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Arshics

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Posted: 12 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: kaadal

Yes hotdogg, that is what I am not happy about but I will still wait till tomorrow to comment more on this. I am really hoping we don't have to wipe out what we have seen till date to move forward.

I think it's the first reaction of a broken man, and not a final decision being communicated

He has lived with pain far too long, and love for Kumud is too new, so regression is natural

I liked that his instinct is that once again all is lost, because that has been his reality since his childhood.

He may worship Saraswati, but Saraswati the mother losing out to Saraswati the wife - that's where it all started with him, the message that when you lose one, you lose it all!

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Posted: 12 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: happychappy

I think it's called the catapult effect. Only if you stretch the band to the fullest extent one way, does it have a smashing effect when ultimately released, and goes twang...😕

Apologies if I didnt make sense.😲

Explain plizz, nahin samajh aaya

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Arshics

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Posted: 12 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: littles12
Everyone is really upset about the precap!
But I'm like really excited for it! Lol! I love samud as much as all of u!
But then again there is no love without fight nd there is no value of love with out separation! I'm just gonna keep saying that!
U penned down such lovely lines! I just keep getting more nd more anxious for u posts everyday!
First of all great post! Always look forward to them! I loved the way u described the situation. But don't u think that kumud herself practically dragged herself nd Saras in to this relationship because from day 1 she had considered him as her husband! Ergo would not make sense if kumud actually gives him support nd vice versa because in the beginning he tried to distant them both but she was the one who took the first step in diluting the distance! However I feel kumud should not blame Saras in any way! She knows how traumatic devastating nd vulunerable his life has been! But then again she is unaware of his situation!
Honestly I am not mad at what Saras did at all!
So if Saras went along nd did get married to kumud do u not think he would be able to give her the happiness she deserves in all aspects?
Do u think he will be able to fight for her from Guamans nasty insults nd recommendations! So called!
Do u think he will ba able to then forgive himself when he finally recovers nd it's too late?
No he won't be able to do any! Because right now he's thinking of what his father did nd the consequences!
After Saras Is related to his father right
He has the same blood as his father running down his veins
Yes he has inherited more of his mothers trait genetically nd character wise!
But he's a man nd he's doubting himself!
He's afraid that he might so the same to kumud! He fears even if he marries her he wont be able to give her the happiness he deserves which will lead to her leaving him
He is not ready for another someone who is incredibly close to his heart leave him again!
I mean what child goes through an traumatic experience of their mother committing suicide nd leaving the child at such a young age! At the age of four or five a child is finally walking nd talking! What makes it even worse is that he was there he witnessed his mother go away from deep in that water nd she never came back!
A lot of people are pissed at Saras but I mean come on guys give him a break!
Right now if kumud really loves him then instead of being mad at him she should be there for him but the only problem is she is unaware!
Share his pain and tell him it's okay! Everything will be okay!
He's once again that 4 year old child who needs love nd warth nd comfort!
Before kumud had barged into his life he was still that 4 year old child but in a grown body!
He still held those incomplete spots in his hearts that could only be filled with love!
Yes he tried for years but no one came all that had come to him was his father not even bothering bout him
Nd his step mom being too engrossed with her nasty self!
But let me tell one thing when Saras come out of it nd realizes what he has done unintentionally he will come nd get his love back
He will explain beg tell kumud that it wasn't her fault forget that it wasn't his fault either!
No one in this kind of situation would be Able to think straight!
He will come stronger then before nd kill everything that comes his way!
I can't for that day! I wrote the something in shanas post! Tell me if u disagree!

Very well written dear, and excellent insight into Saras's mindset and Kumud's reactions.

As you pointed his past has been so traumatic and childhood so lonely, that he is a damaged soul!

Unfortunately he will be judged as his fathers son, and his absence treated as betrayal - after calling her to call it off, even if he does head towards RN, and is stopped by Umesh and gang, Kumud will think he ditched her, events will cause him to be judged harshly, events and his genes - that he is the son of master ditcher LN

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smrth

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Posted: 12 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Dismayed and disappointed in Saras the man, but not in his reaction, infact that had to be his first reaction IMO.

The new upbeat Saras is too recent to be permanent, his first reaction to the trauma is accept to loneliness as his destiny and is a regression to his old self, very natural!

I think this is a cry for help and Kumud now will beckon him once again to RN, and he will head there!

And thanks for the info on mindhol - I was wondering about, is it something significant to gujjus or was it a borrowed ritual again like kc, but the precap distracted me!

Ya, the second bad omen after Kaanch tootna, btw, can we count falling of ink on the face of her sapnon ka rajkumar also an omen - muh pe kalikh lagna - defamation of Saras's character after he fails to land up at the mandap?

It was a goof up...broken glass is considered Good omen in Gjjus (mostly)...dark staining was bad part..

@ Mindhol, Hgg is right...in that thread i have mentioned 'mindhol' as sign of irreversibility in marriage process (flimsy one though, in today's times).

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Posted: 12 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Explain plizz, nahin samajh aaya

People were questioning the extent to which CV's showed the passion in their love, their promises made etc. only to show Saras reneging on them in his dark moment. I think they did this for maximum impact on viewers like is being seen in the forum now. Many are close to Saras-bashing! If they had not shown the passion and the love and the soul-mateness in such enchanting detail, the impact of his last-minute backtracking(in whatever form it emerges today) would have been much less. That was like a catapult.

Also, there is surprise that the mother's suicide issue traumatised him again when he is supposed to have gotten over it. Yes, he had gotten over it, and that ws because he thought he had got his dad's love back (remember that scene after VC-LN fight? when LN says he's grateful to Saraswati for giving him a son like Saras?). He did not imagine then that the dad he loved ws the one who drove mother to suicide,... That ws the major cause of trauma this time, as he loses both parents all over again and in the cruellest way possible,

Most children like to think the best about their parents, so even if the logical solution to suicide mystery ws LN-Gumaan, Saras as a child cd/wd not have envisaged it, and wd then have continued to hold on to this as adult until the evidence is thrust before him...

Edited by happychappy - 12 years ago

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Arshics

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Posted: 12 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: smrth

It was a goof up...broken glass is considered Good omen in Gjjus (mostly)...dark staining was bad part..
@ Mindhol, Hgg is right...in that thread i have mentioned 'mindhol' as sign of irreversibility in marriage process (flimsy one though, in today's times).

Ok, I wish the writers would give attention to such details, esp since SLB himself is a gujju!

I had read your reference to mindhol earlier, somehow again missed out on asking more about it!

So mindhol is tied on both the bride and groom? That brings me to another logic ki vaat, tho inappropriate under the present tension, why is there no sign of rituals in Dubai? They too must have their relatives, friends, plans for mehendi etc. the scion of Vyas family is to get married, there should have been something planned in Dubai also!

Of course as i said, it is not very relevant, infact the starkness of Vyas house vs the festive environ of the Desai house highlights the contrast very well!

But kya karain, I see logic ki waat, I talk about it.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#67

not so happychappy today..lol,for those who r bashing saras.., i think the precap is saras's impulsive reaction to all that has happened, how can a man marry in such a state of mind! he has left the house, nowhere to go, uncertain future, where will he keep kumud and where will he take her, he does not even know where life will take him, he was on the verge of committing suicide when gumaan interrupted him unknowingly...he will realize later what he did to kumud, but will be too late, by the time he reaches ratnagiri kumud will be married off to pramad😕

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 12 years ago

#68

@happychappy- exactly my thoughts... Because they took the relationship that far and that deep, the breakup is gonna be that much more impactful.. and smart analogy there- catapult effect! :)

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Arshics

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Posted: 12 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: happychappy

People were questioning the extent to which CV's showed the passion in their love, their promises made etc. only to show Saras reneging on them in his dark moment. I think they did this for maximum impact on viewers like is being seen in the forum now. Many are close to Saras-bashing! If they had not shown the passion and the love and the soul-mateness in such enchanting detail, the impact of his last-minute backtracking(in whatever form it emerges today) would have been much less. That was like a catapult.

Also, there is surprise that the mother's suicide issue traumatised him again when he is supposed to have gotten over it. Yes, he had gotten over it, and that ws because he thought he had got his dad's love back (remember that scene after VC-LN fight? when LN says he's grateful to Saraswati for giving him a son like Saras?). He did not imagine then that the dad he loved ws the one who drove mother to suicide,... That ws the major cause of trauma this time, as he loses both parents all over again and in the cruellest way possible,

Most children like to think the best about their parents, so even if the logical solution to suicide mystery ws LN-Gumaan, Saras as a child cd/wd not have envisaged it, and wd then have continued to hold on to this as adult until the evidence is thrust before him...

thanks for clarifying that, I was a bit of a tube light on that!

Not only he has realized that his dad drove his mom to suicide, but also that his dads only response to his moms death is - HOW MUCH IT EMBARRASSED HIM IN SOCIETY! His wife, the mother of his son, a woman who lived for him and died for him - not a minute of remorse or sorrow - he blames her for being stupid - how callous !

And how is Saras to deal with that? These were the words that kept haunting him, last time his mother committed suicide, today his father murdered her in cold blood !

And as you rightly pointed out, this is the moment he realized the enormity of his dads role in this, he had always idolized his father, craved for his love, forgave him so easily for the years of neglect, assumed that it was business pressure that was the root cause of his moms isolation,

And look at the magnitude and the horror of what he learned!

That shot that showed Saras on the edge of the terrace with a sheer drop - that's where he is right now!