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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: *Reemz*



Escapism is one of Saras' personality traits (flaws?!) . He knows he is weak and not even wrong when he says he cannot have another person dependent on him. I don't think he could handle a relationship right now either. Kumud did everything she could to console him but honestly, I missed the ghamandi Kumud 😛



Saras indeed was too wear atm to handle a relationship and thus their love failed it's first test. As i said are they eternal lovers right now? No..they are only on their way to become that.

Ghamandi Kumud! Oh Man! You've no idea how much I love the character of Kumud. It's so real and I'm sure every girl of today's age can identify with her somewhere. I remember raving bout the confession episode to everyone. God knows how many times I suggested this show to people at that time coz of the bold confession by kumud and her not being jealous of Saras' closeness with others. You'll see me here when I'm too zealous coz of the epi 😆 This is not because Jen is kumud but because somewhere Kumud is me,u and all the other gals who identify with her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Why should Kumud stop to think about what Saras is going through? Oh wait, she DID. She asked him what's wrong. She told him no matter what she will stay with him. She doesn't care about anyone else, she wants to be with him. She gave him all the assurance anyone would need.


When a to-be Bride is told her marriage has been called off just two days before, I think she has all the reason to be shattered for herself and her family


@ Reemz,
Agree completely...here we are discussing Sunny's reality chack. But what is missed is even a grosser injustice to her...for however much crass abuses Saraswati or DB had suffered, they were not asked to get off and get married to 'other person'. For all his thin technical excuses, Kumd is ALREADY married to him for all purpose.🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
In the precap old kumud was back so I think she wants revenge
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
I understand why every single person is coming from, in support of Kumud...

But, just as Saras is said to have wiped the slate clean on all his promises and commitments, why is it looking like Kumud has forgotten all his gestures of love, and why doesnt she wonder what state he is in, if he is now not listening to her pleas? Does she actually believe him to be that insensitive, insincere and weak when he is in his senses? Then I dont think she loves him at all!

As for him not talking to Kumud, men dont typically discuss their distress with their loved one they bottle up! Discussion as therapy is typically a female trait.

As I said in Friday's CB thread, the main reason for all the high drama is the family, not Kumud herself. If Kumud and Saras were individuals dealing with the problem, she would have reacted differently. The family, as it so often does, amplifies the emotional pitch of the situation...

Oh, I have to confess to a slight bias. I am married to someone who said no before he said yes. He was worth waiting for, and I did. No families were involved, and no drama. Obviously, being the more mundane type of love story, levels of complication were not of tragic levels!! I am always going to be on Saras' side here :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: happychappy


I agree with every word here, Smrth, but...

Saras is not his right mind, that does happen to people, we are all more fragile than we like to think!

Kumud has a whole family's shoulders to lean on, Saras just has Sunny

She is definitely less fragile than him, has always been, and clearly knows how to deal with the shock, when he clearly does not know...


I agree, with you happychappy, he has a reason to feel what he is feeling, that's why I keep saying wajah Jo bhi ho, for its the cross of his actions that both he and Kumud will bear, while its true that he is not thinking straight, but that doesn't right the wrong for a bride ditched at the altar, there's a lot more at stake than heartbreak
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think kumud is fed up he broke her heart twice maybe she fell foolishly in love to see that saras has issues
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: happychappy

I understand why every single person is coming from, in support of Kumud...


But, just as Saras is said to have wiped the slate clean on all his promises and commitments, why is it looking like Kumud has forgotten all his gestures of love, and wonder what state he is in, if he is now not listening to her pleas? Does she actually believe him to be that insensitive, insincere and weak when he is in his senses? Then I dont think she loves him at all!

As for him not talking to Kumud, men dont typically discuss their distress with their loved one they bottle up! Discussion as therapy is typically a female trait.

As I said in Friday's CB thread, the main reason for all the high drama is the family, not Kumud herself. If Kumud and Saras were individuals dealing with the problem, she would have reacted differently. The family, as it so often does, amplifies the emotional pitch of the situation...

Oh, I have to confess to a slight bias. I am married to someone who said no before he said yes. He was worth waiting for, and I did. No families were involved, and no drama. Obviously, being the more mundane type of love story, levels of complication were not of tragic levels!! I am always going to be on Saras' side here :)

This is similar to what I wrote. The stigma and trauma her family has to go through is going to push her. If they were just 2 individuals, it would have been different. But what Kumud is doing is realistic. She is a responsible daughter and draws huge strength from her family. Her other strength her love is rejecting her. So, even though I am lilttle sympathetic to Saras I am more sympathetic to Kumud in her decision of marrying others. She can't reject family when that is all she has now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy

I understand why every single person is coming from, in support of Kumud...


But, just as Saras is said to have wiped the slate clean on all his promises and commitments, why is it looking like Kumud has forgotten all his gestures of love, and wonder what state he is in, if he is now not listening to her pleas? Does she actually believe him to be that insensitive, insincere and weak when he is in his senses? Then I dont think she loves him at all!

As for him not talking to Kumud, men dont typically discuss their distress with their loved one they bottle up! Discussion as therapy is typically a female trait.

As I said in Friday's CB thread, the main reason for all the high drama is the family, not Kumud herself. If Kumud and Saras were individuals dealing with the problem, she would have reacted differently. The family, as it so often does, amplifies the emotional pitch of the situation...

Oh, I have to confess to a slight bias. I am married to someone who said no before he said yes. He was worth waiting for, and I did. No families were involved, and no drama. Obviously, being the more mundane type of love story, levels of complication were not of tragic levels!! I am always going to be on Saras' side here :)


Not only that the families are involved, but also the timing - just 2 days before the wedding,

Think also, he said no, then said yes, then made tall promises, then public proposal, then went back to no rishta for me and said no!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: neet06

I always look forward to your posts even though I might not comment on them regularly (I'm lazy as hell).. Sometimes when I'm disappointed with an episode, your crispy bytes make me look at it from a different perspective and enjoy the episode. And today, I whole-heartedly agree with your analysis.. Word for word..


Everyone keeps comparing this show to HDDCS.. But I think its more of Devdas than HDDCS.. A distraught Devdas arguing with his father and leaving his house and a desperately in love Paro behind who went against all societal norms just to be with him.. If Devdas sent Paro a letter asking her to forget they ever had any feelings for each other and let all the questions she's asked him remain unanswered, Saras called off their wedding over the phone in the blind distress of the moment.. Again, leaving all of Kumud's questions unanswered.. Like Kumud said.. "Uske paas koi jawab nahi hai.."

In Devdas, Dev returns to watch his Paro getting married to someone else.. And here too, if the spoilers are right, Saras will watch Kumud getting married..

Do I feel Saras is at fault? Yes. Agreed that he is distraught, broken from within, thrown back into the pitch darkness of his past.. The first time he rejected the proposal, I did not have any complaints against him.. He realized his insecurities and was willing to admit his commitment phobia.. But this time round.. I feel its unforgivable.. He knows he can reach out from the pitch blackness surrounding him and he'll find Kumud there.. To bring him back to life.. Yet, not once, did he think of confessing his fears and insecurities her.. He made commitments to her.. Made promises and wove dreams for her.. He had no qualms even in consummating his relationship with her because he loved her so deeply.. Yet at the first knock of his past on his door, he let go of her hand and shut himself off...

I am so glad Sunny held a mirror in front of him and showed him how he was doing exactly what his dad was doing.. All my applause goes to Sunny today..

As for Kumud.. I must say, it really broke my heart to watch her today.. Like you said, she begged, she pleaded, she even begged in the name of her family but Saras was too surrounded by his own misery to see any of it.. I am going to draw a parallel to Devdas again.. Paro waited 12 years for Devdas, loved him beyond love yet he rejected her.. But Paro was not the kind to wallow in her misery.. Neither is Kumud.. She always placed her family and her family's honor above all else.. Whether it be when he first rejected the proposal (she asked him to come say it in front of her family), when they consummated their relationship (she was more distraught at having betrayed her family's trust than having experienced the most beautiful moment of her life) and again, she won't let her family be slighted like this.. Which is why her decision to get married on the same day is in line with her character..

If for Saras, his mother and his past has always taken precedence over everything else, for Kumud, her family gets priority over everything else..

It was a critical juncture..

Saras chose his past and Kumud chose her future..

I am sure.. They both will probably regret their decisions later on but for now.. Their paths are separate.. Maybe parallel but separate nevertheless..

I also have to mention, Guman ke dus chote vaar khaali gaye tho kya? Ek sahi chaal sahi time pe aisi chalayi ki sab kuch bikhar gaya.. I thought she was a very ineffectual vamp till now but kya baazi kheli hai Guman ne iss baar... Ek hi chaal mein saari kahani hi palat gayi..




Loved the parallel with Devdas and loved your take on Saras Kumud dynamics, do keep posting on CB!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I was actually dreading to watch the complete episode today.. but I did nevertheless.. Gautam and Jennifer- simply superb in their portrayals of Saras and Kumud... VC - BRILLIANT! Because he is less demonstrative than the earlier actor, his rage and outburst looked more real..

I don't have any other word except for selfish to describe Saras in the first scene..nothing to say in his defence so I will blame his disturbed psychological state as a reason for the behaviour (He did look like a pale corpse, without any feelings or senses ) How else can one explain, him thinking of only and only his loss in the whole deal..mein andhkar mein doob gaya hoon ..mera koi pariwar nahi hai...mein zinda lash hoon!!!!!! It was me, me and me all the way.. Not even a threat on her life when she says she won't be able to live without him, could melt his heart? Tumhe jeena hoga?? says who?! someone who himself has no strength to cope with his own crisis..? LaxmiNandan might have also felt the same way for Saraswati, that she will live..Lucky for Saras, Kumud is not weak like his mother..and she actually cares about her family way too much to make them suffer with her! Was Kumud wrong in pointing out that because he is a coward who is scared of confrontation, he earlier used a letter and now a phone call to convey his decision? I don't think so..

Has he left her with any choice? her repeated assurances, even urge to come to her once and see that nothing's changed, couldn't touch him.. Calling off the wedding by a phone call from a distant land, 2 days prior to the wedding, without any explanation.. and she is not supposed to break down or panic but keep her personal shock and trauma aside and think of what might have gone wrong on the other end.. and then of ways to fix it for him AGAIN!!!! Are you kiddin' me?!!! What ego is she accused of ? the girl was on her knees begging .. and I feel that it will not be her hurt ego or pride, that will make her agree to her father's decision to marry Pramad.. It will be a daughter, trying to salvage the honor of the father and family.. she will not let the family's reputation be at stake for her.. the promise she made to herself of not shedding a tear for him and forgetting him, is her hurt pride ..but not the decision to get married.. . the fear in her eyes of having to witness their shock and grief when she breaks the news to them ... my heart went out to the girl..

So LN had no clue about Saras..where he was and what he was upto.. so exactly how was he planning to take the baraat to RN? Without the groom?! weakness and escapism- these are the two flaws Saras has inherited from his parents.. Outrageous! The way father and son both hung up on the phone, failing to give any explanation..

What could have Danny possibly done in this circumstance? Not much if you ask me..

I was thinking how they would justify Kumud's immediate marriage to Pramad under current circumstances... now it does seem justified to a great extent...


Edited by vaishali-AR - 12 years ago

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