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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

Anokhi was looking for a "promise of study" and asking for "permission to study" while the Khannas are asking to be upgraded from business to first class. Their hesitation should be a sign of how much they value education. And for Mr. Bhalla to say that after marriage, the saas, sasur, and Monty get to decide what Anokhi does. Is she a person or a play thing you're handing over? I'm a little salty they played "Din Shagna Da" for Dolly's bidaai while everyone looked so morose. I would've loved the song for ShaKhi.


Imagine how many years Shaurya has been waking up his dad and taking care of him. Seeing the photos, the love notes, then alcohol all scattered. No wonder he's so mad at Aastha. She left, but she took the essence of Shaan as well, and left Shaurya truly alone. "Jisne chalna sikhaya, usine ungli chod di, family thod di" Shaan is the example Shaurya doesn't want to live up to.

Shaurya's adarsh shaadi ka misaal is Tejvi. Is he wrong? It's the only successful marriage he's witnessed. Devi did point one thing out, that for an adarsh shaadi, women have to compromise. No wonder Shaurya's head is filled up with that nonsense. There's no perfect relationship without compromise, but one sided compromise does not make a perfect relationship. Also, perfection is overrated! I liked Devi's affirmation that "jab woh perfect ladki tumhare saamne aayegi na, tum bhi na nahi karpaonge".....and Devi won't have the power to break them up either!!


Side note: All the talk about wedding expenses remind me why I'm a big supporter of a quick wedding at the register office!! My definition of 'chat mangni, pat byaah'


Precap: Monty/Anokhi Roka! Aastha/Shaurya confrontation!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#12

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Originally posted by: AK_2010

I felt angry and sorry for Biji.

Why did you feel sorry for her? I was angry when she spouted off stuff about saving her necklace for her grandson's wife. Then continue to make fun of how little Rama brought with her in jewelry and dowry. I don't like how mothers of sons talk as if they supplied that Y gene and they did a great thing by birthing a male.

For women like her, suffering bring no awareness... I am sure, she must have felt the humiliation, violence and inequality in her lifetime as well. But it didn't make her sensitive to the suffering of her DIL or grand daughters...

The conditioning she has had over the years had let her think it's okay to be submissive and helpless in front of man, coz that's how women should be... She greyed her hair thinking that her grand-daughters will be no good to her son....

Went as far as emotional blackmailing Babli to have a child with her abusive husband... 😐

This series paints the true image of out society. The one that exists beyond our digital screens where such rigid patriarchy is a reality of many woman.

This makes me the saddest. We discuss on here about the conditions and traditions in society. But most of us here are so privileged to not have to experience the full blown reality. I'm not minimizing our own experiences but I couldn't even imagine how it must feel to be constricted by all the rigid rules of society. There's many trapped and see no way to change their circumstances, there's the matriarchs that continue the patriarchy, and then the ones that break away but have to pay the price of being rebels in society.

Some are like Aastha and Anokhi, who struggle to break away.

Some like Babli and Rama, who cannot break away.

And some like Biji who live under the stone and ignore it all the way.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: saakkabc

Bms preachings against Astha and Shaan’s condition have left a deep scar on Ss. He is confident to choose a girl who keeps him above everything, little does he know that when he truly falls in love he would keep her dreams his top priority. He relates everything to his dad and mom and makes sure he doesn’t suffer through the heartache that his father is going through. Shaans outlook here is completely different to Ss’s. While shaan finds solace and thinks of those memories as his survival mechanism, ss thinks otherwise and feels that is what has caused his dad to suffer.

Does he think that true love can be forgotten by returning something materialistic like cards? What about the feeling of true love in your heart for the one you adore(if at all)? He could’ve thrown them away as well but wanted to hurt and insult Shagun in the process so sent them. His continuous staring at phone with the anticipation of a call/ message shows his desperation for attention or say to know how successful he was in hurting her even after he let go of her. BM is full on throwing attitude as if they are doing a favour to Shagun by not cancelling her seat at Cambridge. His ego is given a proper boost and assurance that he isn’t at fault by BM when she says all this.


Biji is so an example of what generations of patriarchy had made women into. Submission. It’s a shame that she being a woman straight away favours her grandson over grand daughter and dismisses Rama’s request to give her necklace to Anokhi. There is no feeling of equality at all. It bothers me that whatever generation women belong to how can you be so indifferent when you are being treated inferior.

Mr Bhalla is ready to take loans and sacrifice everything for the sake of marriage? Why? Usually people do these out of love but Mr Bhalla.. I don’t think so. Wants to get rid of another burden from his shoulders and he is confident of clearing all loans using his sons degree. Does he truly love his son? Did he ever think if his son was capable enough to reach his expectations?

Also he is unhappy that his daughter is so ungrateful to such a parent who is shipping her off to Canada. Does he think getting married to an NRI is the only dream his girl has? He very well knows what she wants, so how could he expect her to be grateful for something she isn’t happy with?

After seeing all these episodes in full I hate that Mr Bhalla has been redeemed so easily and even BM.

Shaurya is such a petulant child. He's hurting because Shagun didn't place him first and he's out to hurt her just as bad. He did that with his mom too. He goes into his patronizing, holier than thou mode attitude to avoid feeling. He clearly never loved Shagun if he thinks returning notes and pictures and cards is how you cut out someone from your life. It may be cathartic for some to burn those things though.


Biji really irritated me! She's been brainwashed by society that she did something great by birthing two sons. And her son gave her a grandson who gets all the unequal love in her heart. She knows that boys are the only ones that are a return on investment in society. I also don't understand why a woman would encourage another woman to be voiceless and to submit.


I'm with you on the Mr. Bhalla hatred. He's a despicable man who should not have been redeemed!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: anuprem

Rama is happy that Anokhi's marriage is fixed. So surprising. Is she not worried that they have not done any background check of Monty and his family and Anokhi would be very far away from them after marriage. And he is only 10th pass. Do Anokhi's parents even know about his qualification? Is just a NRI tag enough for them?

BM wants Shaurya to have an arranged marriage now. But Shaurya is too disturbed to think about marriage. He needs some time. And he considers his BM and BP's marriage as an ideal marriage. I think that is the only successful marriage that Shaurya has seen. BM just wants a daughter- law whom she can control. She is not bothered about Shaurya's feelings.

Even though Shaurya is angry with his father he feels bad for him. He feels his father's life was wasted because of his mom. When he sees that his father is still living in the past he decides to return all of Shagun's gifts back to her. He just wants to move on fast .But it was really easy for him to do because he never really loved her.

Mr Bhalla is worried about the demands from Monty's parents. But still he is least concerned about his daughter's life in Canada. And he wants Anokhi to be grateful to him for this marriage. I don't know how Anokhi could forgive all his mistakes so easily in the end.

@bold: As an NRI, I totally think that is the main card that is played in the marriage mart. Indians have a skewed outlook on the Indian diaspora, especially those in UK, US, or Canada. They're considered successful for just emigrating. I think the Bhallas are believing the Khannas at face-vaule. As this point the holy grail is the NRI; It's what makes him the most qualified in Ramesh head.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: black.snowflake

Shaurya - Shaan...you really don't know who to feel bad for ? A son waking up an alcoholic father or a father wanting a sons acceptance. From the looks of it, it was not the first time for either of them. The scene was so nuanced. You don't see such scenes often. It was completely grey. The unfairness stings.

I can't seem to feel bad for a man who didn't support his spouse and then neglected his child. I could forgive Shaan for being a bad husband if he even tried to be even be a mediocre dad. His grown child continues to indirectly seek his attention and acceptance and all Shaan can worry about is his Noor and their memories.

The way devi drills entitlement into shaurya...no wonder he had a certain thought process. Bhau like qualities...right...

Both Bhalla senior and devi feel that women should be indebted when married into a rich household. Different backgrounds, same thoughts.

YES!!! Ramesh think the Khannas are doing a favor and Devi thinks the Sabherwals were doing a favor. You can't buy class or progressive soch with money!

Again some foreshadowing

The trinket falling onto anokhi's head..who knew at that time, it was for someone else only. Also, how devi said that Shaurya would not be able to refuse when he saw the girl...yes...infact he was so not able to stay away that he played the sindoor holi🤣

I had the same thought. She unknowingly gave that blessing on ShaKhi.

Also she has her entrance and shahan on same day and asks the same question...how will both happen.

Ooooo great catch!!!! Shagan and test and she had to choose! Shaadi and exam and she didn't have to choose. That's why Shaurya was her worthy partner!!!

Edited by mallukumari - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#16

Managed to watch the episode quite late in the night. All the time my heart was crying out for Anokhi. Nobody cared for what she wanted when a Canadian decided he wanted her as his wife. the way Raja and vineet were fawning over Monty was cringeworthy. It is so obvious, they already had plans of following Anokhi later on.

How could a mother not listen to her daughter. Rama was all tears thinking Anokhi would be leaving soon but all excited about the wedding.

I cannot now understand the stubbornness of Anokhi and her fights for her right to education. She wants to be free from the shackles of her present home, and be free to choose, to live her life.

The grandmother treats her granddaughter as a good for nothing. Women are the worst enemy of women.

Now coming to Shaurya and his tantrum of sending the cards, that was childish of him, showing the pettiness of the Sabherwal trait.

He may feel that keeping them he may end up like his dad, but he could just have thrown them away. So in a way he wanted to hurt Shagun, because his ego has been hurt, by her choosing her education over him.

As for BM, she sure is a 'namuna'. She believes they have great dignity by not cancelling Shagun's Cambridge plan by phoning or whatever, my my Mrs high and mighty takes Cambridge for a joke or what.

The most absurd part is panning to marry Shaurya as there are some good candidates in the market...

Sotoday felt really sorry for Anokhi and annoyed with Shaurya. As for Papaji and Rama Bhallah, they have failed Anokhi.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranpri

Managed to watch the episode quite late in the night. All the time my heart was crying out for Anokhi. Nobody cared for what she wanted when a Canadian decided he wanted her as his wife. the way Raja and vineet were fawning over Monty was cringeworthy. It is so obvious, they already had plans of following Anokhi later on.

What is it about NRI culture and UK/US/Canada/Australia that is so appealing?

How could a mother not listen to her daughter. Rama was all tears thinking Anokhi would be leaving soon but all excited about the wedding.

I cannot now understand the stubbornness of Anokhi and her fights for her right to education. She wants to be free from the shackles of her present home, and be free to choose, to live her life.

I think this is why when people complain that Anokhi lectures too much and fights too much, I get really annoyed. She takes a monumental step in her life for her freedom and education. If she hadn't she would be a slave to the Khannas in Canada.

The grandmother treats her granddaughter as a good for nothing. Women are the worst enemy of women.

Now coming to Shaurya and his tantrum of sending the cards, that was childish of him, showing the pettiness of the Sabherwal trait.

He may feel that keeping them he may end up like his dad, but he could just have thrown them away. So in a way he wanted to hurt Shagun, because his ego has been hurt, by her choosing her education over him.

Righttttt. He was such a child. Putting up this indifferent façade but looking to take his anger out on Shagun in such a petty way.

As for BM, she sure is a 'namuna'. She believes they have great dignity by not cancelling Shagun's Cambridge plan by phoning or whatever, my my Mrs high and mighty takes Cambridge for a joke or what.

I laughed so hard at that dialogue. Tej could cancel a university acceptance in UK with a phone call but they had a hard time in Goa trying to arrange ransom money. The Sabherwal name didn't reach outside of Chandigarh to Goa but somehow wields power in the UK?

The most absurd part is panning to marry Shaurya as there are some good candidates in the market...

Sotoday felt really sorry for Anokhi and annoyed with Shaurya. As for Papaji and Rama Bhallah, they have failed Anokhi.

Edited by mallukumari - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: mallukumari

Anokhi was looking for a "promise of study" and asking for "permission to study" while the Khannas are asking to be upgraded from business to first class. Their hesitation should be a sign of how much they value education. And for Mr. Bhalla to say that after marriage, the saas, sasur, and Monty get to decide what Anokhi does. Is she a person or a play thing you're handing over? I'm a little salty they played "Din Shagna Da" for Dolly's bidaai while everyone looked so morose. I would've loved the song for ShaKhi.

I detest Monty’s fam with all my heart …the makers didnt step back at making an absolute caricature of the ladke wale with the uppity attitudes and downgrading a girl’s worth by comparing the family’s wealth. Anokhi’s zeal to study is truly inspiring!


Imagine how many years Shaurya has been waking up his dad and taking care of him. Seeing the photos, the love notes, then alcohol all scattered. No wonder he's so mad at Aastha. She left, but she took the essence of Shaan as well, and left Shaurya truly alone. "Jisne chalna sikhaya, usine ungli chod di, family thod di" Shaan is the example Shaurya doesn't want to live up to.


So true! No wonder he was so bitter with Aastha, and to a certain extent I felt like she deserved it too. As a mother I fail to understand what might’ve compelled her to not have fought for her son legally. We were severely undersold on Aastha’s backstory. Along with Shaurya, there was an even greater change that we witnessed in Shaan. Shaan 1.0 was so dull and lifeless, makes one feel unnecessarily sorry for him 😁

Shaurya's adarsh shaadi ka misaal is Tejvi. Is he wrong? It's the only successful marriage he's witnessed. Devi did point one thing out, that for an adarsh shaadi, women have to compromise. No wonder Shaurya's head is filled up with that nonsense. There's no perfect relationship without compromise, but one sided compromise does not make a perfect relationship. Also, perfection is overrated! I liked Devi's affirmation that "jab woh perfect ladki tumhare saamne aayegi na, tum bhi na nahi karpaonge".....and Devi won't have the power to break them up either!!

@bold 🙌🙌 True that

When Devi spoke of women making compromises, it’s so unfortunately true. This is how society sets expectations of an Adarsh bahu, both men and women are equally at fault.


Side note: All the talk about wedding expenses remind me why I'm a big supporter of a quick wedding at the register office!! My definition of 'chat mangni, pat byaah'

Haha.. yeh best hain! I’d want a small temple shaadi or an intimate backyard wedding.


Precap: Monty/Anokhi Roka! Aastha/Shaurya confrontation!

😍😍🙌🙌 Bring it on!

Henlo ji! 😎🌚🌝🙈❤️🤗

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: mallukumari

I laughed so hard at that dialogue. Tej could cancel a university acceptance in UK with a phone call but they had a hard time in Goa trying to arrange ransom money. The Sabherwal name didn't reach outside of Chandigarh to Goa but somehow wields power in the UK?

🤣🤣🤣 Burn!! They’ve reduced Cambridge to apne gully ka tuition center.
(Psst are we supposed to play ignorant about the future episodes? 🙄😁)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: rumi_dee

Henlo ji! 😎🌚🌝🙈❤️🤗

I detest Monty’s fam with all my heart …the makers didnt step back at making an absolute caricature of the ladke wale with the uppity attitudes and downgrading a girl’s worth by comparing the family’s wealth. Anokhi’s zeal to study is truly inspiring!


So true! No wonder he was so bitter with Aastha, and to a certain extent I felt like she deserved it too. As a mother I fail to understand what might’ve compelled her to not have fought for her son legally. We were severely undersold on Aastha’s backstory. Along with Shaurya, there was an even greater change that we witnessed in Shaan. Shaan 1.0 was so dull and lifeless, makes one feel unnecessarily sorry for him 😁


@bold 🙌🙌 True that

When Devi spoke of women making compromises, it’s so unfortunately true. This is how society sets expectations of an Adarsh bahu, both men and women are equally at fault.


Haha.. yeh best hain! I’d want a small temple shaadi or an intimate backyard wedding.

Well back to commenting Dee!!

That's the right word. The Khannas are a caricature of that NRI family. The sad part is that the Mr.Bhalla is not even showing any concern for his child, instead he just wants to get rid of her.

Shaan 1.0 came to life when he got that call from his Noor. He lit up, pun fully intended! How sad that he was never able to do that for his son.

We really needed that Shastha back story!


I love the idea of a small wedding. I wish I had fought for that more. My parents really wanted a wedding in India but being the oldest and probably the only child to get married in India(I don't know if my sister will marry or want to get married in India), I gave into all the societal stuff. I did the full dhoom dham wedding with 800 guests. I don't have any real regrets because the hubby and I had a small legal wedding in the US anyways, which held more importance. And I get to celebrate two anniversaries...double the gifts!!

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