Kiya and agni was only to get asli sita back toh woh fir bhi samaj aata hai .

Ramji ko itne kathor vachan na bolne padte na . Vaise toh swastik Wale kuch bhi mix kar dete toh yeh version dikha dete. Yeh trigger nahi karta fir

Goodmorningggg, Jai Shri Ram smiley9

I am going to sneak out and refrain from responding to this because you know we both have similar views smiley36 though I've read VR and over the years come to terms with slightly accepting what was done and why .. I don't think I can explain it to someone. One part of me remains conflicted.

I'll wait for the other geniuses on here to shed light! smiley10

Edited by RamLakshman - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: RamLakshman

Goodmorningggg, Jai Shri Ram smiley9

I am going to sneak out and refrain from responding to this because you know we both have similar views smiley36 though I've read VR and over the years come to terms with slightly accepting what was done and why .. I don't think I can explain it to someone. One part of me remains conflicted.

I'll wait for the other geniuses on here to shed light! smiley10

Me too will wait

Our dear friend ramaayenge and ananya explain Karenge

Surprise I never thought of this during previous ramayan coz they showed chhaya sita part

But question was why valmiki sort of tarnished ramji image.

Or i m missing something

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Posted: 1 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: chatterbox

Me too will wait

Our dear friend ramaayenge and ananya explain Karenge

Surprise I never thought of this during previous ramayan coz they showed chhaya sita part

But question was why valmiki sort of tarnished ramji image.

Or i m missing something

Valmiki loved drama, he was male Ekta Kapoor of Treya yug. Why would warriors give 10 pages long bhashans amid fierce battle otherwise?

Disclaimer: this is just a sarcastic take. I respect Valmiki and his Ramayan a lot 🙏🙏

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: chatterbox

Me too will wait

Our dear friend ramaayenge and ananya explain Karenge

Surprise I never thought of this during previous ramayan coz they showed chhaya sita part

But question was why valmiki sort of tarnished ramji image.

Or i m missing something

I will try to just clear misunderstanding on sage Valmiki now😀....

Actually Valmiki ji is sage not poet,,,Rishi ko Raja ka darr nahi hota tha likhne time par...jo hua tha woh likhte the....woh to keh hi nahi rahe ki bhagwan ki kahani hai....woh apne samay ke mahan vyaktitva ki kahani likh rahe hai....jisme se do's and don'ts dono sikhne hai....Ramji ne kahe Katu vachan to kyu na likhe woh???To fir Sita ka Lakshman ko katu vachan and Lakshman ka Bharat par doubt, ahilya event aise bahut se incidents hai jinhe dilute kar dena chaahiye tha....par it's not abt Balck and white.....rakshaho ka galat part likhenge to sahi kuch ho to woh bhi batana hai .....same way protagonist side itna gungaan karte hai sahi decision and actions ka to agar koi galti yaa controversial part hai to woh bhi batana jaruri hai.... protagonist hai to galti batayenge hi nahi...yeh to bias hua na..... actually biased hum hai....bcz hum conditionally hamare bhagwan se do's sikhne ko ready hai.... don'ts accept nahi kar paate,it's our social upbringing.....tabhi to aajkal debates discussion ke scope and platforms kam hai....actually in epic,all of them r humans,,,best of best humans may do choices which seems wrong today or which r actually mistakes...to yahi reason hai ki Valmiki Ramayan and Vyasa Mahabharat most authentic raw, unfiltered versions hai itihaas ki drishti se.....ab sab poets ki tarah bhaktikavya hi likhenge to actual truth by virtue of events and situations kaise samaj aayega....it's not abt devotion,,,it's abt characters and situations and reactions which may be rightor wrong on any part be it protagonist or antagonist....krishna therefore says in Geeta after imparting all knowledge to Arjun ki sahi Lage tumhari mati ko to mano...mein keh raha hu bhagwan keh rahe hai isliye nahi manna hai....To Ramji ne kahe hai kathor vachan to whitewash nahi kar sakte.....jaise Raavan ko whitewash karne ki koshish sahi nahi hai....waise hi protagonist characters ke controversial events tone down nahi kar sakte actual book mein just for sake of feelings bcz that is piece of History which will teach next generations....so reshi ko chinta nahi hai kiski kya impression banegi....woh jo darshan Kiya woh batate hai....Hume samajna hai ki kya sahi,kya galat,kya sahi hoke bhi irrelevant in today's time etc etc...

Agni Pariksha is not at all accepted by anyone,even Gods scolded that part when they appeared to stop siya maa when she was just abt to enter pyre to say she was chaste....serial makers show literal wali Agnipariksha but literally nahi hua tha...maa was confident enough of her chastity so she was ready to enter and moment she was abt to enter,all gods came screaming and stopped her ki there is no need....though I am also not supporting Agnipariksha,,we can understand ShriRam's point but can't agree with it as I feel example set karne ka chance tha...nahi maangte proof to new example set hota.... mushkil hota but waise bhi kya aasan tha unki story mein .....ek raja ke pass hi chance hota hai change laane ka...praja ko sikhane ka kaam bhi to Raha ka hai....but just my pov,pata nahi us time ki need kya hogi.... Agnipariksha is sad and disappointing matter always.

Edited by RamAayenge - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
#39

Kya baat hai itni si chhoti ho gyaaan ki baatein kitna mast explanation diya.

Yeh sab baatein mujhe yahan se hi samaj aati hai

Pehle toh bas dekh liya karte the

Jo bhi kaha sahi kaha.

Ajeeb zarror hai kyoki aaj ki viewpoint se dekh rahe hai

Woh waqt hi alag tha

Thank you so much for explaining

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Posted: 1 years ago
#40
You are right ,but I'm glad they didn't copy this word to word from the epic.Not that I'm against it but the series goes against this particular aspect the whole time.Adter the agnisakshi ,Ram said that he always knew that Sita was not to be blamed.But I'm glad they are least gave an explanation about his decision. Vaise bhi they have diverted a lot from the original.But at least the makers gave the context to his hard decision. They just spelled it word by word for the audience .

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