TG: We have heard that you are a 'Set up' director. Can you tell us a bit about that?
AB: Yes. For the past 5 years, I have been involved in show setups. So that means, I will direct the show for the initial 40-50 episodes and then I move on to other shows. It might sound easy but setting up a show is actually quite complicated because you have to take a concept that is on paper, breathe life into it, make it a reality on screen and then show its growth. When a new show starts everything about it is grand and we need to show that grandeur on screen. I believe that the initial 40 episodes are crucial because that is the timeframe when the audience will decide whether they want to continue watching the show or not. I doubt that a serial becomes a hit after 40 episodes. Touchwood, my fraternity has given me a great deal of respect and I am considered as sort of an expert in show setups.
TG: Why do you choose to only setup a show?
AB: The reason why I choose to setup shows is because after 40 episodes, I feel like I have done everything. After 40 episodes, the actor or artist has understood the character, so they don't need to be instructed all the time. The set or location has been exposed completely, so there is nothing new for me and I don't enjoy doing the same shot over and over again. So as a director I feel that I don't have any more work to do. I have never worked for money'it has always been about my happiness, creative satisfaction so at the end of the day, I should be able to sleep well knowing that I was able to take two perfect shots! Everyone keeps asking me that I have been working in television for so many years; I must be bored of it all. To be honest, even today, when I go for a shoot, I feel like I am going to give a board exam. I cannot get complacent about any scene because when I take it as a challenge then it becomes much bigger and I feel connected to my work. This is why every day feels like an exam to me.
TG: You set up shows. For 40-50 episodes that show is yours'it is your baby, your concept, your vision. Is it easy to hand that over to someone else? Do you ever go back, watch what is being made of what you started and ask'what have they made of it?
AB: Yes, that happens a lot and it does trouble me. Almost like a mother who gives birth to a child, nurtures him and then when the child is old enough to run and play, you have to hand him over to someone else. That is painful and then sometimes you feel that the child is not being looked after well. I suppose if you are lucky then you will get a good director to take the show forward. Also, after 50 episodes, the stress factor increases because we don't have a bank of episodes. So because of time restraints, channel demands etc the quality will not be the same as when the show had started. Having said that, I usually stay with the show and shoot wedding episodes etc because the producers and the channel always call me to take care of the big sequences.
TG: Directing daily serials is no joke. You are working for such long hours and there is a lot of stress involved. Have you ever considered moving on to movies?
AB: When I came to Mumbai from Delhi, the plan was to get into movies but at that time I had certain responsibilities. I wanted to settle my family and films could not have given me that financial security. Television has a lot of money in fact, all big production houses and film celebrities are moving into television today. There is no doubt that it is hard work but there is a lot of money and financial security in this industry as well. With films there is an uncertainty as in, you never know if the movie will work or not work so there is no security. Two years after I moved to Mumbai I had an offer from UTV for a film but I decided to stick to television. Even today, Mr. Bhansali keeps asking me narrate a story and he has assured me that he will produce my movie so yes'that is always a tempting option for me. So far I have enjoyed my career in television but now, after setting up this show, I will do a film as I have been working on the story and concept with a team of writers.
TG: What is the most challenging facet of being a director?
AB: I feel that in this day and age of television, a director must also be a good manager and leader. If you are 40% creative and 60% able to manage a unit then you can become a good director. We are given targets and we have many restraints and limits, so we have to follow deadlines and more importantly maintain quality while following those deadlines. I feel that working under pressure, deadlines and maintaining discipline in the unit are the biggest challenges a director faces. When I say something, people should get to work immediately. To get that kind of discipline, sometimes you have to treat the actor or unit like children and sometimes you have to get angry with them. At the end of the day all the actors are used to a bit of pampering and though they treat me like a father and a teacher if I scold them a bit they will get serious and come to their marks.
TG: As a director, when you pack up and go home, what do you find most satisfying?
AB: The most satisfying feeling is that even under so much stress and with so many deadlines, I was able to fulfill my vision. If I had to do 8 scenes and 6 came out just as I had envisioned them but 2 scenes had to be hurried because of time restraints then, that will be a compromise for me. So, even after pack up, I'll keep thinking about how much I had to compromise during the course of the day. As a director and a visionary, I have certain limits on how much I will compromise with my work. Of course there are times when things are out of our hands like emergencies, weather etc and that is acceptable. I have completed an episode in one day and the channel has called me up to congratulate me on it. That day I did not put the camera on the stand at all, they were all hand held shots and I was very happy with the work. Though we were under a lot of stress, I was very happy with the quality of the episode. So the biggest satisfaction is doing the best I can in the given the circumstances.
TG: Saraswatichandra on television'please tell us about it. How did you take this project?
AB: Sanjay Leela Bhansali actually wanted to make a movie on Saraswatichandra but for some reason he could not take the project on. Sanjay ji is very attached to the story of Saraswatichandra and he decided to make a television show on it but he was unsure of how to go about it. I had shot a pilot for the show and when he saw it he was so impressed with my work. Basically his exact words to me were that my pilot was good enough to be a pilot for a movie'that was a huge compliment for me. Sanjay ji is very direct and he does not mince words so if he does not like something he will say it immediately. I believe that he respects me and has a lot of faith in me. Also, the channel was extremely excited that Sanjay Leela Bhansali would be making something for television. Now you have to understand that if Sanjay Leela Bhansali is making a show for television and his name is attached to the project then people's expectations will grow tenfold! For the first time ever on television, this will be ' 'Sanjay Leela Bhansali presents Saraswatichandra'directed by Arvind Babbal!' This is a momentous opportunity for me. I don't leave any stone unturned'whether I am directing one scene, one show, one actor or 500 actors'that is how I work. With this show, I will be taking my perfectionism to a whole new level.
TG: What are your expectations from the show?
AB: I have a lot of expectations from the show and we have waited a very long time for the shoot to start. Both Gautam and I have been waiting very patiently for this project to start. I know that Gautam has had many other offers but he has literally put everything on hold just because he wanted to be a part of Saraswatichandra. Everyone who is a part of this show is very excited ' the producer, director, makers, creatives, actors and the channel. In fact, I believe that the channel has set aside a larger budget for publicity of the show and they want to launch it in a very big way. Nobody is looking at it as a normal show. The pilot episode was made in such a way that it just immediately raised everyone's expectations.
TG: Please tell us a bit about the story of the Saraswatichandra'
AB: I really like stories where we explore relationships, bonds'some days are good, some bad, some days people are together, some days they get separated. Basically, 'Sambhando ke utaar chadaav ki kahaani mujhe bahut acchi lagti hai.' The best thing about this story is that even in this day and age, the hero and heroine will keep within the boundaries, within the 'maryada' and they will not cross those boundaries to do what they want to do. At the same time, even though they are apart'their love is stronger and deeper than the love of those who actually live together, 'aisa pyaar kiyaa jo saath mein rehkar bhi log nahi kar paye!' It is a love without limits yet fate does not allow them to come together. Whenever they have the opportunity to be together, their duties keep getting in the way. So love keeps bringing them together but all the other things keep breaking them apart. Even though they are not together, the connection between them is so strong that they are just happy and content knowing and thinking about each other. It is a very tricky and complicated situation to show because there are very thin lines and Gautam and Jennifer are doing a brilliant job. Gautam catches things very easily and he is an actor who performs from his heart. To act from the heart you have to go in that zone, you have to feel and show those feelings. I think you have to bare your soul when you act from the heart. Many actors are mechanical and when they act'it is almost like calculated acting. An actor should be able to get the audience to connect with his emotions. Gautam has that factor and he can get the viewers in that zone. Also, the working chemistry between Gautam and Jennifer is fantastic. I am very excited about this show and we will put in our best effort. I am sure the viewers will enjoy the show. The TRP of the first five episodes will let us know how things go. Once again, I will set the show up and leave it in the capable hands of the makers but I am extremely honored to be connected with such a prestigious project.
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