Harman's Truth Vs Saumya's Late Realisation:My View

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Finally I can say I loved the last 2 episodes because I could finally see a progress in the story with Harman telling Saumya about his fears and Saumya finally realising her mistake 👍🏼 .. Yes the realisation came late but at least it came 😆 .. Though Preeto is still a hurdle between HaYa , but I m glad at least the story is moving somewhere with Harman finally setting Saumya free and now its Saumya's turn to win her love back by defeating Preeto .. For once I will not go by spoilers or misleading promos because I know HaYa will hv to reunite and defeat Preeto as CVs cannot show Evil win after 9 days of Navaratri Puja 😃 ..

I will divide my take for last 2 episodes into 3 main parts .. First Part will b about HaYa confrontation after Harman tells her the truth .. Second Part will be about Saumya's Late Realisation about her mistake .. And Third part will be about Harman's Emotional & Angry Outburst ..

HaYa Confrontation after Harman tells her the Truth :
So finally this suffocating MU track comes to an end as Harman tells Saumya about kinner's death truth which gave rise to his fears of loosing her , reason why he refused to reveal her identity .. So finally Saumya knows that Harman was never scared of society's acceptance but he was only scared of loosing her 😭...I actually loved the conversation between HaYa after He reveals her the truth because for the first time I felt both actually had a matured conversation over this issue like two adults instead of just fighting or blaming 👍🏼 ..I know most of us expected Saumya to instantly realise her mistake and hug Harman ; Mayb Saumya too was about to do the same as soon as he told her the truth and we could see Saumya's moist eyes filled with love and regret after knowing the entire truth , but then she remembers Preeto's words and steps back from doing so ; But after that I actually liked the matured convo between HaYa the way they discussed this whole issue of his fear vs her identity .. This discussion actually made me think that even if this MU is sorted today but the underlying tension related to her identity and his fear will actually remain until and unless there is a permanent solution for it 🤔.. .. They might reunite right now but again in future this issue related to his fear and her identity might crop up unless there is a proper solution for it .. This is where I feel CVs r not showing us a HaYa reunion unless the underlying issue of his fear and her identity finds a permanent solution 🤔 ..


Let me talk about Harman's POV first .. Harman's fear of loosing her actually shows the extreme to which he loves her because unless there is a fear of loosing your loved ones , you cannot really feel the depth of your love ; I really felt bad for him when he finally leaves Saumya's hand and tells her that " I can live staying away from u , but I cannot live loosing u " 😭 .. He can afford to stay away from her for whole life but he cannot afford to loose her to death after revealing her identity to the society ; He clearly told her he is not afraid of her truth but he is afraid of the consequences that will follow after the truth is revealed which is right on his part as he is thinking like a protective husband here who wants to safeguard his wife's identity ; Saumya is well aware of his weakness and thats why she played the poison card by threatening to consume poison if he force her to come with him and thats where Harman finally accepts defeat in front of her as her life is more precious than his happiness 😭 ; But I feel someday Harman will have to overcome this fear of his .. I m not saying he should not fear loosing her because like I said , where there is love , there is always fear of loosing that love but at the same time when the same fear starts haunting you everyday and even becomes a roadblock in your relationship , then one should confront the fear and try to overcome it instead of just putting it aside thus giving a scope for the same fear to reappear again in future 🤔 ; Saumya does hv a point when she told him that its not necessary whatever happened with the other kinner , will happen to her too ,so thats where he need to overcome his fear ; But at the end of the day his love for Saumya is so strong that he is not able to fight this fear of loosing her forever .. He is even ready for separation but not ready to loose her .. The day he is ready to take the gamble and confront this fear , we might finally see a permanent solution to this problem ..


Coming to Saumya's POV , though I expected her to instantly apologise to Harman after knowing his reasons , but some of the points she actually made were quite logical here .. She said that she knows Harman loves her very much and thats why fears for her life , but its her fault that she could not really reduce that fear of his in all these months ; She also told him that her identity is precisely the reason of his fear and today even if they brush aside this fear under the carpet and start living together like before , there is no guarantee that the same issue and same fear will not haunt them in future again which is quite a valid point 🤔 ; She said this after remembering Preeto's words that birthday night because she indirectly tried to indicate Harman that his own family which also represents a part of this society will not let them live in peace unless this problem of her identity gets a permanent solution which is actually true because we know Preeto will not stop with her planning and plotting as long as Harman's fear remains his biggest weakness 🤔 ; So there is a reason why she remembered Preeto's words and stepped back instead of hugging Harman even after knowing the truth and the reason is not that Preeto's words matter more to her over Harman but the reason is Preeto who also represents the society will not stop harassing them and putting hurdles in their relation until and unless his fear and her identity finds a proper solution ; But since Harman was not ready to overcome his fear , Saumya thought the best option is to leave so that at least he can come out of this fear and gets some peace .. But this is where I feel Saumya's thinking is wrong too because running away from your loved ones is not a solution either 👎🏼 .. If Harman need to overcome his fear , then Saumya too need to overcome her insecurity and develop courage to accept the love of a man instead of always playing the victim card because of her identity .. Instead of always running away from him , she can be with him and give him the courage to fight the society because thats what a wife does ...


So all thanks to this HaYa convo post truth revelation , I can actually understand the underlying reason why this MU is brought in the first place .. Its not as simple as he tells her the truth , she feels sorry , both reunite and story over .. The main issue is actually the acceptance of a man and kinner relation in society which needs a permanent solution and this is what the CVs r aiming at when they show this HaYa MU and separation .. Harman is right when it comes to safeguarding his wife and Saumya too is right when it comes to fighting for her identity .. But Harman is wrong when it comes to not confronting his fears and trying to find a shortcut for it which wont work in long run and Saumya is wrong when it comes to running away from the problem and trying to take all decisions on her own without involving her husband in it .. In between both if I hv to compare both , I will say Saumya is more wrong as she is often coming under the influence of evil people like Preeto instead of keeping faith on her husband whereas Harman is at least trying to fix the issues in their relation with her support .. At the end of this track , I feel Saumya will b fighting to win her husband's love back and Harman will b finally ready to confront his fears by revealing her identity .. This is what CVs mayb aiming at and so not showing a HaYa reunion yet 🤔

Scene when Saumya leaves with Saya without looking back while he kept standing with a hope that she might turn back and return to him was a heartbreaking moment 😭😭 .. She feared that her heart will melt forever if she turned back and so with a heavy heart she left without turning back but he was confident that she will return one day as he goes onto tell Surbhi that Saumya is not some losttime who will never return back ..Hats off to his self belief here because in the next scene itself we saw Harman's belief was right as Saumya had a late realisation finally and was all set to return back if Preeto dint stood there like a wall before her ...So this shows how well Harman knows his Saumya 👏😳...



Saumya's Late Realisation : Here I feel CVs showed late realisation because like I said above , they dont want to show the HaYa reunion yet without fixing the underlyng problem of his fear and her identity .. If she realised her mistake instantly , then they would hv reunited yesterday itself and the track would hv been over but Preeto's plotting in Singh house would hv continued as usual thus resulting in their next separation😆 ,...Thats why to make sure this problem finds a permanent solution including Preeto's exposure , CVs dint show the reunion yet and thats why her realisation came late after Harman left 🤔...

Though it was a late realisation but I sort of liked the fact that she herself admitted she was dumb and brainless not to realise Harman's love and instead kept running away from him when in reality she too loves him a lot and so running away from problems is never a solution 👏 ; Also she admitted that she was rude to him for no reason when he always kept his patience intact with her and even went onto tolerate all her wrong doings .. So at least she realised and admitted that it was all her mistake as she never tried to understand or know his reasons .. For me this confession was enough or else Saumya would hv been permanently butchered for me 😆 ; And I really loved the way she finally confessed that she too loves Harmanji and started running towards Singh House 😳 .. Many might hv not liked that she realised it late but I feel for the sake of future story telling this was done .. They wanted to show that Saumya will go through same fears of loosing her loved ones that Harman was going though all this while so that she can further understand the depth of his fear and thats why Preeto will now threaten her by using her family 🤔 ; Harman's fear of loosing her forced him to keep quiet and now Saumya's fear of loosing her family will force her to stay away from Harman , its karma in a way and she might therefore realise the depth of Harman's fear now as Preeto will make her go through same phase of fear ..


It remains to b seen how both HaYa fight their respective fears and defeat the evil to finally find victory in their love ...Yes Saumya will hv to defeat this fear called Preeto now and stand for her love Harman .. Harman too will hv to defeat the nightmare of kinner's death and stand for the change that only he can bring in this society by fighting for kinner rights .. Most important both together need to expose Preeto and begin this positive change ..

Rubina was really good with her emotional outburst today when she finally realise her mistake of always running away from the person she loves the most ...Also loved her silent act when her eyes got all moist after he tells her the truth and was about to hug him till she remembers Preeto's words , the transtition from going all soft to cold again in split sec was really well done by her ..

Harman's Emotional & Angry Outburst :
Best scene of last 2 episodes was undoubtedly the scene when Harman brings sweets for Preeto and forcibly feeds her in anger followed by gifting her plates to bang them and celebrate 😆 as finally she got what she wanted with Harman leaving Saumya ; Harman was at his angry and sarcastic best when he himself started banging the plates for Preeto 😆 and then gifting the same plate to Preeto by telling her she can happily celebrate her son's defeat now ; Vivian was excellent in the scene with his eyes spitting fire as he gave that intense look of disgust to his mother because he knows she will get sadistic pleasure seeing him separate from Saumya ; He indirectly told his mother that she might hv won this round but she definitely lost her son's love and respect today 👏


Precap shows how hurt and suffocated he feels without his Gulabo 😭 ..He wants to burn all her memories not because he hates her but because he dont want to see her in front of his eyes as her face might b still haunting him everywhere in the house 😭...And he is deliberately doing all this in front of his family as he wants to make a point that look finally u all succeeded in driving your son mad and making him self destructive


Vivian was excellent with the way he emote through his eyes whether its showing his pain when Saumya left him or whether its showing his anger and disgust towards his family after returning home ...And also the way he does his voice modulation from going all soft in emotions while leaving Saumya's hand and asking her to live her life 😭 to going on a high pitch tone while being sarcastic with his mother yet making sure his every dialogue delivery comes out clear is really praiseworthy 👏👏

So these r my views about the whole Truth revelation , Harman finally setting her free and late realisation of Saumya .. 😳

Coming to the Kidney fiasco , I felt it was a silly twist just to show a stupid mahasangram with Savitri devi show 😆 ..It made no sense the way hospital directly went onto operate Saumya after a small blood test without even taking the consent or sign of any of her relative which is legally wrong 😕 ; If Harman wants , he can sue the whole hospital for it 😆 ; Also I dint like the way Saumya went onto refuse that she is his wife in front of other doctors and then he had to show the picture proof of their marriage ..Very uncalled for 👎🏼 ; Also the whole public humiliation where Saumya told Harman he is heartless just because he dint allow Sauyma to donate her kidney for that mother's son was not needed ..Its like deliberately projecting Saumya in negative light which I dont understand why 😕 .. Anyways Harman instantly proved that he has a heart of gold when he not only decide to give 25 lakhs to that mother after she found a new donor for her son but also he went onto pray for the quick recovery of that mother's son 👍🏼 ; Harman was even ready to donate his own kidney but he knew Saumya wont allow that either ..How well he reads Saumya's mind 😳 .. Only if Saumya could open her eyes and see what a gem of a husband she got 😳 ...


Coming to Preeto , she is no less than a lady don who can come and go anywhere and everywhere 😆 ; She can magically arrive on the middle of the road to blackmail and threaten Saumya .. She can hire henchmen at the drop of a hat and do accidents .. She is a superwoman with a broomstick with which she can fly anywhere and everywhere without anyone noticing her .. What a talent ..woww 👏...But CVs need to remember that her superwoman Don skills will only reduce the trps 😆 , so its better she gets exposed in front of Harman before its too late 😳


Now that Harman has finally set Saumya free and Saumya too has realised her mistake , I want and hope she fightsback for her love and not let Preeto win this time ... Preeto will try every possible way to pressurise and threaten her , but its upto Saumya how she fights for her love this time .. Its time for Saumya to prove her love for Harman ...Once she does that then I will expect HaYa to fight the society and Harman to overcome his fears finally .. I hv faith on Preeto too because whenever she goes extreme with her planning-plotting , she always falls flat on her face and ends up reuniting HaYa 😉😆😆 .. Last but not the least , plss return out old smart and intelligent Harman back who can easily sense when Preeto is doing what 😛



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Posted: 7 years ago
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HI Jyoti.
Well written dear👏
Honestly I found saumya sudden or late realization a bit wierd but may be I understand her emotions now .
Harman was broken 😭 and Vivian was just amazing in the episode. 👏👏 really praiseworthy performance. How he taunted his mom and family is so hurting to see. But evil preetho will not melt. 🤢
As u sad,both haya should overcome their fears to get a permanent solution for this. I wish saumya overcome Preetho and thus help Harman to heal and finally reveal the truth to socity .
Hope this ends by navaratri and haya will face the society after the truth comes out.
And as Nani said, surbhi shout stay away and leave saumya alone to cope up with her problems.😕
It's difficult for saumya to stand against preetho alone.,but Harman love will give her the required Shakti to fight her and get back to him. ⭐️.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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thank you for amazing post

😳

I not follov episode, but I glad, you posts 😳


Preeto must be expose
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Finally u r back I want to u to make post on Thursday episode amazing word by word perfect analyse 👏 👏 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Super super review Jyoti...only you can make sense to
us when these useless CVs cannot make their point
come through well 😆

These lines: 👏

If Harman need to overcome his fear , then Saumya too need to overcome her insecurity and develop courage to accept the love of a man instead of always playing the victim card because of her identity .. Instead of always running away from him , she can be with him and give him the courage to fight the society because thats what a wife does ...


Love the way you described hurricane Harman when he returns home ... the contempt in his eyes/his stance as he forcibly
put that laddoo in Preeto's mouth...and brought that thali out
to bang...was too good...Vivian

Even I felt that kidney thing was so unnecessary...maybe just
added in for drama effect...but the insult of Harman was
totally uncalled for...good that they showed he rose up to the
situation.

Best of all mahan Surbhi did not have any role in disclosing the secret to Saumya...I hated that she learnt of it ... but not
Saumya...Now after watching the episode... it looks like those scenes just given to her for ss 😆


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I was not getting the reason of showing don preeto threatning saumya to kill surbhi n other members of her family... but thank u so much...u made sense out of it..that now she will have the same fear which harman is going through..but I doubt saumya can relate her fear with that of harman's...Till now only nimmi n harman had gone through this fear of losing saumya..now it's saumya's turn to go through this...but sad thing is that she will be shown fearing for the lives of her useless family...

I was very much convinced with whatever saumya said after truth revelation.. don't know why to some people she looked dumb here... Indeed she had a point n now let's see how cv take story ahead n how will haya reunite...n I hope they just don't waste entire track on silly closed door secret...

I hope we get a grand haya reunion on 9th day of navratri...just like last year...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks jyothi for your retake,Indeed it helped me to understand the story line better.

The late realization of soumya was shown only to add preeto angle to the story but not for the valid and sensible reasons you gave in your take.This Cv's dont have so much brains.😆
You have been very kind to them by analyzing everything in a positive way .we all know their talent to turn everything negative and ruin it.We knew that how they handled the most potential MU track, how they degraded soumya's character to such a level that people started hating her .😡
This new closed room track and gurumaa track will be no less to it .New promo and few segments say it all.
I must appreciate your faith on these writers after seeing their talent.
Anyways ,i too wish ,whatever you said will come true.fingers crossed.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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wonderful post and great analysis Joyti
but I don't think our CVs smart like think or think deep like you wrote

I can assure you that Somya will do nothing and Harman will do everything
Somya will obey Preeto and listen to every word she will say
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hilarious retake dear Gago👏 👏 👏 I really adored what you said ,you talked What is in my mind nicely ;i was mezmerized reading your retake it's like my spirit was talking but diffrently;I only have small diffence concerning Saumya .I relived every HaYa expression, every emotion , every dialogue , every eye lock every and reaction.First time I won't reinterpret what you said about Thursday episode.The tittle of the retake itself was talkative :Harman 's truth V Saumya 's late realisation.
Adored how you divided it in three part and i totally share with you what you said about this three parts .I'll say clinicly both HaYa have fobia: Harman, fobia of fear and Saumya, fobia of her identity who put her in big fear .Both of them must defeat their fobia to end together again.
Yes I loved too both episodes because I watched progress in the show ;even episodes look very hurtful to watch but the change and the progress have to pass throught tough moments.Yes i'm like you nor spoilers neither segments can affects me because Saumya will live throught Preeto's threatens same Harman's fears and she'll keep away from Harman . Preeto is threatning her with her family life.Harman is her life and her family means a lot for her;she have find the way to beat the devil Preeto.
Saumya must come out of that fear and fight making all Preeto's plots in dust.Harman too have to come out of the fear of the TG muder and fight for the kinar change.I watch that makers are treating the topic of the show witch is a man having relation with a kinar.
Really I find what makers showed us is very healthy and HaYa clearing the MU and their reaction must be this way as if HaYa return together Preeto will keep same and we will see HaYa separated again without any progress to beat their fobia .First, before their reunion HaYa have to come out of their fobia defeating Preeto ;as Preeto as representing a part of the society .
I must congratulate you about the interpretation of Harman saying the truth to Saumya and both HaYa point of view with the minimes details and i totally share that and hats of for the husband who care for his wife safety under his happiness freeying her👏Adored Harman confidence in his love and what he told to surbhi ; he was absolutely right bcz his gulabo make all her efforts for not looking back (if she do that she'll run directly in his arms), she too after her late realisation decided returning to him as she can't live without him.His heart never disappointed him and he knows her as he knows himself.
Gogo for me Saumya realisation begins from the moment when Harman freed her hand saying her to go and live as she wants ,she's free and he can live far away of her but he can't live losing her;from the moment he softly freed her hand; she 's shocked and her expressions are the proof .Here it's her heart who was beating for Harman ,he wants freeying himself from her mind.Saumya When leaving refused watching behind her as she fears from her heart.Just when she's alone she breaks downs in tears and her honeymoon flashbacks makes her realise her husband love lately.She confesses that she's stupid and brainless for not understanding her husband and why she's runing from him if he's doing all of that for her .Saumya even said if something happens to her what will happen for him (she have same fear for his life)Saumya Understood that she can never leave without him and it was fabulous the way she's running in road to return to her hubby but she's stabbed with a sad thruth finding that nightmare Preeto .Saumya can't return to her love and this bloody devil is becoming more dangerous as she's threatening her with her family life .Saumya have to be away of Harman ,living his same fears and must beat this fear to return to her husband ;she must break this whall of china with her owns hands for her love. Yes my gogo both HaYa are wrong but for for me they 're equal because Saumya even can't run like this from her husband and must face that fear her fobia can't alow her doing that in this moment as her complexities are bigger but at least we watched her realising her husband love even lately.We have something to take it in mind witch is Saumya knowledge and her way to understand what is turning arround her.She's learning everything throught what she's living and passing.I 'm watching big progress in her character in this is good signs.Saumya is usually unders devils hands bcz it's the situation and sure she'll come out of that control fighting.
Vivian &Rubina have done an outstanding performance in Thursday episode especially Vivian in the outburst Harman he was phenomenal 👏 I have melted feeling watching performance crying for heartbroken Harman ;I even feared for him watching his reaction but in same time i adored his sarcasm returning house with sweets to his devils family and he have done rituals celebrations furiously in their behalf😭💔👏You interprayed that scene perfectly my dear but I was shocked watched his parents reaction and especially is cold mother with her cunning smile rejoicing eating the mitai😡🤢her son's hurt is bleeding pains after losing his wife giving her her freedom and is outpouring his rage because they're behind that but she's in cebration mood without feeling at least some sympathy. Adored what he have done for them bcz they deserve that; he don't need their acting and he have done an hilarious sarcastic celebration ventilating all his pains and rage on them as they deprived him his love😭💔😭Fell that Harman will turn their life in dailies nightmares as they turned they destroyed his life.
My dear this time didn't an interpretation for Thursday episode as you said everything and i'm waiting same things from both HaYa.What you said about Preeto oh yes they're showing her as the unbeatable super woman;don't be suprised if they're show her doing jado and transforming Saumya in a frog😆to make her winner😆She only need a crystal ball and a magic formula and we see the gratest jadokar Preeto😆🤣
It's time to expose Preeto making Saumya strong fighting with her for her love .Preeto's plans are alawys failing but they 're torturing HaYa and torturing as as viewers and it's to reverse the situation .
About Savitri hospital really even it look fiasco and silly for the majority I love it.Saumya selling her kindney how it look bad but I watched it for her as a necessity and won't analize more because feel you know what i mean.Savitri hospital episode contain a human message about donation.I'm against selling part of our bodies bcz it's a silly act but with donation as an humble human act.We can saving lives donating especially when the donator is no more.We can gives lives after our death why not thinking about donation.In our country we have the choice to put in our card identity the word donator and I put that on my identity card as I'll give lives to others even i'm no more.In the episode we watched to top of humanity through Harman thinking donating his kidney but he knows that Saumya will not allow him that and when the find a donator but that woman need more money Harman not only proposed giving money but he prayed for her son recovering 👏❤️👏
Saumya humiliation for her husband are hurting but She's showing her anger as he she failed freeying herself and he stopped her crazyness. But there a lot of questions about this savitri hospital episode:
How through a simple blood test the decide to do the operations😆 It look ridiculous.
How they decide doing that operation with any relative consent;it's needed in any operation .
there is no continuity because doctor Sanchi met Saumya twice (in savitri hospital and in maha aarti episode) she knows she's kinar when Saumya talked with her about her wish to do surgery to be a complete woman.
Anyway adored both episodes and thanks a lot for this retake who make me feel it 's my soul who interpreting
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Jyoti amazing analysis.
I have been a silent reader of your analysis and this is the first time I am commenting.
I love your balanced analysis of the show.
Thanks a lot.

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