HaYa..Those Haunted Memories of Broken Trust - Page 2

Originally posted by: Estadra

thank you Jyoti for nice post.

Originally posted by: --Aleena--

Firstly the promo that had been on-air for a week clearly indicated rift between Harman Saumya and in Monday epis Harman broke all ties with Saumya before having an accident !! this is what i said, the week was v.typical with high voltage drama but trp remained constant...this is why i conclude pplz did not like this fight...& everyone behaving badly with saumya!!

the youth on social networking sites love this type of trackz , i dont understand why,😕 but their choice ... i think if the male lead is bad since day 1 then it may make sense if he does not believe is wife ... 😕

here the character of harman is totally different

he loves and supports saumya alwayz

so if he hates saumya or behaves badly this will look out of place...

this is not how his character is shown to be ...

this is the problem

when u luv someone how can u not trust them or know that saumya's intention was not to hurt him or their relationship

he is also smart enough to understand that saumya is pure hearted and fooled by pplz

she was easily blackmailed by preeto during bangkok track...

I dont like the writers to mess up with the characters they have made since the beginning of the show...

Harman was never a typical male lead who behaves badly with his wife...

I also dont agree that Harman woke up so trp will b better

trp will be better if the content will be better too

both harman saumya are equal part of the show

Originally posted by: Estadra

@--Aleena--

Oh no, I thought so, when Haya both upside down, it's better. TRP is better. The truth is, I did not realize that Harman a week before, did not help Souma in Poojo, but he asked her not to do it.

Yes that is my problem, many people on twitter say they are looking forward to Harman being like RK. But the RK was a gray figure. from the beginning. Harman is a loving husband. Rakshak. Hero. Souma did not commit the murder of him family. Yes it is a man, and he feels Souma betrayal, but everything has an explanation. I love Harman, but this is the first time I disagree. But I read twitter a lot of posts that people are enjoying. TRP should be OK. People are waiting for a strong Souma.

Will be Ok. 😊

Originally posted by: Flora15

Take a bow dearest Gago for this breathtaking take👏 👏 👏 really your thoughts echoed mine and reading your take I feel consoled as can't be that old flora who can write takes for many reasons. Thanks from buttom of my heart for all your efforts and efforts to make takes. Fewer who can be neutral and giving justice to the show and HaYa journey. Being biased to your favorite actor doesn't mean disvaluating or degradating the show he's or she's working in.

I'm Vivian fan and maybe you're Vivian fan but when i do debrief for any episode of the show I deprive myself being Vivian fan and my star is only a character ... I'm a just & frank person in real life and want be just in everything;even giving my POV ... It doesn't contrast with praising my star hardworking and his talent but it give an amazing image to my star himself... Shakti is a team work and my critics should be toward all that team work when do criticism. .. Shakti is HaYa journey and HaYa are the gem of the Shakti show.

Dearest freind as can't share a thread about My POV about HaYa allow me to share it here bcz can't share a post without interacting with people it's not good and wished I can but it's out of me.

My own POV about HaYa journey :it's concern only the people who love their journey and Value it

Who Are we to say Saumya didn't deserves Harman love😡Seems it's non sens Saumya MU Harman & it's reversal. Harman loves Saumya without no boundaries fighting for her, safeguarding her facing all kinds of hurdles. HaYa love story is pureful mixture of everything.. There's ups & downs, sweet&bitter moments, happiness & sadness, frustration & lots of things.. HaYa love showed lot of power as everytime bankprupt devilness .. Harman faced his wife rejections for his loves bearing all kind of pains but didn't stopped to get his love back.. He's gone to the extreme to get her back and I'll not recite Harman extreme fights to get her back.. When MU is cleared Harman faced with his wife a terrible truth that they can't be together and kinar deprive him his wife. He left his world living in kinar house passing painful inbelievable tests of love & even his wife passed tests with him. Both HaYa suffered a lot.. Now it's reversal Saumya will face her husband extreme hatred for MU but her love for him will be her strength and she'll fight for her love to win her husband back.. Love Is Love whatever is the condition.. It isn't easy journey.. The most the love story is painful the most it's great. It's HaYa journey, it's their love Story.. It's them who are living it.. It's them who are feeling what they're living.. It's their pains, it's their fights &... I really feel disgust when others by their Banbu POV spoil the beauty of HaYa journey and how pureful & unique is their love journey.. They're doing that for many reasons.. I'll not blame as it's their fanatim&egoism toward their stars.. They're only fan of their stars but never can be fan of HaYa love story. This POV is only for the lovers of HaYa unconditional & unbreakable love story who can break all odds.

I'm in love whatever is the condition & I believe in the strength of their love who face the greatest storms of life bcz they're two lovebirds in one soul and their love is carved in each Other.

Sorry my heart I feel it's needed that I vent my rage watching biased interaction spoiling the most purest love journey.. Both sides hiding themselves behind neutrality.. It's sad and frustrating watching that.. I'll give a personal example there's respect for dd but witnessing her too much ego and the rude way she's talking of star put a cross on her but never on her character Madhu..As Madhu is my beloved character with him my actor done one of his amazing shows...this the difference when u love a character even if u hate him your love for the character keep intact . This is how being neutral.. I never attacked DD even for her lower deeds but ignored bcz it will not add anything .. I want give an amazing image of my star maybe I retweeted her bad interviews showing her reality but it's limited. Insults are verbal violence and it's not my cup of tea.. Hate all kinds of violence...I'll not tell why too much hatred towards Rubi based in owns suspicions ... People can't do diffenciation between real life & a character . Is Rubi worst than DD?? I'll not answer .. Being biased, fanatics &egoist kill the show and degradate it.

About violence

I'll Say I'm against all kind of violence :Violence is multi-facetic.. It could be physical , mental , Verbal , religious , racial , it could be about nature... Violence haven't a certain social rank , haven't age &haven't color. ..Violence isn't related with a gender:It can attack all... What Harman will do with Saumya tell it mahandling or violence I'm not with but Harman is Right from His side and wrong for us as viewers bcz non can accept that .. I don't think that people who would enjoying Harman mistreating his wife rudely throwing her on floor want that happen for them or their relatives in real life... So please Wake Up.. What's is the difference between you and Shannou &Ravi who are enjoying sadistics pleasures .. Where's the human in you ? Where passed your hearts.. If in a show people are doing this nothing will surprise me watching too much violence in this world. Feel Sad

Harman isn't God and is a human sure that That haunted FB memories which are freakinghe very his soul shows that his soul is Dying Harman can't come out from that big shock he received. The old Harman is dead and sure when he'll get his memory back due to that MU of breaking trust and feeling that he failed making his wife feel complete like any woman will act in such manner. As have experience with psychology I'll say Harman who loved Saumya till the extreme;his Hatred will be Ruth till the extreme.. Harman even if he'll be ruthless or heartless he has inside his Soul that carved love.. Harman will have a tough soulful fight with himself to make Saumya out his life and erase her from his soul going till the extreme with his hatred and everytime increasing the dose.. Harman is doing that as he's wrong for us as viewers who are watching not for him. Harman even can't forget that big shock that he watched with his own eyes :his wife broke his trust & going them made him feel that his love is failure and didn't succeeded making her as any normal life... Harman is ruined.. On the other side Saumya is herself dead inside her soul and her heart is pierced witnessing who much her husband is hurted soulfully and suffering big shock of his life.. Saumya is heartbroken as her husband who used loving her can't bear her presence.. Wish I do a long interpretation for the two episodes talk about both of HaYa but I haven't efforts for that and what I'm talking is important. Saumya is equal to Harman she's dying.. How heartwrenching the scene when her husband didn't recognize her it's like a knife who crossed her heart, her happy face transformed and tears rolled deliberately in desblief.. I don't think there's another big punishment for her than that... She even cried her heart on his feet when he's sleeping for that big punishment. Both VivIna are phenomenal in showing strong mixture of big emotions... Can't stop myself praising the perfect execution of the FB twice.. I cried my heart laudly watching both VivIna... Harman was like a dead without any kind of expressions just hearing the sound of the panicked and get a big shock watch the blurred FB memory OMG how real look his state of panick.. It's big physical and mental pains performed perfectly 😭I felt he's agonizing.. The second one is allucination and is tougher than the first 😭it's killed Saumya too.. I'll not repeat that bcz you explained it perfectly.

What I liked is Preeto also will be transformed to the extreme like her her son and u talked about.. The new Preeto will do the impossible to to keep Saumya in house and even bet with Singh Family who are plotting... She warned them that they'll watch her Rath if they do anything against Saumya. Preeto will be Berlin wall in Singh House for Saumya.. She'll be the Hitler... Preeto made Saumya understand it's her duties to take care of her husband... If Preeto is like that I'm waiting a strong Saumya.. A big believer that her love is alive in her Husband heart.. I want see the Saumya who took her love as her strength, stubborn, fierce and big fighter for her love... I want her with hock and crock doing the impossible to win her husband trust again clearing the MU.. I want her face Harman rejection & hatred strongly showing her love and forcing herself as his wife... I want Saumya go to the extreme in that.. Everytime we say it's her extreme but she'll show an other extreme act... I want watch big monologues given to Harman to connect with him... Hope CVS will not butcher Harman like they done in Sauumya's MU... It's needed..i'm waiting lots of things from Saumya I sketched and from Harman two... Should be frank we'll see a transformed HaYa and a transformed Preeto.
One more thing the transformed Preeto shouldn't showed dominating the show and coming between HaYa... Helping,consoling, safeguarding, encouraged or giving some plans but never should be the shadow of HaYa as HaYa should deal their Matters together.. It's their journey, their problems, their MU and everything should be between them no third party.. It's another big test for the strength of their love who is unbreakable as it's tied by the Great who made them each other destiny.
Track is promising and have big potential ;I hope CVS concentrate on HaYa making them centric, waiting good excution with important monologues showing all Harman's emotions ;hope makers put an end to the dupe comerce in HaYa scenes as it's spoiling the beauty of the scene, waiting balanced episodes with less side chars drama & the drama should be good and convenient to the topic.

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Flora very well said ..

For me Shakti=HaYa irrespective of whose fan I m because I m not the kind of fan who will b happy to see my fav actor romance even a pillar .. I need to love the jodi to b able to connect to the show or else I wont watch even if its my fav actor's show .. I even follow this logic for my fav actor Aamir Khan .. So here even though I m a Viv fan more but for me Shakti is incomplete without Harman and Saumya .. both r strong pillars of the show and both Viv and Rubi r doing a grt job and r equal trp contributing factors in the show 👏 .. So after 2 yrs of journey , I will not even question Who deserves whom just because of some silly misunderstanding tracks in the show which r brought only to increase the number of episodes 😆 .. I know after every misunderstanding their love will only grow stronger than before , so the question of whether Harman deserves Saumya or Saumya deserves Harman often asked by their individual fans is not even a question for me because of course they both deserve each other or else Shakti serial would never b made in the first place 😆😆 .. Harman cannot really fight for kinners if he dont fall for a kinner girl and then accept her wholeheartedly for life nor can Saumya start living like a normal human being in this society unless she finds acceptance and love of a normal guy who will treat her like any other girl .. Thats the whole concept of the show , so this silly question of who deserves whom dont even rise here ..

Now coming to the violence part , I already had a huge debate about it on twitter 😆 ..I will anyday call it manhandling which can b rectified and redeemed but domestic violence is something that we saw in shows like saubhagyavati bhava on lifeok which can neither b rectified or redeemed nor can b forgiven .. What Harman did was manhandling and I hope they show a scene later where he feels extremely bad and hurt about it .. Its important to show a character's emotion after such an act ..

About Harman is human and not God part , I will say its more or less fault of the CVs who created a Godlike character in Harman who is flawless from every angle and Viewers hv been seeing Harman like this for over 2 yrs now , almost like a God for Saumya .. So when suddenly CVs r trying to prove that he is not God but a normal human with flaws , its becoming difficult for general viewers to digest it easily because they r not used to see this side of Harman .. We get accustomed to something over the years and when suddenly we r told it was never like this and we will hv to change our view of seeing it , then its not possible to get used to the change overnight .. So CVs hv to b really careful when they show this complete new side of Harman .. Fans will overnight accept it but general viewers will take time .. So for the viewers who r seeing it like any other show , its important to show his side of pain and emotions too along with his anger and rudeness so that they can connect to this new Harman ..

With Saumya it was easy to accept her with flaws because right from beginning we r seeing her like this who is insecure about her identity and always wants to sacrificie in the name of Harman and his family's happiness .. Right from Trio to Bangkok to this Puja , CVs hv consistently showed her like this .. So from here if she rectifies her past mistakes and becomes strong , then it will b upward trend for her which viewers will easily accept .. But for Harman its gonna b the opposite as he was already perfect in every department till now ..So to show him making mistakes out of extreme hurt and anger will b a downward trend for him and thats where viewers will find it hard to digest unless its properly justified in the episodes with proper monologues and scenes where he might even hurt himself physically to show his side of pain and emotions ..


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Thanks for this fabulous replyI 👏It totally agree with you

Originally posted by: --Aleena--

@Jyoti This is where my problem lies

If makers have written a character like Harman they should care about the sentiments of the audience too

In my opinion when you are in love with someone you r ready to accept their flaws and forgiving forgetting is the first thing to follow

In good situtations your partner is always by your side

but the real test comes when in a worst situation your love is tested

and if you partner fails to give you support in the worst situation

then its not true love

Harman is supposed to be a good and smart husband

I dont expect him to be God like

He can have flaws and have emotions too

but he is crossing the line

he is ready to break all ties with Saumya , what if she also leaves?

Infact looking at his behaviour the best option for saumya is to leave him ,especially if we want to see a strong Saumya

He can be angry , stop talking to her or even maintain his distance from her..fight like a normal couple

but give her a chance to atleast listen to her point of view also

I dont understand

how can he actually believe that Saumya will harm their relationship intentionally?

When u luv someone u also have the courage to forgive them!

Extremely disappointed with this track

Originally posted by: drama_queen123

Lovely post and I honestly am not watching the next few weeks episode as it's too harsh for me to digest the treatment saumya will be getting.

It's really cringe worthy scenes and track of Harman hating saumya without hearing her side and even if he is pissed because she should not have gone there he needs to know no matter what physical insecurity does not go away since all your life you dad hates you your in-laws hate you and society too tearts you like dirty and filth. When saumya was working as maid she was kicked out because she is a kinnar. Love can win battles yes but deep rooted physical insecurities don't disappear with love.

Harman needs to tone down his anger and not kick saumya out over this. I don't agree with this treatment. Fine he can stay made at her and not talk to her or look at her and be indifferent but taking kasam that he no longer loves her throwing her stuff around and tell her to Leave the house is bad.

All saumya life everyone wants her out of their house be it her dad or in laws and now her husband too where will she go back to kinnar house? Does a wife or shall I say women not have a house that she can call her own and no one tell her to Leave no matter how grave a mistake maybe? I'm not defending saumya but seeing all her life is getting rejected and one person accepts you who are but there others like ravi shanno making her feel like sh*t and the insecurity will not go away because it's there subconsciously whether she thinks of it or not. Best thing for saumya is either accept herself or have sex change and become a women and lead a normal life because this is unhealthy and toxic level of family she has. And sex change is not a bad thing it's a personal choice and what makes you happy. If she is able to have kid of her own after the surgery then great because that's what she wanted through out. Harman accepted her as kinnar why not become a women and take her journey from there because even after surgery people will treat her badly like ravi they will always see her as kinnar.

Originally posted by: --Aleena--

@Jyoti This is where my problem lies

If makers have written a character like Harman they should care about the sentiments of the audience too

In my opinion when you are in love with someone you r ready to accept their flaws and forgiving forgetting is the first thing to follow

In good situtations your partner is always by your side

but the real test comes when in a worst situation your love is tested

and if you partner fails to give you support in the worst situation

then its not true love

Harman is supposed to be a good and smart husband

I dont expect him to be God like

He can have flaws and have emotions too

but he is crossing the line

he is ready to break all ties with Saumya , what if she also leaves?

Infact looking at his behaviour the best option for saumya is to leave him ,especially if we want to see a strong Saumya

He can be angry , stop talking to her or even maintain his distance from her..fight like a normal couple

but give her a chance to atleast listen to her point of view also

I dont understand

how can he actually believe that Saumya will harm their relationship intentionally?

When u luv someone u also have the courage to forgive them!

Extremely disappointed with this track