Andha Vishwas - Page 2

Originally posted by: annete

Kumud ,Kumud el contraire😔

How does your story go ?😕

When cruel men,infidels n criminal come to show 😲

The only one with heart of gold you care to love no more...😭

Originally posted by: Arshics

Sahi baat Anu, perfectly said

Little sundari

Has lost her brains

And doesn't know where to find them

Leave her alone, and she will come home

Bringing some sense behind her!

Arshicsji, your bytes are a pleasurable alternative to being subjected to the 'old wine in new bottle'. All the people involved in a show must work towards its vision and when there is absolutely no vision things go awry and aimless. The creatives have already lost the plot and their direction. Their chosen theme seems to have backfired now. Once again owing to the lack of prowess and panache the narrative has fallen flat. They took enormous time to concoct the Mumbai plot and the initial treatment showed great promise and painted the leading characters in the best light which was truly refreshing, period. Presently both Mumbai and RN sequences 'boast' frivolous hackneyed rehash, fabricated circumstances, lazy contrivances and shoddy scripting. The problem lies more on a fundamental level - i.e the storytelling. Initially only the Mumbai track gave the impression of having some substance and the whole track relied on the key character prashant, the mystery associated with him, his portrayal, unfolding his story and its repercussions on the leads' life. But the creatives failed to create context and conflict in a plausible and feasible way, build his character with expectations and along the way explore his motivations and character. The core elements such as setting, plot, character, backstory and detailing have not been explored logically and adequately, hence disorderly and disjointed narrative and no finesse and reasoning to the events and episodes. Here the theme itself is indeterminate and doesn't fall under suspense thriller or murder mystery because of the lack of well-thoughtout execution that fits the respective genre. We may encounter a murder in the track. That is it. The enjoyment of a suspense drama largely depends on the unpredictability and the likelihood of different consequences which has never been the case in respect of the entire series of similar tracks in our show. No surprises and no expectations in the narrative make the suspense or mystery element go for a toss. The writers are not well versed with the nitty-gritty of their favourite genre. Actually the Mumbai sequence had the potential albeit the cliche formula of 'obsession'. But the inept handling of the key character prashant and the amateurish way of developing the mystery angle led to this fiasco. Well-etched villain characters are the ones we love to hate. But prashant character depiction is just the reverse. Though he is sufficiently creepy he is just a stereotyped evil character. Our cvs can't weave 'greyness' and smartness into a character. Here the setback is he doesn't have a solid back story, for the viewers to relate to his character. The cvs don't make him seem 'real' nor have they explored his emotions, eccentricity, his own agenda and goals. The actor is fairly good and underplays his part. From the beginning the triangular aspect of the plot (s, k & p) is not handled cleverly, but in a haphazard fashion. Prashant should have exploited saras's hectic work schedule and kumud's humdrum existence and tried to get assimilated into samud household, thereby earning her trust. That way saras's possessiveness and insecurity would have come into the forefront leading to differences between the two men. The writers could have played with human emotions rather than the silly 'misunderstanding' issue. This calls for the subtlety and intelligence in writing. The weirdo, supposedly as having a menacing demeanour is really reduced to a laughing stock with his magical accessories (window, binoculars, the placement of his flat) and copycat, underhand tricks. Writers could have added quirks to his behaviour instead of the overdone show of lechery which is uncalled-for. A backstory that unravelled simultaneously with attention to detail and new prominent and absorbing characters would have enhanced this track. Furthermore currently the narrative is unnecessarily being rushed in a forced and farfetched manner. Actually the proceedings should rather be fast paced than being 'hurried'. Here it is too simplistic and abrupt devoid of any interesting twists, development of character history,conflict,situations and suspense. The crux, essence and the core concept of the show have already been done away with. The writers have preconceptions and unconscious assimilation of the stereotyped images of the leading characters and the superficial and formulaic depiction of their relationship. This casual manner of their approach no longer rankles since I (or we?) have become impervious to it. The original concept of 'samud' is completely lost now not just because of kumud character butchery and mishandling the samud bonding, but also due to the lack of variation and excitement, tedious repetition and routine and especially their flavourless romance. The loyal fans of the jodi are already deprived of their privileges and don't get their fair share of some 'real', intimate, uninhibited display of romance. (Their hugs are only of 3 types - desperate, comforting, reassuring. In some 'close' moments k's awkwardness lacking physical ease is apparent. Their heart to heart convo on bed with a safe distance in-between simply puts me off. Even in the recent saras 'behosh' scene while waiting for the car she didn't allow him to lean on her, his head hanging in the air and nor kept his head on her lap inside the car. Poor direction or anybody's reluctance & contract (!) issues? The absence of physical intimacy (not overt) ruins their chemistry and holds no allure or appeal). Cvs have never been consistent with samud relationship and become the target for accusations of vacillating stand. Based on their fabricated drama they both look the epitome of ideal and perfect couple or go through a incompatible and fragile relationship. They are exploited for bizarre purposes with pretty puerile issues which is obviously out of keeping with their innate characteristics, strong bonding and their turbulent past life. The cvs again have resorted to the merciless, ruthless manipulation of kumud's character. It is proven that their perspective on kumud is subject to change. To meet the needs of a certain absurd context and conditions the level-headed kumud is often projected as wrong-headed and naive. For ages she has been blind, self-destroying and dimwit. The most irksome factor for the fans is that saras always doesn't figure high on her list of priorities. The worst sin ever committed by cvs is that kumud once upon a time known for her exemplary behaviour is now portrayed as outrageously dumb and obtuse. I myself have already written material worth a thesis about this character butchery and now for me it is all over and done with. Much like the cvs the lead actors are also stuck in a rut, their performances have become monotonous and ineffectual. Even their reunion or reconciliation scenes don't nowadays click with me due to its mechanical and repetitive nature and the samud moments of today have no real emotional connect, purpose or relevance. I can't quite relate to any aspect of RN tomfoolery despite my earnest attempt. The wayward son of LN is lovesick? and the airhead Anushka has a traumatised FB? (!!!!). The cvs keep dishing out these senseless and endless drivel and tumbling in the name of 'tracks'.

Arshi, I cannot believe we are all here discussing away as our ex-favourite romantic show does extreme shape-shifting and stretchhhes into a horror/crime/thriller show...

Hey Arshiji

Originally posted by: happychappy

Arshi, I cannot believe we are all here discussing away as our ex-favourite romantic show does extreme shape-shifting and stretchhhes into a horror/crime/thriller show...

I tell you that Gautam Rode ----- he has So Much So Much Sooo Muuuch to answer for.

Lovely to be back on the forum after my break... As Mitsu said, we have all got more from this show than we expected... GR's talent of course, (but also in terms of IF & twitter friends...😃)

Originally posted by: lal04

. But the creatives failed to create context and conflict in a plausible and feasible way, build his character with expectations and along the way explore his motivations and character. The core elements such as setting, plot, character, backstory and detailing have not been explored logically and adequately, hence disorderly and disjointed narrative and no finesse and reasoning to the events and episodes. Though he is sufficiently creepy he is just a stereotyped evil character. Our cvs can't weave 'greyness' and smartness into a character. Here the setback is he doesn't have a solid back story, for the viewers to relate to his character. The cvs don't make him seam 'real' nor have they explored his emotions, eccentricity, his own agenda and goals. The actor is fairly good and underplays his part. From the beginning the triangular aspect of the plot (s, k & p) is not handled cleverly, but in a haphazard fashion. Prashant should have exploited saras's hectic work schedule and kumud's humdrum existence and tried to get assimilated into samud household, thereby earning her trust. That way saras's possessiveness and insecurity would have come into the forefront leading to differences between the two men. The writers could have played with human emotions rather than the silly 'misunderstanding' issue. This calls for the subtlety and intelligence in writing. Actually the proceedings should rather be fast paced than being 'hurried'. Here it is too simplistic and abrupt devoid of any interesting twists, development of character history,conflict,situations and suspense. The crux, essence and the core concept of the show have already been done away with. The writers have preconceptions and unconscious assimilation of the stereotyped images of the leading characters and the superficial and formulaic depiction of their relationship. This casual manner of their approach no longer rankles since I (or we?) have become impervious to it. (Their hugs are only of 3 types - desperate, comforting, reassuring. In some 'close' moments k's awkwardness lacking physical ease is apparent. Their heart to heart convo on bed with a safe distance in-between simply puts me off. Even in the recent saras 'behosh' scene while waiting for the car she didn't allow him to lean on her, his head hanging in the air and nor kept his head on her lap inside the car. They are exploited for bizarre purposes with pretty puerile issues which is obviously out of keeping with their innate characteristics, strong bonding and their turbulent past life. The cvs again have resorted to the merciless, ruthless manipulation of kumud's character. It is proven that their perspective on kumud is subject to change. To meet the needs of a certain absurd context and conditions the level-headed kumud is often projected as wrong-headed and naive. For ages she has been blind, self-destroying and dimwit. The most irksome factor for the fans is that saras always doesn't figure high on her list of priorities. The worst sin ever committed by cvs is that kumud once upon a time known for her exemplary behaviour is now portrayed as outrageously dumb and obtuse. I myself have already written material worth a thesis about this character butchery and now for me it is all over and done with. Much like the cvs the lead actors are also stuck in a rut, their performances have become monotonous and ineffectual. Even their reunion or reconciliation scenes don't nowadays click with me due to its mechanical and repetitive nature and the samud moments of today have no real emotional connect, purpose or relevance. I can't quite relate to any aspect of RN tomfoolery despite my earnest attempt. The wayward son of LN is lovesick? and the airhead Anushka has a traumatised FB? (!!!!). The cvs keep dishing out these senseless and endless drivel and tumbling in the name of 'tracks'.

Originally posted by: Arshics

Same here Jyo, she is so clueless about Saras ? And it bothers me no end when she calls him prashant ji, and believes every word he says. Very very poor writing, to show the lady believe a new neighbour over her husband, no matter how nice the neighbour has been, we stand by our own and first trust them and only after that an outsider!

One incident, and Prashant is confident that Kumud will believe him? After all that Saras has been and done, Kumud should know that Saras has tremendous courage and strength and can handle stress phenomenally well.

But as Anu says, CVs ka amnesia track chal raha hai. Yeh wohi Saras hai jo shuru se work related stress ko manage karta aaya hai, burn down of factory, to cancelled orders, to working in bd house, he can cope with stress exceedingly well. But Kumud ke dimaag ki ghanti nahi bajegi. Kyon ki Prashant ji ki diagnosis hai. And Prashant ji is the best psychologist in the world !

Originally posted by: happychappy

Arshi, I cannot believe we are all here discussing away as our ex-favourite romantic show does extreme shape-shifting and stretchhhes into a horror/crime/thriller show...

I tell you that Gautam Rode ----- he has So Much So Much Sooo Muuuch to answer for.

Lovely to be back on the forum after my break... As Mitsu said, we have all got more from this show than we expected... GR's talent of course, (but also in terms of IF & twitter friends...😃)

Arshi ...