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* Religion is a sensitive topic and my post is not meant to hurt anyone. I am just trying to present the right picture. I do not wish for any heated arguments, I just want to say what is being instilled in us by society is wrong. Its been twisted ages ago but we should understand things the way they were meant to be.

The shlok shown on this show where a priest said it meant - Mahapurush's mouth formed the Brahmana, His arms made Kshatriya, His two thighs the Vaishyas and from His feet the Shudras. This shlok is highly misinterpreted, misused and misjudged. Just yesterday in Upanishad Ganga they explained what this meant. The episode in not uploaded yet but once it is, I will post the link. Please watch it to understand the real meaning

Suppressors distort bits from ved and make a mess in society. They will create a havoc if they are touched by low-caste people but what about untouchability when they rape a low-caste girl/woman, as seen in many reported incidents. It clearly shows that they practice what suits them. One of the ladies in the show said she read in scriptures that low-caste people should be treated in a certain way. I am not sure what she read. Ved and God will never ask you to differentiate between people in such fashion. This is all created by Humans.

Firstly BRAHMIN, KSHATRIYA, VAISHYA & SHUDRA are Varn Vyavastha but since there is no word equivalent to in English its got translated as Caste. That is not correct. Its clearly said that unless like for a healthy human body Mouth, Arms, Thighs and Feet need to work in tandem, similarly a Sabhya Samaj can function properly only when these 4 Varn work and live in sync.

Please read this
http://www.mindbodynsoul.com/index.php/Positive-Thinking/the-scientific-form-of-the-vedic-caste-system.html

http://www.facebook.com/UpanishadGanga/posts/246350872151010
http://www.facebook.com/UpanishadGanga/posts/246376188815145

Surprisingly, good topics hardly get any posts on this forum.

I agree, that with each generation, translation, interpretation of the ancient texts have been distorted to suit the vested interests of a select group. This link tweeted by SMJ yesterday makes for very good reading on the ManuSmriti which is often quoted to justify casteism.

Originally posted by: parri814

This link tweeted by SMJ yesterday makes for very good reading on the ManuSmriti which is often quoted to justify casteism.

Oh and before I vanish from this forum, has anyone here watched the 6-episodic documentary about India on PBS? It's called "The Story of India". Kind of beats our belief that Indian Civilization was the core of all other civilizations 😃

Originally posted by: mistrymachine

Unfortunately the show didn't even have any scholar to talk on the origins of caste instead they just show some pandit blabbering. One can take any idiot and make them have opinion on a serious issue such as caste or religion, but how does that make any sense? Why didnt Amir Khan approach a scholar or a historian to talk about the origins of caste? instead of just attaching it to hinduism? Just to make an entire group of people apologetic? That really shows the kind of biasness this show has and on top of that the amount of ignorance it is spreading on such issues. Not going to take this show any seriously to be honest.

Exactly my point. AK asked the person who made this documentary how did this originate and they show this random pandit blabbering. Why didn't they get a scholar. They gave quotes for all religions about how they speak of oneness but for Hinduism we have this pundit giving some distorted explanation of a shlok which he himself never understood. And that lady who came in the beginning, i understand she has had a difficult like, more made because of other people but saying that she read in Shastra that they should be treated that way is not acceptable to me. Which shastra said that a sect of people have no right for new cloths or they should be made to smell bad. I am sorry but that put me off.

Like Jehad is a widely misunderstood and misused term and everyone should understand that. Similarly everyone should also understand that "Varna Vyavastha" is a widely misunderstood and misused concept as well. No religion will teach you to suppress and mistreat another individual. Whoever says they read it in Shastra, Ved or Upanishads never understood what they read. To me this episode was not responsibly made.

Originally posted by: parri814

This link tweeted by SMJ yesterday makes for very good reading on the ManuSmriti which is often quoted to justify casteism.

http://agniveer.com/manu-smriti-and-shudras/

They posted the link on twitter but their entire 1.5 hrs episode did not reflect this one bit. They did not get a scholar to tell you whats there in the link instead we had a random pandit giving misinformation. This episode should have been made more responsibly.

agree with you...its the ppl who have misinterpreted the vedas and Realigiuos scriptures. the varna system basically was to categorise people according to the service they provide to the society but later on it took a whole new dimension and meaning in the form of caste system. later on law givers like Manu totally ruined the society by diffretiating between the Brahmins Kshatriya's and the shudras...manusmriti is the best example to showcase the diffrentiation being made betwwn high and low cate ppl...manu even went to the extent of saying that a person who does marriage for the sake of pleasre is a shudra coz a shudra is a creature with no good work to do. i mean really???? then Manu's punishments were also biased...a Brahmin could kill a thousand ppl but could get away by doing 'paschytap' whereas if a shudra even disregarded a brhmin or denied the caste system was to be amputed. this shows that Indian society has been mis interpreting the holy scriptures from time immemorial.

Originally posted by: kanak.

They posted the link on twitter but their entire 1.5 hrs episode did not reflect this one bit. They did not get a scholar to tell you whats there in the link instead we had a random pandit giving misinformation. This episode should have been made more responsibly.

Excuse me! That was NOT some random priest babbling! He is the HEAD of the Kashi Maath. AK is HARDLY responsible for the irresponsible babbling of the religious head of one of the more important Maaths. If you consider what he said as mere babbling may be we should petition to have the dunder head removed from the exalted position?! But there is NO guarantee that the next appointee will not sprout the same kind of criminal nonsense!!