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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Curious

You say this show told you something you already knew or read about. Frankly speaking my dear, this show is not just for you! It is meant for people in rural areas also. Less educated people in India's small towns too who either do not know anything or simply ignore reality.

Even if they are aware of issues, they aren't bothered about its consequences, its legality or how fair or unfair it is.

You probably are not from India at all, or live in a metropolitan city, this is why you're saying this show is nothing new!

The show is ONLY benefitting him? What about NGOs getting lakhs of donations due to Satyamev Jayate? What about Childine getting more awareness, more volunteers and funds due to Satyamev Jayate?

The guys featured in SJ like Harish Iyer have been working on this issue for long. But they got noticed mainly after Satyamev Jayate and people are now coming forward to help them or join their initiatives in some way.

Donations worth Rs. 64 lakhs were raised in just 6 days for Snehalaya - the organisation featured in female foeticide issue episode. Tell me how many TV shows manage to do that?

And what money Aamir is making from this show is frankly NOTHING compared to what he makes when he does a mere ad!

You can stay away from this show and watch Dus Ka Dum or Bigg Boss or KBC since those are sncere efforts and not as harmful and sinister as Satyamev Jayate!😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
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@znursingh

You do not like Aamir Khan. Good that you clarified. 😊

Well how can you say his tears were all glycerine? And his reactions were all acting and emoting and nothing else? It's your perception (also heavily influenced by like or dislike for the person in question).

I do understand your take on Nita Ambani. One can doubt these rich businessmen and wonder how genuine they are. But then, don't we criticise if rich guys do nothing at all?

I can't comment on whether Ambanis or their Reliance Foundation are genuine or not. But if they are donating to NGOs that work for social issues, then what's wrong here?

Combined with donations sent by viewers, and ones sent by Reliance Foundation, they raised lakhs of rupees for NGOs in just 5-6 days.

And say what you will, but involvement of a star like Aamir and expansive reach of the show (with screens set up in remote rural areas too) helps raise awareness which a normal NGO or activist can never hope to get in such a short time!

Childline got flooded with calls, applications for volunteers and donations. Snehalaya's website crashed due to so many visitors they got. Their head himself says they got lot of calls from people wanting to help. It's a positive sign!

And honestly speaking, it's due to presence of a star like Aamir that otherwise conservative Indian audiences discussed an issue like child sex abuse. Otherwise such topics are total taboo for routine people! It's a positive impact of this show that those doctors' workshops also got noticed and parents are now trying to make their kids more alert and themselves also be more protective towards them.

We're educated and modern. So we think we know it all already. But many educated people also do not bother to think about issues or live under illusions that relatives or family members can't do anything wrong etc.

Intentions of celebs can always be doubted. But whether we admit it or not, majority does take notice when a popular celeb/star does something. So better these celebs give us shows like Satyamev Jayate to talk about, than some latest brawl at some party or cricket stadium.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: curious1

@znursingh
Nice post. Do not forget one of the most expensive private Jet for Nita Ambani that got stuck in air traffic the first time it flew.

I am very optimistic and not at all cynical. I am keeping calm head on my shoulder.
In Aamir Khan's words
"Sirf Hangama khada karna mera maksad nahi. Meri koshish hai ki ye surat badalni chahiye.
Tere seene main nahi to mere seene main sahi ho khani bhi aag lekin aag jalni chaiye"

I am going to keep the fire burning and will continue to raise my voice against it no matter how many people oppose it. Please stop taking advantage of people's misery.



@ curious-

I did try to stick to the topic-the show! Not very successfully,I'm afraid!

But to be lectured about charity by the wife of THE most corrupt businessman in India really stuck in the craw! To ADVERTISE your charitable work kinda cancels out the very CONCEPT of charitable work,doesn't it?
I WAS severely tempted to bring up her private jet & juxtapose it with the image of her patronizingly patting a poor child on the head while breathlessly prattling on about "Good works" by the Ambani Foundation.
Since you brought it up,I'm going to put her ostentatious 29 mallah house on the table too! TWENTY NINE floors for a family of FIVE?? @ just under six floors per family member?? And SHE is going to lecture us about being charitable?! And the bleeding thing is ugly to boot! The architect/s are/were aficionados of LEGO &/or Jenga?! Adding visual insult to the offended sensibilities injury- QUITE an achievement,that???

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@znursingh

You do not like Aamir Khan. Good that you clarified. 😊

#### That is NOT a crime yet,is it?!

Well how can you say his tears were all glycerine?

###### Acute observation-dead eyes?!

And his reactions were all acting and emoting and nothing else?

#### To my jaundiced eye-YES!

It's your perception

#### OF COURSE IT IS! Nobody would lend me theirs!

(also heavily influenced by like or dislike for the person in question).

##### That is YOUR perception!

I do understand your take on Nita Ambani.

#### Thank you!

One can doubt these rich businessmen and wonder how genuine they are?

#### I'm sure SOME are genuine. The Ambanis?NOT AT ALL!

But then, don't we criticise if rich guys do nothing at all?

##### Not really! In India,rich industrialists do cricket teams not charity!

I can't comment on whether Ambanis or their Reliance Foundation are genuine or not.

### NOT! They have their hot little fingers in EVERY dirty pie in the country-their name is a running joke in the industry!

But if they are donating to NGOs that work for social issues, then what's wrong here?

##### Reserve your judgement till the blitzkrieg is over.File a PIL and check who gave how much towards what cause-information is a potent weapon! And AK is using it well!

Combined with donations sent by viewers, and ones sent by Reliance Foundation, they raised lakhs of rupees for NGOs in just 5-6 days.

####That is a good beginning,isn't it?

And say what you will, but involvement of a star like Aamir and expansive reach of the show (with screens set up in remote rural areas too) helps raise awareness which a normal NGO or activist can never hope to get in such a short time!

##### 100% AGREE! If you or I raised these issues,our voices would be lost in the cacophony! They needed AK's presence,his voice,his popularity,his gravitas to shake us out of our apathetic acceptance of the totally unacceptable

Childline got flooded with calls, applications for volunteers and donations. Snehalaya's website crashed due to so many visitors they got. Their head himself says they got lot of calls from people wanting to help. It's a positive sign!

##### I do hope that this enthusiasm will last beyond the fanfare too.

And honestly speaking, it's due to presence of a star like Aamir that otherwise conservative Indian audiences discussed an issue like child sex abuse. Otherwise such topics are total taboo for routine people! It's a positive impact of this show that those doctors' workshops also got noticed and parents are now trying to make their kids more alert and themselves also be more protective towards them.

#### Yes I agree.

We're educated and modern. So we think we know it all already. But many educated people also do not bother to think about issues or live under illusions that relatives or family members can't do anything wrong etc.

##### Educated & modern has NOTHING to do with attitude & perception. Personally I'd rate the road side Dhoban delighted with her rotund,golu-molu daughter higher--MUCH HIGHER -- on the "modern & educated" scale than that family of DOCTORS who forced their DOCTOR DIL to abort several times to avoid the "burden" of daughters. I think you are confusing being literate with being EDUCATED,you think?

Intentions of celebs can always be doubted. But whether we admit it or not, majority does take notice when a popular celeb/star does something. So better these celebs give us shows like Satyamev Jayate to talk about, than some latest brawl at some party or cricket stadium.

#### AGAIN I agree. I think its is most commendable that AK is lending the weight of his public persona to raise issues that are pertinent rather than flogging Thanda Thanda Cool Cool oils,brawny whitening creams, or men's undies that allegedly drive women AND politicians mad!


You write well & argue even better (Sorry! That's the Lecturer in me peeking out!)
Been a pleasure & honor interacting with you.
Looking forward to reading more from you! But please DO reread my post-I said I don't like AK but complimented him for doing a sterling job this time around.


Edited by znursingh - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#85
@curious1

Why do you view everything as black and white? You think people doing bad should be at the rich end, not doing a single good thing. And people doing good should start leaving a simple life, giving away all luxuries. Why can't a person have luxury and still donate? Whatever money Aamir has, he earned it. As I said before, it doesn't cost viewers anything. And the show takes money to make. And why can't he enjoy life while doing good. You didn't answer my question, don't you watch movies or shows? They encash your emotions on fiction and you are happy. So, why have a problem with reality?

About the question of making money on emotions, the content of serial is such that it will be emotional. The emotions are true, not some reality show crap. So, where's the problem?

And about bashing rich, can't that be said about everyone? Since you are on internet, I can also assume that you have your basic needs covered. You must have education and there is a high probability that you have a nice TV, car and AC maybe and other luxurious items. But there are many children in India who are hungry and without a roof over their head. Now isn't your lifestyle to them is like Ambani to you? So, is it fair for me to ask you to sell everything and go live in slums? It is easy to bash rich because you don't live that lifestyle. But always remember there is someone poor than you. So, are you willing to give up everything? If not, then why the hypocrisy? And all this is according to your logic. I say, why give up what you have earned? You can simultaneously live a good life and help others to get there too.

And go look upon the charity work of Bill Gates. He has done so very much, but he is one of the richest persons on the planet. But according to your regiment argument, he should either stop charity or give up all his money, which is ridiculous. Remember, you have to earn to give.

And why don't you focus on the show instead of host. Removing Aamir doesn't change anything. And just because you know about a thing, doesn't mean wikipedia is useless. Many people are not aware and they will benefit from this show. And just because publishers charge money which goes to authors, doesn't mean you should stop reading. Everybody have a right to get paid for their work.
Edited by Freethinker112 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#86
You make sense! Ask him If he would do the show if he was paid Rs 100

I think its the makers of the show who should be applauded for thier script and sense
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Before I begin, I have to admit that I am not a very active member and do not participate in discussions often. But, after having read most of the past posts, I just had to put in my two cents.

I agree with Freethinker 112. Why does everything need to be black and white??? Whatever happened to various shades of grey????? (And, this is just me being truly curious, do you really know of anything/anyone thats purely white?? i.e. do you believe that things can be pure good, without any bad???)But, I'm moving off-topic😳. You are free to ignore that question😃.
If you feel that Aamir is only doing this for money and fame, and is not being sincere, then that's your opinion. I'm not going to say whether it's true or not, because I honestly don't know for sure. Maybe he's faking it, maybe he's not. But, can you not at least admit that he is doing something that a whole lot of other people are not. i.e. making a difference.(whatever may be his reasons for doing so.)

Moreover, why is this such a big issue❓??? So, he is earning lots of money from SMJ. So, he is only acting and faking it and taking advantage. So, what??? This show is not about him. It is about the various social evils and issues that are prevalent in society. It is about people like you and me who are the victims of society itself. It is my opinion that all of us should be focusing on that and not on who's earning what .(But, maybe thats just me??) An honest question to all those who are against the show because of Aamir's fee and Reliance and what-nots : Don't you think that by focusing so much on Aamir and others who you believe are taking advantage, you are drawing people's attention to those very people that you despise. I've heard that "All publicity is good publicity". So, don't you think that you are, in your own way, giving them way too much limelight??? Because, to me its really the contents of the show that counts.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: -Neloufer-

You make sense! Ask him If he would do the show if he was paid Rs 100


I think its the makers of the show who should be applauded for thier script and sense


Applauding the makers...I totally agree...brilliant idea...but again we have to thank amir khan...he is the producer/maker of the show...it's amir khan productions...SMJ is a result of two years of hard work put in by amir and his efficient team...

I can't understand why his per episode income is such a grand issue...grander than the sensitive topics...topics which should get our undivided attention...amir has pumped more than 50 cores in this project excluding the publicity...even NGOs need money to function...the show is dubbed in many languages...is it possible to do such things minus the finances...

Ok...i am ready to concede some people are having different perspective regarding the financial issues...but according to me their inclination is slightly more towards this aspect than it should have been...Period...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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😍Sorry, for the long posts, but, please bare with me...

I agree with you on the fact that people do seem to need someone "famous" to tell them about real and imp social issues. For eg., If I were to go around my area, or even start a blog or show or whatever talking about such issues and trying to spread awareness, I would be greeted with either a whole lot of indifference and disinterest or maybe just a few praises. But, would I be able to make a lot of difference??? On a large scale???? I don't think so. So, what I'm trying to say, is that, yes, people are attracted by stars and celebs and famous people. Yes, it would seem that unless someone like Aamir Khan hosts the show, most people wouldn't be interested. But, why do you fault him for that??? It is what it is. We cannot change people's minds. Isn't it better to accept that Aamir is going to perhaps profit from the show but, at the same time, going to make maybe just a teeny, tiny bit of difference than begrudge him for it??? Or would you rather that someone sefless do his/her very best to change society, but not succeed as much as Aamir has??? Because there are people like that out there. People who just want to help other people without asking for anything in return and who are not rich and famous. But, let's face it, the very fact that they are not rich or powerful, lessens the impact they have on society. I know, and I'm sure that many of you do as well, people who are truly selfless and altruistic. But, I doubt that any of you have heard of the people on my mind, and vice-versa. And truth is, they just aren't able to make as much of an impact as a well-known person.

@curious1
You mentioned somewhere not to take advantage of other people's suffering. I completely agree. Everything else aside, taking profit or pleasure in other's suffering is plain wrong. But, again, I would have to argue that Aamir and the SMJ people haven't actually taken advantage of people's sufferings. The people who come to SMJ and share their stories were hardly forced to do so. They knew their stories were going to be telecast worldwide. They knew that Star and Aamir were going to make at least some amount of money(cause,really, nobody works for free!!). They know much more about how the episodes are cast(in reality) and if Aamir's tears and reactions were fake, they can probably tell.(I mean if it looked fake to some people through the tv, you should be able tell up front, right?) Knowing all this, they didn't have to come on the show, but, they chose to do so(for whatver reasons of their own). So, you can hardly call that "taking advantage."

Lastly, I don't know abt you guys, but to be honest, if I had the opportunity to help spread awareness and collect donations and earn lots of money, would I have not taken it??? Umm...guess what??? I would totally have taken it. I mean who doesn't want to earn money in today's world?? It's the way our greedy human minds work. And while I do not believe that I am unusually greedy or anything and have always wanted to do sth for society, the fact remains that if given the chance to do sth good while at the same time make a fortune, I wouldn't hesitate to take it. So, why be a hypocrite and grudge Aamir for doing the same??? Money would be like the icing on cake, you know😆??? Or strawberries..., and chocolate, and cherries and...(whoa, I have a huge craving for cake!!!!! I wonder why😍??)
Plus, where does it say that no profit should be made by doing sth good??? In fact, 'Good things happen to good people', right???😊

Ok, I think I have given enough of my considerably large opinions. â˜ș And guys, remember,"To each his own". So, please do not take my opinons the wrong way.😃
Edited by starling - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@starling...I super like your post...you are right...I can't fathom why grey can't be a shade of life...why it has to be black or white...

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