The Kashyaps: Superficial or Profound?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hello everybody, I am Kankshita (Kanky) and this probably is my first ever post in the SGP forum. I am usually found wandering in the MJHT and FF sections like some zombie. LOL

Okay so, in my very first topic I am gonna pour out all I feel about the show so it's gonna be long.

I have grown up watching romantic comedies, and have always believed that TV does not have anything to offer but melodrama and some selected youth oriented shows, sadly with no sense however when I watch SGP, I find myself reflecting on the thoughts I've had in mind regarding Indian television and with this particular show, my thoughts have totally transformed and obviously for the good. 😳 I am a teenager with a disastrously inquisitive mind and hence before I proceed I would want to express my inclination in seeking an answer to my question. What does the Kashyap Family mean to you, superficial or profound?

I have points to justify both, though.

Superficial because in the real world, the idea itself of living in a joint family seems far too remote and inconvenient to most people and the rate of such people is rapidly increasing as the rate of people adopting the western culture is. Besides, for most realists - so much happiness is way too much to digest. In the show, each one of them seems to enjoy each other's company and every now and then neglect each other's privacy. Though, the family never minded that they had no private lives, After Suhaana entered the household, it did very much bother her in the beginning.

Also, today when people are so busy with their own lives, the show depicts perfect unity and love and whatnot, like they are all inseperable which I think does feel good, but only in terms of entertainment. Of course, shows are solely meant for the purpose of entertaining the audience but we Indians tend to relate with the show and establish bonds. Eh, we IFians know this well no? Badly! šŸ˜›

So much gist, affection and care is quite superficial for even though, love has always managed to sustain in every generation but this - is not how it is in real, anymore. Such families existed long before. Like my mother says! Her family had seven brothers including my Nanu and two kids each. 3 x 7 = 21 + My par Nana and Nani = 23 people in a three room house. How does that sound, people? Aah? šŸ¤” But Maa says they were all happy however now - when I look around - my Mamus and Maasis and various Nanus have nothing to do with eachother. My Naanus brush pass eachother but don't even bother to talk or even greet! Such is life!

And now - why real!

At first, they appear content and complete in eachother however the roots themselves of the family are neither content within. Complacency and their lives have nothing to do with each other, yet they've both held the family strong, weaved together. They are - Badi Maa and Radha Bua.

Every character in the show is one of a kind, but the above two make me ruminate and awe the MOST! What Badi Maa and Radha Bua suffer happens to every other Hindustaani Naari.

Their characters reflect the real women power, the naari inside probably all the aunties I see around gossiping in the evening. They irritate me bad with their talks, even my Mama. But honestly - they are all immensely strong, respectable and ultimate survivors and not victims! 😳 They are women of substance and gist, inspiring every young lady all the way.

On the other hand is Panna, and her husband's job affair. Ronaq's character I find, really close to my own father. A happy, extravagant man who isn't as strong as he always appears to be. Panna is his pillar of support yet at the end of the day - he finds himself sick of her, God knows why! My father has misunderstood my mother's support and concern too. Nonetheless - I have witnessed them both real close and on this topic I conclude with this little thing I know! Men can earn better, maybe but a woman is needed to run the family. And no man is complete without a woman, women are stronger and aren't that needful, if I may say that.

So, the above two things I believe make the show profound and worthwhile. Cause very matter of fact-ly I would mention, that the show not only has a lot of depth, but every character has one bit of every other Indian and does offer us so much to learn. Like, everyday!

And now I shall conclude, on the note that the show is immensely touching - anyway. I cry so bad, laugh my lungs out and whatnot . . everything put together!

Please do share your opinion wimme people, and pardon me if you find anything wrong. Excuse me, I am really young, 13 only. Thank you for the time, waiting eagerly for all the replies. Please use like if you agree!

Hail SGP! ā­ļø

-Kankshita
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think you made a beautiful post. I watch this show regularly tho not a regular at the forum. And honestly when i watched the first few epis i got a bit bored of the sugary taste but after Ishan-Suhana wedding i couldn't stop watching... i feel the show actually took off at that point and some of the real issues started showing up then.

THe first few epis showed and ideal family that loves each other immensely and deal with all problems together.. the kind that is idealized in every other serial but every other serial fails to show that unity all throughout the show. The difference in SGP is that the unity has remained throughout but not at the cost of being unreal. there are problems within and without. Its a regular old joe's family that deals with the same problems within the family and the outside pressures too. But they get over those issues thanks to the gavity of love between them and the strength of the women folks and the respect the men have for the institute of marriage.

Yes the women in the show do depict the essence of the survivor spirit that every Indian woman is, who holds close to the branches of her family and becomes its root. But i have also never seen a group of ideal husband's that i've seen in this show and that too each one has a different personality yet they share the same values and love and respect their woman. I think along with the strength and understanding of the women its the men who also make the family wheels run so smoothly. If any one of them had been less than, the family would fall apart.

Like if Ilesh was someone who misunderstood the taunts of Inder bhaiya or the comparison between Ishaan the ideal son and him... what would be Disha's condition. Or if Disha was someone who blamed Ilesh for the material things she lacked instead of standing by him, believing in his potential...

Like when Radha Bua is mean to her son everyone follows her rule tho they all feel its wrong but dont' want to offend her and no one questions the elders of the house who tell them to stay away from Radha Bua's son just because she doesnt' like him. Only when a relatively new member, Suhana, came along who seems to not have fully integrated herself into the family yet or fully accepted its value system yet, did the boat rock more than in the past. And Suhana's presence is what makes the family even stronger in that they realize their own strength and the weaknesses that they have overlooked.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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great post...superbly wirtten...but OMG u r only 13...😲

anyways..u r right...it is tough to find family like the kashyaps...as u have rightly pointed out..with so much unity and respect...once upon a time we had families like that..but what i feel is..why not have joint family system again..from the show we can see that even if privacy can be a issue at times we can sort that out...but apart from that we can still have a happy family...for me thats what SGP is...it gives us hopes...we can see even in the kashyaps so many prbs within the family...how the bhabis cudnt adjust with suhana..then ilesh's job prbs and all...but yet they are united...that can happen again...so for me...kashyaps family might be superficial now..bt we can have one like them for sure...and iam quite sure..i have written something which is wierd and confused..hope u understood what i am trying to say...šŸ˜‰
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Posted: 14 years ago
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13 years old and such intense thinking! I must applaud you girl for such a maturity and such well balanced POVs! šŸ‘ You seem to be an analytical person, and hence your points too are well structured, as if you are building a case 😃 Kudos once again! And now to reply to your topic -

I feel the Kashyap family is real, profound ... why? Because there are dysfunctional elements in the family - Elesh is an orphan, Inder/Panna's father has walked out on them leaving their mother alone and helpless, RB has a murky past and Ishaan's marriage is a sham (at least for now). So when there are so many emotional dependencies involved, it makes sense for them to stay together. And then there is Badi Maa, the linchpin - she has done everything in her power to keep the family together. The Kashyaps have weathered many storms together. If we look into each individual's bedroom, Elesh-Disha, Inder-Rajni, Ishaan-Suhana, Dada-Dadi, Alok-Rano, Badi Maa, Radha Bua - we will see tons of overhead. The superficial seeming happiness is only a mantra of trying to make the most of your life. It just goes to show that life is indeed a roller coaster ride, but if you choose to revel in your miseries, you will never give yourself a chance to recover from your gloominess. Life, at all, is what you make of it.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JC-

I think you made a beautiful post. I watch this show regularly tho not a regular at the forum. And honestly when i watched the first few epis i got a bit bored of the sugary taste but after Ishan-Suhana wedding i couldn't stop watching... i feel the show actually took off at that point and some of the real issues started showing up then.

THe first few epis showed and ideal family that loves each other immensely and deal with all problems together.. the kind that is idealized in every other serial but every other serial fails to show that unity all throughout the show. The difference in SGP is that the unity has remained throughout but not at the cost of being unreal. there are problems within and without. Its a regular old joe's family that deals with the same problems within the family and the outside pressures too. But they get over those issues thanks to the gavity of love between them and the strength of the women folks and the respect the men have for the institute of marriage.

Yes the women in the show do depict the essence of the survivor spirit that every Indian woman is, who holds close to the branches of her family and becomes its root. But i have also never seen a group of ideal husband's that i've seen in this show and that too each one has a different personality yet they share the same values and love and respect their woman. I think along with the strength and understanding of the women its the men who also make the family wheels run so smoothly. If any one of them had been less than, the family would fall apart.

Like if Ilesh was someone who misunderstood the taunts of Inder bhaiya or the comparison between Ishaan the ideal son and him... what would be Disha's condition. Or if Disha was someone who blamed Ilesh for the material things she lacked instead of standing by him, believing in his potential...

Like when Radha Bua is mean to her son everyone follows her rule tho they all feel its wrong but dont' want to offend her and no one questions the elders of the house who tell them to stay away from Radha Bua's son just because she doesnt' like him. Only when a relatively new member, Suhana, came along who seems to not have fully integrated herself into the family yet or fully accepted its value system yet, did the boat rock more than in the past. And Suhana's presence is what makes the family even stronger in that they realize their own strength and the weaknesses that they have overlooked.



Hey -JC- ! Your post's equally beautiful, I must say you're really observant! ā­ļø

I haven't been following the show, lately. I am totally on and off with it and yet - it is one of my fave shows, obvious reasons. LOL

Very well said, thank you so much for replying!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shwets1502

great post...superbly wirtten...but OMG u r only 13...😲
Yes, I am quite sure. šŸ˜†

anyways..u r right...it is tough to find family like the kashyaps...as u have rightly pointed out..with so much unity and respect...once upon a time we had families like that..but what i feel is..why not have joint family system again..from the show we can see that even if privacy can be a issue at times we can sort that out...but apart from that we can still have a happy family...for me thats what SGP is...it gives us hopes...we can see even in the kashyaps so many prbs within the family...how the bhabis cudnt adjust with suhana..then ilesh's job prbs and all...but yet they are united...that can happen again...so for me...kashyaps family might be superficial now..bt we can have one like them for sure...and iam quite sure..i have written something which is wierd and confused..hope u understood what i am trying to say...šŸ˜‰



I agree with you, Shweta. If that is your name. aah!

Well, umm... I know, such families hardly exist anymore for not everybody is able to cope up with the hardships of life and that's why I feel like all other shows, SGP has a superficial pinch as well. 😳 NO OFFENSE!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyMcbeth

13 years old and such intense thinking! I must applaud you girl for such a maturity and such well balanced POVs! šŸ‘ You seem to be an analytical person, and hence your points too are well structured, as if you are building a case 😃 Kudos once again! And now to reply to your topic -

Building a case? I hope that ain't another indication on my making an awesome lawyer or something! God no, I don't wanna study law. šŸ˜†

I feel the Kashyap family is real, profound ... why? Because there are dysfunctional elements in the family - Elesh is an orphan, Inder/Panna's father has walked out on them leaving their mother alone and helpless, RB has a murky past and Ishaan's marriage is a sham (at least for now). So when there are so many emotional dependencies involved, it makes sense for them to stay together. And then there is Badi Maa, the linchpin - she has done everything in her power to keep the family together. The Kashyaps have weathered many storms together. If we look into each individual's bedroom, Elesh-Disha, Inder-Rajni, Ishaan-Suhana, Dada-Dadi, Alok-Rano, Badi Maa, Radha Bua - we will see tons of overhead. The superficial seeming happiness is only a mantra of trying to make the most of your life. It just goes to show that life is indeed a roller coaster ride, but if you choose to revel in your miseries, you will never give yourself a chance to recover from your gloominess. Life, at all, is what you make of it.




Precisely. 😳 You've put across your point really well. And thank you very much. =]
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Posted: 14 years ago
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kanks, just awesome post and after knowing so much, talking with u abt the kashyaps and reading ur post theres so many thing i want to write but unfortunately my thoughts r not getting organized so either i ll write it when it is or i ll discuss with u in the CC :)
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Originally posted by: talkativetaurus

kanks, just awesome post and after knowing so much, talking with u abt the kashyaps and reading ur post theres so many thing i want to write but unfortunately my thoughts r not getting organized so either i ll write it when it is or i ll discuss with u in the CC :)



Do whatever you wish to, aah Aafzz! Thanks! 😳
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Originally posted by: LadyMcbeth

13 years old and such intense thinking! I must applaud you girl for such a maturity and such well balanced POVs! šŸ‘ You seem to be an analytical person, and hence your points too are well structured, as if you are building a case 😃 Kudos once again! And now to reply to your topic -

I feel the Kashyap family is real, profound ... why? Because there are dysfunctional elements in the family - Elesh is an orphan, Inder/Panna's father has walked out on them leaving their mother alone and helpless, RB has a murky past and Ishaan's marriage is a sham (at least for now). So when there are so many emotional dependencies involved, it makes sense for them to stay together. And then there is Badi Maa, the linchpin - she has done everything in her power to keep the family together. The Kashyaps have weathered many storms together. If we look into each individual's bedroom, Elesh-Disha, Inder-Rajni, Ishaan-Suhana, Dada-Dadi, Alok-Rano, Badi Maa, Radha Bua - we will see tons of overhead. The superficial seeming happiness is only a mantra of trying to make the most of your life. It just goes to show that life is indeed a roller coaster ride, but if you choose to revel in your miseries, you will never give yourself a chance to recover from your gloominess. Life, at all, is what you make of it.


Interesting post! I would not have guessed you were only 13 by your post for sure. lol

But I totally agree with LadyM here. Esp. the bits in bold. SO well said LadyM! šŸ‘šŸ‘

My thoughts EXACTLY. And this is why I love SGP.

I don't think superficial is the right word to use for the Kashyap family or this show for that matter. In fact I would say it's the OPPOSITE of superficial. It is anything but!

The so called star one shows you mentioned, along with 90% of other Indian shows is what I would call superficial.

This is a show where actual FEELINGS are explored. The depth of each character, their situation and how they deal with every problem that comes their way is actually EXPLORED in this show.

And yes, on the outside it may appear that this family is always happy and perfect so to speak, but as the show progresses we realize that everything is not as it appears. There are many layers, issues, conflicts to these characters and the whole point of showing them living together is how they overcome these issues. How by staying together, they can manage to deal with their problems so effectively and actually grow closer as a result.

This show is actually an example of not just sharing your joys but also your sorrows. The show's main strength is the positivity. And I think it's VERY real. This positivity is what we all need to overcome all the problems we face.

And like LadyM said, all the members of the family have this past- as a result they have this emotional dependence on each other. It's because they have seen what the loss of a family member, or separation in the family can result in.

It's not they AUTOMATICALLY are this perfect and living in unity. They work hard, they TRY to keep the family together always.

Like LadyM said, Badi Ma as a pillar is a great help, but it's also the rest of the family members' involvement. They consciously MAKE AN EFFORT to stay together.

Have we not seen various problems the Kashyap parivaar has dealt with in the past? Had it been any other show, it would've been very simple to just kick a certain family member out and just ignore the main ROOT of the problem. But in this family, they actually DEAL with their problems face to face.

That is EXACTLY why they stay together. That at the end of everything, they have love for each other. And it's not superficial. If it WAS superficial, the family would not have lasted this long. They actually CARE about each other. And this love, this positivity is what gives them the strength to move on, solve each problem and stay together.

And exactly as LadyM said, the family's life is anything but perfect. It's a roller coaster ride. But what they make of it is what counts.

The love, the bond these family members share is beautiful and inspiring. They are always THERE for each other, and I think that's what counts the most.

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