Why Pramad is a SORE loser... - Page 2

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Till recently even I had a little sympathy for the guy. Maybe he was neglected, maybe he didn't receive the necessary love from his Dad. He even got forced in to this marriage...poor guy no?

NOT AT ALL. Does he not talk back to his father all the time? Does he not rebel against every little thing? Does he not come home drunk shamelessly in front of his parents? Well if he has the will power and rebellious streak to do all that then surely he has it in him to refuse the marriage with Kumud. Or was that a drunken yes? How easy is it for us to blame our parents for not giving us this or that in life but then still make demands to fulfil their other wishes. It's just a sign of a WEAK person.

I know some people here hate Kumud so much that all their sympathies are with Pramad but I really didn't know that the below actions could truly be justified:

-Forcing alcohol down anyone's mouth like Pramad did to Kumud.
-Taking her to the edge of the cliff on your very first wedding night.
-Bruising her physically and mentally.
-Continuously throwing glass near her which could easily injure her.
-Claiming that Kumud must have multiple lovers (Um yeh he's no Vanraj!!)
-gloating that someone has died. What a poor excuse of a man he is.

You find this guy justified? If he has the strength to constantly disagree with his Dad then he should have had the strength to say no to this marriage. Forced marriages do not give licenses to violence! And those supporting his actions...really? like seriously?

Having a bad childhood is one thing (which Pramad didn't! It was one incident!!) but having a violent nature is another.

Originally posted by: anonee

Agree with all you say (in bold) but my sympathies are NOT with Pramad. I abhor Prama's behavior.

But more than that I am repelled by Kumud (the most educated lady in Ratnagiri who is exposed to the global community via internet) ka foolish belief that she should silently tolerate all of Pramad's behavior because she can reform him singlehandedly without assistance from others even though Pramad clearly states that he does not want to reform.

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Till recently even I had a little sympathy for the guy. Maybe he was neglected, maybe he didn't receive the necessary love from his Dad. He even got forced in to this marriage...poor guy no?

NOT AT ALL. Does he not talk back to his father all the time? Does he not rebel against every little thing? Does he not come home drunk shamelessly in front of his parents? Well if he has the will power and rebellious streak to do all that then surely he has it in him to refuse the marriage with Kumud. Or was that a drunken yes? How easy is it for us to blame our parents for not giving us this or that in life but then still make demands to fulfil their other wishes. It's just a sign of a WEAK person.

Maam Pramaad's issue is not about not receiving luxuries or material necessities Its purely on not receiving the affection when most needed. Furthermore, from whom he received painted an ugly picture. He being at a vulnerable best lapped it up.

In my replies to other's post even I have said that Pramaad is a WEAK person. But a person becomes strong or weak either due to upbringing or situations. In Pramad case both were not favorable.

The person who could have been his support system Kalika (sent by his mother) also wants him to be weak as she can exploit him and keep him in her control for her ulterior motive of having stability in her life. She does not wish to be the bahu rani and do raaj but just have basic stability so as she can live a decent life in terms of roti kapda makaan.


I know some people here hate Kumud so much that all their sympathies are with Pramad but I really didn't know that the below actions could truly be justified:

Most people who are sympathizing with Pramaad have their sympathies for him not having a proper guidance through his parents, them providing no support system, not reforming him before forcing a marriage on him and most importantly forcing a marriage on him thus intentionally spoiling three lives Kalika Pramaad and the would be wife which is now Kumud and since it is Kumud in question even SC cause if Pramaad would have not been there then in all probability SC and Kumud would be married and enjoying eternal eye locks 😆. Anyways your arguement of him being a rebel then he should have opposed the marriage. Well you must have seen in reel or real life that when parents decide to emotionally manipulate to force the children, most children do give in and agree for marriages against their wishes.
Now coming to the below mentioned list I too do not feel that the following acts are justified either Let me take each of them individually

-Forcing alcohol down anyone's mouth like Pramad did to Kumud. Well Kumud forced him to drink milk. Milk does not hurt but it was against his wish He was doing just the same to her would be one of the arguements. Human who forces another against his will is a devil. So bother Kumud and Pramaad are playing tit for tat. BUT I still will not agree with Pramaad action. Whatever the other did your action is in your control.
-Taking her to the edge of the cliff on your very first wedding night. Yes that was nasty But agar woh hero hota toh like one of popular TM on this forum said about another hero doing something similar or worse in the serial 'But he is a man after all Garam Khoon or some rubbish of the kind and like I had said to her Maam whatever be the case he needs to step down Such behavior is unacceptable for a man Hero ho ya kuch bhi
-Bruising her physically and mentally. Agree though Kumud also tortures him by her presence and interference constantly. But I guess she is the victim cause she is the woman.
-Continuously throwing glass near her which could easily injure her. Completely agree Like I said before your actions are in your control
-Claiming that Kumud must have multiple lovers (Um yeh he's no Vanraj!!) Maam Whatever he says to Kumud may be nasty But Pramaad is not with multiple lovers either. He has a Kalika and only a Kalika
-gloating that someone has died. What a poor excuse of a man he is. Well if my memory is not failing me SC gave Pramaad the impression right why blame Pramaad for it.

You find this guy justified? If he has the strength to constantly disagree with his Dad then he should have had the strength to say no to this marriage. Forced marriages do not give licenses to violence! And those supporting his actions...really? like seriously?

Like I said above about forced marriage I will not repeat But I again agree with you that they do not give anybody the right to be violent to another human. BUT like i said in another post of mine If Pramaad and Kumud were to be the supposed "Couple" then all that the hero does would have been justified left right and center Just because Pramaad is an possible (i say this cause I think the makers themselves don't know how to build his character) antagonist what he does makes him a monster

Pramad was just testing Kumud to prove a point that what all she is doing is a farce. He did not ever want to consummate his marriage. Again he is quite honest that she is not wanted and he has repeated himself on several occasions For him its Kalika and him not Kumud and him. Would it not be frustrating if someone is forcefully trying to trespass into your life and privacy? Yes it would be and that is exactly what Kumud and SC are doing.

Most are trying to see another layer in Pramaad character are ones whom you feel hate Kumud. Yes we hate Kumud for the following reasons.

1. anonee tryforceful said it appropriately - Why are the makers hell bent on making Kumud a epitome of sacrifice or sati savitri whose respect social status etc will come crashing down if she leaves her legally wedded husband who abuses her physically and mentally

2. Kumud is supposedly a strong willed woman Can't she not take a decision for her self respect. Why does she allow every single person including SC walk all over it For God's sake Woman is known as Possessor of Power Excercise it Make your decision and move out Kumud is making life hell for herself Pramad Kalika Saras Pramaad family Her family for Kusum ...the list is endless ...Aree go to your Parents or with Saras if you want and life is back to normal for so many and damn hell your 'Naam ka pati' will be more than happy

Kumud leaving is the answer and not Kalika ...

3. But Kumud refused to do all this cause of her tall ego which is not letting her accept defeat. Even when now SC is saying the same. SC is right a marriage works when both husband wife make an effort Here it is never gonna work. But it is only Kumud's ego and hence she answered aur haar maan loo Is winning more important than putting so many people through agony Yes this whole Sudharo Pramaad is only for prolonging the story and resulting in butchering of characters SC I sincerely will sit down and read the book once again to to flush out this nasty picture that makers are forming of you and Kumud yours too.

Anyways but in all this Kumud is messing with Kusum and SC also.

4. And the most important Kumud keeps professing truth Kya saachai ki rut laga raki hai jab khud ek baar properly saach nahi bol sakte ... Point is Pramad are at least honest and upfront NO PRETENSIONS.

Having a bad childhood is one thing (which Pramad didn't! It was one incident!!) but having a violent nature is another. Maam when one's personal space is encroached people do get violent Point is again I would say that I am not justifying I am just giving logic to the behavior. I do not support this behavior.


Off the topic since someone in your thread talked about SD ... Well what she said to Kumud was not wrong. Man and Wife should deal with the personal matters especially related to intimacy themselves. But she was not entirely right She should have assured Kumud that since the whole thing has turned ugly she would have someone counsel Pramaad AND this is what bothers us That if Pramaad left studying why did nobody bother He is an alcoholic why didn't anyone send him to AA If he is vices why not cut out his source of income If they know Kalika was the problem why was she not physically distanced from Pramaad WHY???

Originally posted by: DJ..

All that I am doing is trying to search a layer in each character

But unfortunately each character is being badly butchered or neglected for the sake of TRP

and may lord give peace to Tripathiji's soul which must be writhing endless and will till this butchering continues

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Till recently even I had a little sympathy for the guy. Maybe he was neglected, maybe he didn't receive the necessary love from his Dad. He even got forced in to this marriage...poor guy no?

NOT AT ALL. Does he not talk back to his father all the time? Does he not rebel against every little thing? Does he not come home drunk shamelessly in front of his parents? Well if he has the will power and rebellious streak to do all that then surely he has it in him to refuse the marriage with Kumud. Or was that a drunken yes? How easy is it for us to blame our parents for not giving us this or that in life but then still make demands to fulfil their other wishes. It's just a sign of a WEAK person.

I know some people here hate Kumud so much that all their sympathies are with Pramad but I really didn't know that the below actions could truly be justified:

-Forcing alcohol down anyone's mouth like Pramad did to Kumud.
-Taking her to the edge of the cliff on your very first wedding night.
-Bruising her physically and mentally.
-Continuously throwing glass near her which could easily injure her.
-Claiming that Kumud must have multiple lovers (Um yeh he's no Vanraj!!)
-gloating that someone has died. What a poor excuse of a man he is.

You find this guy justified? If he has the strength to constantly disagree with his Dad then he should have had the strength to say no to this marriage. Forced marriages do not give licenses to violence! And those supporting his actions...really? like seriously?

Having a bad childhood is one thing (which Pramad didn't! It was one incident!!) but having a violent nature is another.