Jaha mujhe paraya samja jata hai...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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When Ilesh said this... I was wondering how easily he said it... how could he say things like that to...

Family who took care of him since he even didn't know how to speak & walk... BM, Rano and RB feeded him from their hands... made him sleep in thier lap... Alok made him learn how to walk holding his hands... Dada - Dadi sang lullaby for him... Inder being elder faught to other street boys for him & protected him... it was this family who supported him when he was not earning & jobless... they took care of his expenses & needs... Kashyaps showered their UNCONDITIONAL LOVE to him😊... and after one incident... without finding out what the Truth is he said "Mujhe us ghar me nahi rehna... Jaha mujhe paraya samja jata hai... "😔🤢

How easily Ilesh said it... out of anger, frustartion... but is his words justifiable😕?? Ilesh saying such words to family member was plain wrong according to me... His frustration even doesn't justify his anger..🥱 it's always easy to blame... He blamed Inder... who had always put his siblings before him...

happens to many familes... and I am sure many of you have seen also... where elder ones sacrifice... work hard to make younger ones life better... help them in settling down in their life... and on one fine day... they got to hear such harsh things for the love they have given... and it's painful to hear... I wonder how one can forget of what person has done for you... how one can be so selfish... not to consider others feelings...
I wud love to know your views... do share it... I was free today hence, thot to write something... sorry if I hurted anyone or bored you guys... It's my POV. 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post sachi. 😃 i haven't been watching sgp for a while now not because the episodes aren't worth watching, but i just don't find the time 😆 but i have the idea of the story since i read updates, so will present my view accordingly.

we know that Elesh, as a matter of fact, everyone in the Kashyap family has experienced unconditional love of each other. Everyone has sacrificed for each other through tough times. Even Elesh, once he got the job, gave money wherever it was needed and helped out Inder once when he was going to lose job or something (don't remember exactly). So behind this love is the real identity of the person...and for Elesh it seems like he was blinded sooo much by love that he couldn't identify with his identity.

Because of the love, he didn't pay much attention to the kind of work he was doing...I mean he never grew out of his i-don't-want-to-get a job mode. like earlier when he didn't have a job, he used to play around like a kid and now that he has a job, it seems like he was not ready for this huge responsibility - i can say that this again is because of the love being showered at him. If from early on, he was shown properly the way, he might not be where he is today.

But coming back to the point, when someone is blinded with love, even a small thorn can cause a huge damage. In this case, he, out of anger, said all these things. He still hasn't realized what he has done, (ie thinking that they consider him paraya). once he goes out in the world by himself, he will realize the importance of the love that he received from kashyap family. So hence, we can't say that his actions are justified because his statement is completely wrong, however, i do understand where he is coming from and that is the result of unconditional love.

p.s. sorry for all my ramblings. i hope i made a point though. 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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very good post sachi...😊
i think Ilesh is totally self-centered now...he is just thinking abt himself...yes..he thinks Inder plotted against him...so his anger against Inder is ok..when he will realise the truth everything will be fine...
but his anger towards the other family members is totally unjustified...he shud put a sorry face in front of them for all the humility they too have to go thru...Ilesh is thinking he is the only sufferer...bt in a family...if one is suffering...everyone is suffering...
as u said sachi...the elders have given unconditional love to Ilesh...they havent even discussed abt Ilesh being paraya, etc...bt in just one sec...Ilesh has made everyone feel that...
what is Ilesh thinking...if he did not know that he was doing a wrong job doesnt mean he is innocent...he ws just ignorant...he has been working with black money is the truth...bt even after that the family still loves him...Ilesh shud be lucky...
i know everything will be fine...but Ilesh can never take back those harsh words he has spoken to the elders especially...even if the elders forget it..
it was very saad to see the elders pleading Ilesh to stay back...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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and this example is very relatable to our daily life...this often happens in families. When something comes up that makes us angry, we tend to forget all the love and positivities...like when parents don't give what one child wants but at another occasion gives that thing to another child, a thought always crosses the mind that parents love the other child more and not me...even though that isn't the case, parents are really equal in their treatment...so this same case applies to ilesh. just because inder and alok doubted his work, he can only think negative about them for right now, just because of his anger... i'm sure once he realizes what he has done, he will regret it BIG TIME!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post Sachi
Right now I feel Elesh still thinks that he is right and have not committed any crime...but indirectly he has...he still thinks that Inder, jst to prove his word have planned all this and thus he got trapped in it...
I totally agree with Feefi and Shwets in above post

Inder has always placed the priorities of his brothers first...and always wants them to prosper...but u know when someone gets unconditional love and suddenly that person is pointed..it feels really hard to accept that as it is unexpected.

I have seen such cases where children often think that their parents love more to siblings, and same was with Elesh as he thinks he has not done anything and still no one with with him and all are justifying Inder.

Elesh is choleric right now as he thinks that he is the one to be pointed out when it comes to degrading the esteem of the family and he blames Inder for all this

Elesh questioning Inder is justifiable but elders pleading him to stay back is something which I didnt liked...he could have politely told to elders that he dont want to stay here anymore only because of Inder bhaiya...but here is is blaming the entire family which is wrong...

Even if he leaves the house, within a day or two he'll understand how cruel the world is and with out the support of family he cant do anything.

I m loving this track except of Elesh's acting and CV's have handled this issue nicely and it is so realistic as even one misunderstanding and destroy the whole relation. and when in anger we often tend to speak anything and then we understand that we were wrong...so now even Elesh will realise and will definately regret for his harsh words
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Feefi

and this example is very relatable to our daily life...this often happens in families. When something comes up that makes us angry, we tend to forget all the love and positivities...like when parents don't give what one child wants but at another occasion gives that thing to another child, a thought always crosses the mind that parents love the other child more and not me...even though that isn't the case, parents are really equal in their treatment...so this same case applies to ilesh. just because inder and alok doubted his work, he can only think negative about them for right now, just because of his anger... i'm sure once he realizes what he has done, he will regret it BIG TIME!

@Bold -- That exactly my point is... Feefi... You said it all... Thanks... 😃Actually I wrote something similar this but before I post somehow I accidently deleted it... 😆 then I was bit lazy... didn't write it again... 😉😆
Ilesh will regret.. but howhe will forget... that he made Dadaji - BM plead him...😕🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post Sachi, I think deep down ilesh knows what he isdoing is wrong, deep down yes, but he is hurt, humiliated, lost ( his life turn up side down) He doesn't eve know ehat he is saying. Just like suhana break things, some people break others heart. BOth things should not happen. Temper is not something that U get anything by loosing it.
All Ilesh knows & understands is He has a good job, gets paid for the job, He does what is asked from him, his employers r happy with his work, people at hiswork place respects him ( which kashyaps doesn't) Has anyone of them told him ever Ilesh beta V r so proud of U? Ever. NIkkama, aalsi, mufta khanna khane wala. THey say all these things for a while ( everyone has their way of expessing love but U must also use those 3 words too) I )Love U & I m Proud of U goes long way. When he wasn't working, he must not have liked to hear those words but he knew they were rigt. So many times, Ilesh told Disha ke what kashayaps have done for him, can not b repaid. So he understands but in this moment He has forgotten everything & only focussing on the negative.
What ever fake maan samman he thinks he has from his work place, soon he will learn that what is more pracious in life for him.
If U remember after the czke fiasco, KK said " Suhana kahin der naa karde apni zindagi ke iss sunahre rishton ko samaj ne main " I loved that dialodg. It goes also for Ilesh & rest of us. One moment of anger does far more damage than everyday figt. As for Inder - Ilesh figt is nothing, they must have had bloody figts growing up. My Dadi used to say, " Maat bhed hoy pan, Maan bhed naa hoy " meaning Its ok to have difference of opinion, but not the difference in thinking.
Again, Inder also could have done few things separately, he could have taken Alok and told him what he learned from his boss then both alok, inder could have asked him separately, the way inder gaanged up on him in front of family for him was harsh. When ilesh learns the true natur of his work he will apologise. I have said, felt so many things in heat of anger which once I calm down makes me ashamed of my self so once he is calm enough to think, he will learn.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good post Sachi, Elesh thought Inder did all this to him... may be the way Inder asked Elesh accused him as Beyimaan ...Elesh couldn't forgot those words.. It's ok he is angry with Inder.. If he doesn't want to talk to him, it's fine.. But what the other family members did to him...

Especially dada, dadi, BM, rano, RB,Alok they are the one who too care of him... Now he has some money wants to leave the house ??? The way he accused whole family..."
Jaha mujhe paraya samja jata hai..."

No one till now treated him paraya.. Elesh didn't understood, what ever he did is CRIME... He is only responsible.. In jail also
He didn't get his COMPANY used him. He is not a bechara.. or a kid.. . Now in anger he told those harsh words towards his family and his brother.. What he will do when he find out.. he really a helped and part of BEYIMAAN business..

How would he face his family members and his brother ??
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post 😊 I agree with everyone's views on this one.
It is easy to understand that Elesh is angry with Inder due to a misunderstanding. But I do not understand his anger with the rest of the family. At what point did it feel like he was being considered an outsider? And if he did make up his mind in jail, then why did he agree to take Alok's help in bailing him out?
Elesh spoke very hurtful words today, I hope he really regrets it, and apologises to everyone soon. Such words, once spoken, are never forgotten. I think that at this point, Disha should take a stand for the family and try to get Elesh to realize that he is wrong.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post Sachi 😊

I think some where at the bottom of his heart Ilesh knows how wrong he is. But he is in this denial mode where he does not want to accept that he is wrong..So he is blaming everybody around him..

But I agree with Netri, Inder could have been more subtle while asking Ilesh about his job.

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