Chaitanya and Samantha officially part ways: All Discussion - Page 42

Originally posted by: Swetha96

Mam, thanks for reaching out to me.no mam..I didn't mean that a man who was brought up by a single parent wouldn't dare to cheat.i just wanted to point out that in this case it's unlikely.. that's all.

And chay doesn't hate his father.he really respects him and more understanding of the family dynamics.

And whatnot chay is the only link between the akkineni's and the daggubatti's..he always has to be careful in not offending any of their sentiments,chay seems to be aware of this even as a kid..And so,to me,cheating is the last thing he would do and I tried to convey only that.

Hey , no ma'am please :)

He may or may not have cheated on her and the reason for their separation could be something else . Its all speculations . I just chose to believe the rumours because I trust the sources . I could be entirely wrong and you may well be right .

I agree, he respects his father and he is pretty close to Akhil too .

Originally posted by: D_ancing_fox

I love reading your perception. Just like you I loved their pairing too. Despite the language barrier I became their fan. YMC will always be one of my favourite Telugu flims.

I will be truly happy if they reconcile. There was something very genuine between them. That's why they stood out. Just like you said I too believe that they made this decision in haste.

And yes I liked that Flim Companion interview with Braddy. He is just amazing in it. He comes across an introvert guy who spends his time in introspection. I have seen his earlier interviews too. He seems to be a family person who loves spending time with his close circle. That's why I was surprised to know about this. I thought they are one of the most balanced couples so far.

Even when the divorce rumours were in a full swing, I thought Chay would be able to handle it and they won't get divorce. Cheating is something that doesn't go with his nature. But all these are public perception we don't know what goes on behind the close doors.

They have taken a big decision. And there must be some reason for this. Things are pretty messy for both of them. No matter what their names are linked with each other forever and their future partners will have to deal with this.

In an interview with Flim Companion (2018), I remember Sam telling this that Chay has always thought Sam loves her career more than him.

As far as the Samjam show is concerned, initially I thought it's just leg pulling but don't know why after watching the whole episode I have the feeling that it was his way of making complaints.

She is a workaholic and he has complained about how he hates it that she works on sundays too !!

He seems pretty chill and not as career oriented as she is . I feel it's only recently that he has started putting more effort and interest in acting . He said so himself in Rana's show .

I dont understand what went so wrong between them . I have also heard they have been fighting and having disagreements as early as 2020.

Either they have had disagreements for long and decided to part ways or something big happened in July .

Originally posted by: Neha054

She is a workaholic and he has complained about how he hates it that she works on sundays too !!

He seems pretty chill and not as career oriented as she is . I feel it's only recently that he has started putting more effort and interest in acting . He said so himself in Rana's show .

I dont understand what went so wrong between them . I have also heard they have been fighting and having disagreements as early as 2020.

Either they have had disagreements for long and decided to part ways or something big happened in July .

Really!!

The Chaysam I saw during Majili interviews were adorable. They indeed looked newly married. That's why their divorce news was a real shocker. (I didn't realise it has been 2yrs since then)

Nothing happens just like that. Given the profession they are part of, they indeed had plenty of opportunities even before their wedding as well but it worked out and they got married. Even if infidelity is the reason then things weren't perfect between them as it seemed. They had a love marriage, why would a husband who put so much efforts in getting things done, (Read articles saying they brought a house from some politician, Chay put lots of effort decorating it, Sam was doing back to back flims at that time, was busy, Chay also convinced his own family for this marriage) would cheat his wife within just four years of their marriage. I am not saying it is a reason, just saying in one way or another, things weren't working in their favour.

There is so much of water under the bridge since their divorce announcement, it is difficult to imagine there is a way back for them:

1. If Chay did indeed cheat (anything being possible and not necessarily probable), why would Sam reconcile with him?

2. If Chay did not cheat, Sam and her friends have tried to damage his reputation while he has not done anything to vilify her. I don't know how a relationship bounces back from that.

Sam has changed and not in a good way. Compare the Sam of 2016

watch YT 50 things to know about Samantha iDreams

to the Sam of 2019 ( a nonsense explanation about not speaking Hindi).

......from 2:29

Watch Samantah Ruth Prabhu cute Hindi

Truly, the more I listen to her own words, the less I like her. However, she seems a darling when others talk about her or she is written about.

Originally posted by: Quant

There is so much of water under the bridge since their divorce announcement, it is difficult to imagine there is a way back for them:

1. If Chay did indeed cheat (anything being possible and not necessarily probable), why would Sam reconcile with him?

2. If Chay did not cheat, Sam and her friends have tried to damage his reputation while he has not done anything to vilify her. I don't know how a relationship bounces back from that.

Sam has changed and not in a good way. Compare the Sam of 2016

watch YT 50 things to know about Samantha iDreams

to the Sam of 2019 ( a nonsense explanation about not speaking Hindi).

......from 2:29

Watch Samantah Ruth Prabhu cute Hindi

Truly, the more I listen to her own words, the less I like her. However, she seems a darling when others talk about her or she is written about.

That earlier genuineness is missing in her recent interviews. She overall has an attractive personality. An intelligent individual who knows what people like and what they don't.

Any changes that you notice in Chaitanya's behaviour in recent times??? Just got curious :-)

Originally posted by: D_ancing_fox

That earlier genuineness is missing in her recent interviews. She overall has an attractive personality. An intelligent individual who knows what people like and what they don't.

Any changes that you notice in Chaitanya's behaviour in recent times??? Just got curious :-)

Yes and yes.

Sam first:

Sam is fast reaching the stage where she truly believes she is the hottest thing since .... . IMO, her insta fashion posts are about objectification and not a celebration of a gorgeous female form or self-expression. In this, I find her curiously regressive. Note, that this is not a comparison with other actresses. I can't fathom why Tollywood would have been unhappy with her YMC avatar. She rocked! Just to be clear, her plastic surgeries precede YMC. Look at her ads pre YMC (the videos, not the photos). Possible explanations I can find for her ongoing plastic surgery (someone on the net counted 10 stages in her transformation, linking it to her appearance in particular films):

a. body dysmorphia or

b. the pursuit of the resting-actress-face i.e. a default emotional expression even when one is not emoting.

She wore the same face in "U-turn" and in her instagram posts. The script in "U-Turn" offered very little opportunities for coquettishness or cuteness.

No doubt Sam is intelligent. I don't find her personality attractive anymore.

Chay.

He beats Sam hands down as public speaker when he decides to speak ... which it seems he has now resolved to do. I think it is he who has been liberated by the break-up, not Sam. His recent interviews and appearances seem focused and purposeful. He seems to have reached a point of equanimity, treating success and failure the same. Apparently, he was always like this. I didn't see it in his public persona before. Then again, I didn’t care too much.

Counterpoint to this are Sam’s very public posts of her spiritual retreat. Different strokes for very different folks.

In hindsight, Chay's big problem has been the dilution of moments of very good acting in a sea of overacting. He needed to find a way to sustain the former and avoid the latter. The break-up scene in “Rarandoi Veduka Chudham”is so good.

Here’s a thought: the general consensus is the Sam is ambitious (good!)

and Chay comparatively "lazy" / not as driven based (largely) on the number of movies they have done.

Sam did very few of her own dubbings while Chay did most of his. How much of time does dubbing take?

While Sam moved onto her next movie, Chay may have been doing the dubbing for the current movie. How does that translate into productivity?

This brings to mind a criticism of Chay’s performance in “Love Story” that his Telangana accent was not as good as Sai Pallavi’s. Contrast that with Chinmayi having to be roped in to dub for Sam because her older self had a Godavari accent. Seriously?!!

It is beyond time some perspective is brought to Sam’s talent. She is talented. Is she a great actress? No way!

I am going to make a prediction: once one strips away the PR and SM following, it is Chay who will go down in Cinematic history as the greater talent, not Sam.

I am curious to read your thoughts on this.

Originally posted by: Quant

Yes and yes.

Sam first:

Sam is fast reaching the stage where she truly believes she is the hottest thing since .... . IMO, her insta fashion posts are about objectification and not a celebration of a gorgeous female form or self-expression. In this, I find her curiously regressive. Note, that this is not a comparison with other actresses. I can't fathom why Tollywood would have been unhappy with her YMC avatar. She rocked! Just to be clear, her plastic surgeries precede YMC. Look at her ads pre YMC (the videos, not the photos). Possible explanations I can find for her ongoing plastic surgery (someone on the net counted 10 stages in her transformation, linking it to her appearance in particular films):

a. body dysmorphia or

b. the pursuit of the resting-actress-face i.e. a default emotional expression even when one is not emoting.

She wore the same face in "U-turn" and in her instagram posts. The script in "U-Turn" offered very little opportunities for coquettishness or cuteness.

No doubt Sam is intelligent. I don't find her personality attractive anymore.

Chay.

He beats Sam hands down as public speaker when he decides to speak ... which it seems he has now resolved to do. I think it is he who has been liberated by the break-up, not Sam. His recent interviews and appearances seem focused and purposeful. He seems to have reached a point of equanimity, treating success and failure the same. Apparently, he was always like this. I didn't see it in his public persona before. Then again, I didn’t care too much.

Counterpoint to this are Sam’s very public posts of her spiritual retreat. Different strokes for very different folks.

In hindsight, Chay's big problem has been the dilution of moments of very good acting in a sea of overacting. He needed to find a way to sustain the former and avoid the latter. The break-up scene in “Rarandoi Veduka Chudham”is so good.

Here’s a thought: the general consensus is the Sam is ambitious (good!)

and Chay comparatively "lazy" / not as driven based (largely) on the number of movies they have done.

Sam did very few of her own dubbings while Chay did most of his. How much of time does dubbing take?

While Sam moved onto her next movie, Chay may have been doing the dubbing for the current movie. How does that translate into productivity?

This brings to mind a criticism of Chay’s performance in “Love Story” that his Telangana accent was not as good as Sai Pallavi’s. Contrast that with Chinmayi having to be roped in to dub for Sam because her older self had a Godavari accent. Seriously?!!

It is beyond time some perspective is brought to Sam’s talent. She is talented. Is she a great actress? No way!

I am going to make a prediction: once one strips away the PR and SM following, it is Chay who will go down in Cinematic history as the greater talent, not Sam.

I am curious to read your thoughts on this.

Loved reading your view on this.

In my opinion, Sam in YMC was pure and honest (both look and acting wise). She just lived the character and dominated Chay in every single frame.

P.S - Sam in YMC and Chay in Love Story will always be my favourites. They played these two characters with certain honesty.

Despite her success why Sam decided to go for surgeries, one after another, is a mystery. I can't help but conclude that it is nothing but her obsession with perfection. (It could be one of the reasons for their separation as well)

she wants everyone to look up to her. Through her SM account she wants to come across as some role model.

On the contrary, Chay seems completely opposite. In all his interviews so far, he has highlighted the mistakes that he made in terms of his career. Even in his earlier days interviews , he came across very straight forward and a guy who does everything with a proper preparation.

(Chay, Rana appeared in an interview together hosted by Lakshmi Manchu, that interview says a lot about him)

But he hardly opened up about his personal life, all his interviews with Rana are great source for the viewers to see the glimpse of his personality. (And definitely about Sam, he was surprisingly vocal. I guess he was very confident about his relationship) He is anything but fake. I fail to see any drastic change in terms of his personality that he has gone through recently. Yes, he comes across more focused than before and sincere in terms of his career.

Doing extra has always been his problem when it comes to his acting. I hope with Majili and Love story he has found a way to deal with that.

General perception depends on professional success. Chay, only recently has started doing the right kind of flims. He is more suitable for realistic flims than larger than life roles. Prediction will come true only if he chooses the right kind of scripts and roles. This is high time he should explore the non-telugu world. (I think Tamil Malayalam films are more experimental than Telugu) Love story has made a way for him. It will be interesting to see what he chooses to do next.

What I find tragic in this whole divorce episode that it was only recently I thought they have started changing for good. Sam, in the last few interviews, before her divorce, came across more humble than earlier and Chay looked more focused and sincere and opened up more than before. I thought as partners they might have influenced each other.

Having said that, after divorce Sam has seemingly gone back to her earlier space, read one of her Flimfare interviews. Her PR is leaving no stone unturned to flaunt her FamilyMan success and to prove that she is a superstar in south. (She has gone on spree doing everything that she couldn't do as Akkineni)

How Chay is going to react to this divorce, how he's going to channelize it, will be interesting to see. I may be reading too much between the lines but Sam looks radiant in her latest pictures, more glamorous than before ( may be because of make up) while through out flim promotion and in recent pictures he came across visibily dull.

Originally posted by: Quant

Yes and yes.

Sam first:

Sam is fast reaching the stage where she truly believes she is the hottest thing since .... . IMO, her insta fashion posts are about objectification and not a celebration of a gorgeous female form or self-expression. In this, I find her curiously regressive. Note, that this is not a comparison with other actresses. I can't fathom why Tollywood would have been unhappy with her YMC avatar. She rocked! Just to be clear, her plastic surgeries precede YMC. Look at her ads pre YMC (the videos, not the photos). Possible explanations I can find for her ongoing plastic surgery (someone on the net counted 10 stages in her transformation, linking it to her appearance in particular films):

a. body dysmorphia or

b. the pursuit of the resting-actress-face i.e. a default emotional expression even when one is not emoting.

She wore the same face in "U-turn" and in her instagram posts. The script in "U-Turn" offered very little opportunities for coquettishness or cuteness.

No doubt Sam is intelligent. I don't find her personality attractive anymore.

Chay.

He beats Sam hands down as public speaker when he decides to speak ... which it seems he has now resolved to do. I think it is he who has been liberated by the break-up, not Sam. His recent interviews and appearances seem focused and purposeful. He seems to have reached a point of equanimity, treating success and failure the same. Apparently, he was always like this. I didn't see it in his public persona before. Then again, I didn’t care too much.

Counterpoint to this are Sam’s very public posts of her spiritual retreat. Different strokes for very different folks.

In hindsight, Chay's big problem has been the dilution of moments of very good acting in a sea of overacting. He needed to find a way to sustain the former and avoid the latter. The break-up scene in “Rarandoi Veduka Chudham”is so good.

Here’s a thought: the general consensus is the Sam is ambitious (good!)

and Chay comparatively "lazy" / not as driven based (largely) on the number of movies they have done.

Sam did very few of her own dubbings while Chay did most of his. How much of time does dubbing take?

While Sam moved onto her next movie, Chay may have been doing the dubbing for the current movie. How does that translate into productivity?

This brings to mind a criticism of Chay’s performance in “Love Story” that his Telangana accent was not as good as Sai Pallavi’s. Contrast that with Chinmayi having to be roped in to dub for Sam because her older self had a Godavari accent. Seriously?!!

It is beyond time some perspective is brought to Sam’s talent. She is talented. Is she a great actress? No way!

I am going to make a prediction: once one strips away the PR and SM following, it is Chay who will go down in Cinematic history as the greater talent, not Sam.

I am curious to read your thoughts on this.

Back in 2018, Flimfare conducted interviews with Telugu stars. Both Sam and Chay appeared,(individually, 2 separate episodes) Chinmayi Sripada hosted it. Would love to know what do you think about those two particular episodes? Just curious :-)

D_ancing_fox, your posts have given me a lot to reflect on but before taking a deep dive into it it, here is a thought before I forget about it:

Chay feels like a very old soul to me. He seems to know how to be in himself but struggled with how to be in the world. For me, the opposite is true for Sam: she has excelled in how to be in the world but not in herself.

This breakup seems to have had the following effect: Chay has been forced to find a way to engage with the world in a way that does not give him cognitive dissonance (see his solo YT clip, Bangaraju promos, his interviews from September 2021). Sam has kept him connected to that world without him having to engage in it (his benefit?). I think it went too far.

Sam no longer has the crutch of Chay to ground her. She needs to find it herself and within herself. Her social media posts don't strike me as someone bright, carefree, sparkling and liberated. I see her posts and feel like she is bleeding across SM: someone who is in pain, is letting us know she is in pain, but believing that the more she is in the world (her "glam" poses, deals she is signing etc.), the less she will feel in pain.

Sam needed that retreat she took; I just don't think she took from it what she needed.

Can't agree more. I just love reading your views.

Yes, he offered her stability, more than anything else. To a certain extent it reflected through her career choices and public appearance.

In all his interviews, including the recent one, chay came across, a well-prepared guy, not someone who takes sudden decisions. This is why, I was reluctant to believe these rumours as it came out of the blue.