HaYa...Good and Bad of Last 2 Episodes

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After heavy rains in Mumbai, due to Net Problem , I m not able to regularly do my takes , so my apologies .. Will do a joint take for both Wednesday and Thursday Episode ..

I hv mixed view on last 2 episodes , I absolutely loved few moments and disliked few too ..But before I write my likes and dislikes on last 2 episodes , I would like to tell the Creative team to please avoid using dupes/body doubles in HaYa scenes .. BDs/Dupes just reduce the impact of the entire scene .. Also please be more creative when it comes to HaYa scenes and move beyond hand holding and food scenes now 🥱 .. We hv enough of their hand holding and pulao romance .. Lets move beyond that .. And by moving beyond does not mean I m asking for adult bed scenes 😆 .. A simple trip-fall-catch scene too will look like a rarity in HaYa's case , so thats what I mean when i say move beyond just hand holding scenes .. I love when Harman holds Saumya's hand but I will not mind if after holding her hand , he also starts grabbing her in his arms , something thats common in every TV couple scenes , so yeah thats what I mean when I say just dont keep their scenes limited to hand holding only 😳 ..


There are 5 main highlights of last 2 episodes which I will mention in points below and what was the good and bad part in those 6 important scenes ..

1) HaYa in Factory Together ..

Whats Good :


I liked the fact that Harman again takes the 1st step to clear the misunderstanding from his side by taking Saumya along with him to factory away from Harak and Preeto , so that he can talk to her in alone and sort out their issues which I feel was a really matured and sensible step taken by him 👍🏼 ; Somewhere I feel just how Saumya is carrying the burden of her identity , similarly Harman too is carrying the burden of kinner's death truth which he wants to tell Saumya and till he clears it to her , he is sort of suffocating inside ; We as audience might feel why is he still making efforts to tell her the truth when she just dont want to listen to him , why cant he just ignore her 🤔 , but if u see it from Harman's point of view , then as a human somewhere he feels guilty too that he is not able to clear the misunderstanding while rest of his family members r having fun at the expense of their marital issues ; So no wonder he takes Saumya to office to clear his point which I feel is a very realistic and sensible step taken by Harman as its always important to sort out issues in private which is exactly what Harman is trying to do 👍🏼 ; Its his bad luck that Saumya here is acting totally immatured and just not giving him a chance to explain

I also loved that little moment when Harman was secretly admiring his wife's beauty as she falls asleep 😉😳 ; He was in no mood to read those files but instead wanted to just drool on his wife 😆 .. Loved how he puts his hand on her head and wakes her up .. Wish Dupes were not used in this scene 😡


Coming to the Meeting , Again Harman proves why he is husband goals ; While Saumya was handling the clients , instead of feeling insecure , Harman was actually admiring and appreciating his wife silently by giving that proud smile as she saves his reputation in front of those clients 👍🏼 ; Any man in his place would hv developed inferiority complex seeing his wife taking away all the credit in a office meeting , but thats where Harman is different as he does not hv any such insecurities when it comes to Saumya 😳 .. He felt proud of the fact that his wife stood up for his self-respect despite their ongoing fight 👍🏼 .. Once again Harman gives a beautiful social message that one should b always proud of their working wife and always motivate them to do well .. I loved how he later even thanked Saumya and motivated her for doing well in the meeting 😳 ; Its quite rare for a husband to actually thank his wife in such situation without bringing in his male ego .. Thats why Harman is a Gem ⭐️⭐️⭐️


I also loved how Saumya could not see Harman's insult in the meeting and stood up for him 👏 ..This again proves that no matter how much she pretends to hate him , her actions will always speak louder than her words 😉😛 ; Its not like Saumya is more knowledgable than Harman but its just that Saumya remembers how Chintu refused to play with a remote control car and based on that she tried to explain the clients how kids still love simple toys over high gadget ones , which is quite a smart presense of mind from her side 👍🏼 ; While his own Chacha was giving evil smile seeing Harman's insult in meeting , its Saumya who comes to his rescue and this is the reason why Harman has always kept Saumya above his own family members as today was another example of how none from his family will support him in times of crisis except Saumya

Whats Bad ..

It was all fine till Harman in his cabin tried to talk to Saumya to sort out their MU , but once Saumya started throwing things in cabin , Harman should hv gone in his Malik mode and asked her to leave instead of running behind her again ; I m saying this because just in previous episode Harman took a oath not to expect any wifey duties from her , so he should hv remembered that oath here 🤔 ; It looked quite inconsistent when he forgets that oath just in one day and against starts running behind her in his typical husband mode ; The more he runs behind her , the attitude she will throw on him which Harman needs to understand ; I also dint like how that random guy came to question Harman assuming he is misbehaving with a lady ; Thankfully Saumya said she is his wife but still the entire scene looked very odd as I was expecting a more firm and angry Harman after he took the oath 😒 ; Please avoid making him run behind her especially after he took that oath .. Instead he can do everything from appreciating her to caring for her to trying to clear out the MU but in Malik mode only


Coming to the Meeting part , While I loved the way Saumya stood up for Harman in the meeting and even Harman felt proud of his wife , but somewhere I felt this was done at the cost of compromising Harman's character and making him look like a fool who has no idea about any business related matters ; I know Chacha dint brief him about the meeting , but still when Saumya started giving her viewpoint about toys , Creatives could hv shown Harman too joining her and mayb elaborating Saumya's points further and then HaYa together giving the presentation which would hv been more apt 🤔

I always hated when Saumya's characters gets compromised to drag the misunderstanding .. Similarly I also hated when Harman's character was compromised just to show Saumya standing up for him .. Though the final outcome was really good as CVs tried to give a social message via Harman regarding how a husband feels proud of his working wife which is quite a rarity even in today's times especially in rural areas of India , but I wish the execution of the meeting scene could hv been a bit different with Saumya starting her presentation and later Harman too joining her and elaborating her points more precisely .. It would hv looked more realistic in my view ..


2) HaYa In Bedroom Together ..

Whats Good ..


I loved the fact that both HaYa r equally stubborn .. If she cannot sleep on Bed , then he will go and sleep on sofa with her 😆 ; Also loved the beautiful irony in the scene when Saumya on sofa tells herself that today she freed herself from one bond (as he untie her hand after she sleeps on floor) , tomorrow she will free herself from his every single relation while Harman tells himself She mayb thinking she freed herself from one bond , tomorrow she might free herself from him completely which he cannot let it happen as he can never let her go away from him after which he comes on sofa and ties her hand once again with him 😉😆😳 ; Whats really amazing here is the way Harman can read Saumya's mind so perfectly and even before she acts on her next plan , Harman makes sure he ruins her previous plan of going away from him 😉😆 Saumya thought she finally won one round over Harman by sleeping on sofa only to see her hand tied to him again next morning , thus Harman once again makes sure that he checkmates her in the last minute 😆😛


; Reason why I loved this tieing-untieing scene is because Harman was in malik mode here not letting her Ghulam win easily 😉 yet making sure that his wife's health does not suffer and so he himself sleeps on a side sofa with grt difficulty but makes sure Saumya gets a peaceful sleep on the big sofa 👏 ..I love it when Harman balances this malik and husband role beautifully without really giving her the impression that he is running behind her or caring for her 👍🏼 .. Also I loved Harman's smart presense of mind here when next morning he quickly throws the chaddar on bed as soon as he sees Viren Chacha entering their room , thus making sure noone in the family could find out that husband-wife dint sleep together on bed ..He always makes sure to keep their husband-wife fights private 👏





Whats bad ..

Again it was a bad editing as I still dint get why Saumya was smiling looking at Harman after he ties her hand with him and goes to sleep 😕 ; So I assume either there was some self-talk of Saumya or some flashback she remembered looking at Harman which was as usual edited out and so we could ever know why she was smiling for that split second ...I m guessing mayb she had a self talk that "Harmanji , if u r stubborn then I m no less" and then she goes on floor to sleep but definitely some self talk of hers was edited out 😡 .. Also next morning we see Chaddar on Saumya which means last night Harman had put it on her which was again edited out ..Can this editor be replaced please because it seems he is allergic to HaYa scenes and always loves cutting them out from the episode to fill in other drama ..

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Though the tieing-untieing scene was cute , but if CVs wanted they could hv made it hot by showing Harman in anger carrying Saumya in his arms and putting her on bed again since he is the Malik and he will decide where his Ghulam should sleep 😉😛 ; This is what I mean when I say move beyond their hand holding .. Simple scenes can b made passionate and intense in this way 😳


3) Saumya Vs Preeto & Saumya's Monologues ..

Whats Good

Finally finally Saumya makes it clear to Preeto that she will always love and respect Harmanji and can never tolerate his insult 👏👏 .. When Preeto came to blast Saumya for standing up for Harman in office , I thought Saumya will again go in mute mode but thank god she replied back to Preeto in firm tone 👏👏 ; Now I wish she says the same to Harman one day as well ; It was quite weird of Preeto to actually expect Saumya to remain mute and let Harman go through all the insult and let their factory go through all the loss as well .. hein ?? 😕😆 ; Preeto in desperation to kick Saumya out of the house , has totally lost her mind and does not care even if their factory goes for a toss 😆

I also loved Saumya's monologue in office when she tells herself that after Nimmi , its only Harmanji who taught her how to live life ..awww 😳 ; She says this after he thanks her for saving his reputation in meeting 😳 ; So Saumya herself has nullified Surbhi's presense from her life by putting Harmanji after Nimmi 😉😆 ; Now can Surbhi vanish from planet earth when her Di herself dont recognise her mahaan presense anymore thankfully 😆


Whats Bad ..

While I m loving the fact that CVs r finally giving good monologues to Saumya which brings out her emotional side well and also she has learnt to give it back to Preeto , but sometimes I feel CVs lack consistency with her character .. I still dont get why she has to repeatedly tell Preeto that she will leave Harmanji forever .. I know she wants to leave for herself and not anyone else , but she should stop giving the upper hand to Preeto by repeating these words ...Its obviously sleeping separately was not her decision but Preeto's decision .. I will b more glad if Saumya takes her own decision like the office meeting decision she took instead of relying on Preeto's orders


4) Harman giving full Credit to his Wife and Taunting Harak-Preeto 😆

Whats Good


Being a married woman myself , I can assure that no married man does what Harman did in yesterday's episode 👏 ; No married man will ever give the full credit of his factory's success to his wife in front of his own mom-dad and that too with such pride 👏👏 ; The way he told Harak that your bahu today saved your factory and so all should b proud of her , really hats off to him ⭐️⭐️⭐️ ; Every wife craves for such respect in her Sasural and when her own husband gives her this respect in front of his family , its a real blessing for the girl and so in this case Saumya is indeed very lucky to get a gem of a husband like Harman who knows how to give respect to his wife in front of his family 👏👏 ; And Harman was smart here to address Saumya as Ghulam when he tells Harak , my Ghulam saved your factory , thus making sure he still remembers that oath he took 😉😆 ; What I loved here was the way Harman was feeling so proud giving credit to his wife as if its his win 😳 ; There was no insecurity from his side at all regarding how his wife took all credit in his own meeting and this is something really rare 👍🏼 ; No wonder Harak-Preeto were fuming in anger as Harman went on and on praising his wife in front of them 😆😆 ; Harak almost went in depression hearing Saumya saved his factory 🤣 ; Mayb he was thinking isse better yeh hota ki , factory bik jaata 😆😆





Harman then proudly declared that Saumya will make pulao today as its her day of victory ⭐️⭐️⭐️ ; Even on dinner table , Harman dint stop his Saumya praising session thus irritating HarPreet more 😆😆 ; I felt he was deliberately praising Saumya more in front of his parents just to irritate them as he knew they dont like Saumya , smart guy 😉😆 ; He even went onto ask Harak to open 2 more factories as his bahu can take care of it 😆 ; Poor Harak was on the verge of gettting heart attack out of diabetes after hearing his son's continuous Saumya jaap 😆😆 ;



After all this I really want Saumya to realise Harman's value ,..She dunno what she is loosing by choosing to leave Harman . No man today holds his wife on such a pedestal even if the wife is a normal woman and here Harman almost worships Saumya like a goddess ; Dunno why she still thinks he is doing favour in the name of love because what he did yesterday was anything but favour as he was genuinely so happy and felt proud of his wife 👍🏼 ; Thanking her and then making his family realise about Saumya's contribution to the factory meeting was anything but a favour 🤔 ;

Whats Bad ..

Sometimes in overexcitement , I feel Harman goes a little overboard in his Saumya praising session and forgets that he took a oath and he is still her Malik 😆 ; I know he is crazily in love with her but I wish CVs show him a little more firm and strict in front of Saumya or else she will never melt ; He should not praise her in front of her and if he really wanted to irritate HarPreeto with his Saumya praising , he can do so later in their bedroom and not in front of Saumya 😃 .. I really dint like when he kept praising her while she dint really reciprocate to his compliments with even a slight smile 😒 ; I understand they r still in MU phase and her mission is to go away from him and thats why I want CVs to avoid showing Harman praising Saumya in front of her at least till this MU track is there ..


5) Everything connected to Money .. Hint of Future track ??

Whats Good


I hv noticed how all the side tracks r connected to Monery these days along with the main HaYa track .. Viren Chacha is secretly stealing money from factory which everyone is unaware of .. Ballu lied about his job and is planning to steal Shanno's jewelleries to bring money in the name of fake salary .. Harak's factory going in loss too .. And main track involves Harman giving regular money to Saumya .. So its all about money at the moment 😛😆 ; Why do I feel all this is leading to Harak becoming bankrupt soon and blame falling on HaYa as currently HaYa r attending the board meetings 🤔 ; Main culprits mayb Ballu and Viren chacha but HarPreet might blame HaYa for it ...

Good thing here is this might finally lead to Rebel HaYa who will go their separate way and start their new Business by becoming Harak's rival because by then both HaYa will hv enough experience to start separate business and not to forget Saumya is saving all the money that Harman is giving her now 😉 ..Of course this track will come after this MU track and mayb post Saumya's redemption and confession track .. So CVs mayb building up the base for this track now which is not bad 👍🏼

Also I kept wondering the connection between this MU track and Saya shown taking care of the little kid and deciding to give her a normal life by bringing toys for her .. This was shown in parallel to HaYa attending the meeting .. So again CVs r trying to interconnect something here 🤔 .. Mayb in future if HaYa starts a separate toy business , they will provide spl toys to the third gender community and send out the positive msg to the society .. It could lead towards HaYa vs Society track too ...

Whats bad

Well the bad point is all this Chacha and Ballu drama r actually diverting the interest from main HaYa track as we r hardly getting any HaYa scenes ; Now Surbhi will come today to torture us further in her non existent fight with Preeto which noone is interested to watch 😆 ; While I understand all this side drama could b future build up for next track but CVs should not forget that HaYa deserves enough screenspace too after they single handedly brought the trps to 2.8 during Bangkok track .. So we HaYa fans too deserve to see more of HaYa than side drama ... The day side drama was given more focus Trps started declining .. So its not too late , trps will go up again the day focus shifts back to HaYa and their tashan 😃

About Precap .. no comments .. dont even feel like writing about Surbhi .. so well 😆 .. Overall these r my views about last 2 episodes .. in every scene I found something good and something bad . So overall episodes too were mixed for me .. Hopefully MU track is now leading towards its climax and we can finally see Saumya realising her mistake after finding out the truth by next week ..

Looking forward to Ganpati Maharti by HaYa today 😳


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hai Jyoti.
Thanks.for the lengthy take. Great analysis 😊 agree with you.
This body double kill the impact of the scene. Why they always show Vivian's BD.

The episodes r just good. 😊

haya office scenes brought some fresh air amidst all the same routine hisaab scene and tying and untying sessions in the bedroom.😊.

Agree with u regarding haya romance. They should move on from hand holding and pulav romance 😊. Atlest CVS should show Harman pulling soumya in his arms , lifting her ,etc. 😳 I wish Harman show his Malik attitude in this sense 😆😉
Nothing to say about surbhi non existent war against a very much uninterested preetho😲
And I do appreciate Harman for appreciating his wife in front of all and crediting her for the success of meeting. It's so rare of a husband to be so open minded without any insecurities. 👏 regarding his wife capabilities..

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Beautifully analysis everything u r amazing as always just love every bit of it
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Amamzing anaylsis jyoti❤️
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Wow...Jyoti ...hatts off to you for inspite of net problems...
coming up with such a detailed and beautiful synopsis...
You're the best...👏

Agree completely...dont know why CVs butchered
Harman's character to show him a complete bewcuf
...as Saumya saved the day...they could have shown
him too giving his relevant input...And I dont want
him to give up his Malik mode so easily...yes he
maintains a great balance of caring for her health
and all...but dont want him to tolerate Saumya's
unnecessary tantrums...like when she threw office
items down...and he running after her...She really
does not realize the gem of a hubby she has...
who literally worships the ground on which she
walks on...painful...that one word ...astitva has
clouded her entire vision unabling her to see the
depth of his utter love and devotion for her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Really wonderful analysis very good dear
I do not know why focus on drama family so many P rings that really boring and has no meaning
The focus must be on their problems, their love and everything
Must solve the problems of Haya and face the community and solve the issue of Kenaar somya treatment to become a full ordinary woman beside Herman
Concentration P Personality Herman Herman must be made more intelligent, strong, rational, and wise in managing things and solving them
Why the writer makes his character Hermann always have a weak side that has no influence in the family, work or community
A strong track must be put into the tracks of events and episodes, in which suspense, drama, and focus will be a bilateral dichotomy instead of the tedium of family drama, conspiracies,
Focusing on Harman's personality and strengthening it and not marginalizing the high altitude of the scene, as happened in the course of Bangkok
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Awesome analysis...u write everything in detail...

But are u serious?? U were expecting saumya to give credit to surbhi also alongwith nimmi n harman??? What has she done to gain that credit? She has just done nothing...nothing at all... so how can saumya remember anything about surbhi...she has just forced her to suicide which I want saumya to remember n remind her darling sis too but she easily forgot that...Since start of the show this surbhi is useless only..it's just makers obsession with her that she is so much glorified char even after doing nothing...lol...
The concept of the show also says that saumya has two saviours..first her mother nimmi n then her hubby harman.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Fabulous and smart retake gago👏 👏 👏 👏 👏It's an amazing moment for me reading your organized retakes Your thoughts are speaking with mines.Adored the uptitle "HaYa Good &Bad"It was perfect for the two episode.The introductory advice for shakti team ;i see it very important for the goodness of the show and I'll add for it they must maintain Harman oat and be logical in the storylines of the show.
Jyoti it was fabulous dividing the two episodes in five highlights and talk about the good and bad in everyone of them and wish have time to talk about every highlight as usual but unfortunately haven't time my heart .If I'm doing the retake in this way i''ll add a sixth highlight wish the kinar comunity represented with the kinar house (sorry in pm do wrong counting😆I was semi sleeping bcz was tired with Eid celebration )the kinar house have good a bad too.The good in kinar house I'm waching sparks of changment.Watched that in Saya furious reations when that same woman who came before to criying to return her snagged kinar child come this time crying and giving up .SaYa shouts furiously on her face saying her that she's weak and the society who can't accept her child existance must burn it👏In next episode Says too return house with many toys and said to chameli to give them to the child .SaYa said to kinars that every kinar child come to their house in the future must have a normal bringing up👏The bad is that woman even after hearing saya words keep her msn child and gone😭How can she be so weak ;loosing didn't mean giving up and loosing hope.The fight and the change must be mutual ..You must be powerful and big fighter to improve your existance and your rights should be snached by you with hook and crock,giving up mustn't exist in your dictionary; you'll pass tough obstacles and struggles :you'll be hurted deeply ;you'll will fall several time and in every time you must stand up again and never loose hope..Your Journey will not be easy but you can make the impossible possible.The changement depends only in you.Other things dislike it and each it boring in showing even in kinar house that devils souls jealous and plotting all the time. (Kareena &Raveena)it's useless drama for me and if CVS want show them at least have some creativity as showing some progress in their thinking as showing them dreaming fighting for their existence in society.
Saya steel confuse me especially with that flashback when Harman said her that Saumya is his Gulam and her anger and deep pains in her eyes.CVS are making Saya character flou.Won't write anything about.I'll keep watching and everything will come with time.
About Harman oat CVS have to maintain it intact bcz it Harman choice after deep thinking bcz he discovered showing love to Saumya isn't the solution and the sitution is becoming complicated.Harman pledge is a psychotherapy to cure Saumya brocken soul .To not spoil my mood I considered what i watched that Harman is slipping in the Husband lover mood like he 's crazy with her love.Both HaYa will do that usually but steel refuse that happen directly bcz Harman is smart enough to show his love I'm his way using the malik avatar like he has done in friday ep he his done that without running after her he suprise her in her room after her refusal to go with him by holding her in his arms and taking her downstairs without letting her any chance for objection. We want see this strong Harman.
Other thing dislike it a lot it's showing HaYa fighting in front of others (that man in factory)I see it as CVS mistake bcz as we know that Harman keeep everything between him and his wife privetly.Harman he didn't even show his family know that he isn-t sleeping with his wife in same bed.How showing him fighting with his wife in front of people.
All highlights are well interpreted my dear 👏 👏 👏
Adored the last one and I have same feeling like you and wish that CVS don't disappoint us usual with their craps ideas but with that CVS give more importance to HaYa scenes and the scenes related with money affairs and Surbhi useless drama will be less bcz they're really affectating HaYa scenes and the trp.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beautiful...

Hai Jyoti.

Thanks.for the lengthy take. Great analysis 😊 agree with you.
This body double kill the impact of the scene. Why they always show Vivian's BD.

The episodes r just good. 😊

haya office scenes brought some fresh air amidst all the same routine hisaab scene and tying and untying sessions in the bedroom.😊.

Agree with u regarding haya romance. They should move on from hand holding and pulav romance 😊. Atlest CVS should show Harman pulling soumya in his arms , lifting her ,etc. 😳 I wish Harman show his Malik attitude in this sense 😆😉
Nothing to say about surbhi non existent war against a very much uninterested preetho😲
And I do appreciate Harman for appreciating his wife in front of all and crediting her for the success of meeting. It's so rare of a husband to be so open minded without any insecurities. 👏 regarding his wife capabilities..



Well Friday epi finally showed him lifting her in arms .. so some progress at last 😆😳 ..

I too loved the way Harman gave full credit to Saumya for the factory meeting .. its a very rare thing to do without bringing his male ego .. another grt msg given by Harman 👏
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Originally posted by: VD_Sahiba

Beautifully analysis everything u r amazing as always just love every bit of it



thanks a lot dear 😃

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