Mu se kuch bhi ulta sidha nikaal dene se woh sach nahi ban jata.Originally posted by: vishmewell
I thought you followed my previous post too... well The connection here is, sach ko sach kaha.. galat ko galat. sach yeh hai, Sadhana started with a deal and ended with a deal... everything after that... is in my other post on contract... standing up for what is right is what the connection is.
When daupadi was insulted even Bheeshama did not speak up although it killed him from within.. The connection is, I am speaking up. Because there is term for the services she provided (Nursing) so called it nursing. And someone who nurses is called a nurse.
When a mother takes care of her child .. is she a nurse?
When a wife takes care of her husband ... is she a nurse?
NO ...
And your FREE SPEECH voice sounded so much specifically like Vasu's venomous comment over Sadhna. And it was undeniably inspired by that. NO WIT CAN TAKE THAT AWAY ... it was filled with animosity and venom directed at the SO CALLED fictional character named Sadhna.
Ragini was called MILLIONS of names by Vasu ... do any responsible or respectable person is expected to repeat those words in the forum and say that "after all its true!!!"??? ... Ofcourse Vasu did not say ALL LIES about many aspects of Ragini and their marriage and her looks etc etc etc.
Fictional character of whatever ... if Sadhna or Bidaai is just so light hearted fiction ... then UFF ... I must've been dreaming all those time when I came first time in IF ... and one member (right now being broad minded and calling everything fiction) told me HOW SERIOUS things are ... and was very much serious herself... 100 time more serious then me. Yes I took up a stance... but that stance was taken by many people much before me for their respective likings.
TAALI EK HAATH SE NAHI BAJTI ... you have said something very hurtful and unacceptable ... and to justify it with free speech in IF is just a very sad and opportunistic method ... life is not so convenient that whenever we want things to be the way they need to be, they turn into those!
IT WAS VASU's comment .. a HATEFUL comment ... a demeaning and degrading comment ... an insulting and painful comment ... to make Sadhna look low and meaningless. And you have repeated that word many time (and you also called Sadhna 'Mahaan' few times in the forum in a very sarcastic way). This is certainly causing reaction ... and this I feel is very natural.
NO ONE IS FREE ENOUGH TO PROMOTE ANARCHY. Anyone who promotes anarchy in the name of freedom must be ready for a retribution.
Originally posted by: serialjunkie
As for freedom of speech, do you believe for one second that KKK stands for the good of humanity and does not hold harm principle? Yet they enjoy their freedom in a free society. I can state several examples too to quote equally large number of cases where people have tried to kill Freedom of Speech because they did not like what they heard. Sorry we have to disagree on this.
If this discussion and views expressed by topic starter in some ways violate the forum rules, then let the moderators do their job and why not refrain from squelching the person out??
Also, I should say I certainly do not feel comfortable with the "Us versus Them" tone of these discussions. This forum is for all to discuss and enjoy, not a battle ground.
KKK stands for harmful purposes, and they have been tackled for their actions. A free society and an anarchic society are two different things.
Just because once (or now) USA would tolerate KKK and their hateful comments doesnt make that a standard of Free Speech. Its not about USA, its about freedom and its limits ... whether USA follows it (or everything) perfectly (or just according to its own convenience/interest) was and is and wil always remain a matter of great argument. The world also lays beyond USA.
We know celebrities and politicians and other people who voice matters being held responsible for their words. WORDS which cause insult or pain to a certain segment of people are supposed to be handled with care for overall goodness.
This is a forum and everyone is free to voice their opinions ... but this freedom comes with a responsibility. If a serene and respectful environment is to be maintained ... everyone must contribute towards it. IF the silence or understanding is expected only from one party ... THERE WILL NEVER BE PIECE .. AND THATS THE WAY IT IS.
I am certainly in favor of fair peace (FAIR PEACE)!
If you feel that calling names to characters ... or justifying the comments of a vamp which was meant to demean her is OK ... then its your PERSONAL opinion. But when that opinion comes online ... the expectation for a retribution should be carried along aswell. BECAUSE ITS NOT GOING TO BE WELCOME BY ALL .. certainly not.
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