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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: pricey28

guys, give the guy a break. i agree, he is not the "perfect" pati, but he is definitely the best in the serial, and one of the best in the entirety of indian television.
let's not forget how much love ranvir showered on ragi after he came from jail. he supported her through EVERYTHING, and took every step possible to bring her out of her depression, which he so beautifully succeeded in doing. not only that, he even helped ragi realize the huge, HUGEEEE injustice she was making towards sadi, with nothing bu understanding and love. how could all forget that...???
and now its ragi's turn. true, he may have been a little stern at it, but he was certainly right in his place for leaving the house. its not like ranveer was telling ragi something unjust. vasu truly has put him, his brother, his father though HELLLLLL. which child could still live with their mother after what vasu has done???!!!! this is why even though i agree he may have been a little tough on ragi in expressing his decision, the decision he took was still right, and i'm glad ragi supported him. and honestly, how could she not...? leaving ranvir, and remaining behind at her sasural, which is HIS family, would've been an INSANE step for ragi. the whole reason why ragi is in her sansural is cause of her marriage to ranveer...
as for their relationship. guys, it can't always be romance, romance, and romance...to me, ragvir's relationship is both the most realistic and logical. there are times when there's happiness, and times when difficulties...that's how real-life relationships work. like i said, it can't always be just ROMANCE b/w them, especially when there have been sooooooooooo many of them. so it doesn't mean when rifts are shown, suddenly the magic and the strength in their relationship is gone...
now, speaking of romantic scenes, honeslty, when will WE get our romantic salekh scenes, and NOT one that's imaginary...???!!!!! we have waited for over two, LOOOOOONG years!!!!!! its high time we get our moment. lol.

i totally completely agree..he is definitely the best pati in the serial..now aalekh is coming quite close tho..yes ther have bin misunderstandings and bitter words bt which marriage dsnt go thru all tht?if he gets his way everytime then she lets him...i believe tht ragini sort of lost her identity after her wedding..tht is not ranvir's fault..if she dsnt voice her opinion (except for the rift track she hasnt actually) then he is bound to override her feelings..its human yaar..their relationship was not on an equal basis..remember the time when she made the infamous dialogue of 'aapki pooja karne ka dil karta hai'?
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Posted: 15 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Well seriously, Ranvir is one of the best and most reasonable characters in Bidaai. Rarely u find circumstance where you feel like criticising him. But everyone should understand, be it Ranveer, Sadhna, or Maamaji, all of them are human beings at the end of the day and there might be few times (maybe 1%-2% times), when they might seem unreasonable, so whats wrong in that? If they are always potrayed as perfect human beings, people have a problem, if they are shown 'human' sometimes, then people criticise them more. And these people are criticised even more than people like Maalti, Avni, Naveen, etc.

Anyways, as far as Ranveer is concerned, agreed he is slightly short tempered, but I never found him unreasonably short tempered. Whenever he has expressed anger, it has always been for the right reason. As far as yesterday's episode is concerned, Ranvir was not angry with Ragini, but with his mom. He was just expressing his emotions in front of Ragini, that doesnt mean he was shouting at Ragini. Its like when when we fight with someone at school, we come back and talk about it to maybe our sister and when we say that, we might be saying that in a very angry tone but does that mean we are shouting at our sister? So similarly, Ranvir was just expressing his anger towards his mom, and am sure Ragini understood it.
And to be frank, I did find Ragini a bit irritating when she was going on 'magar Ranvir...mamiji ke baare me tho sochiye...', after all that Vasu did and after Ranvir heard that Vasu called his dearest bro 'paagal', Ranvir was totally pissed with Vasu! All he was continuously thinking was 'how could mom give so much of troubles to Alekh', 'how could mom call him pagal', etc and you cant blame him either, anyone in his place would react like that. Just imagine when you are totally pissed with someone bcos they did something really bad, and someone else at that time justifies that person, how angry would you be? So can you blame Ranvir for his reaction? And Ragini was just not stopping, she was going on and on 'magar Ranvir...magar Ranvir', so being a viewer I could notice that irritation on Ranvir's face and the only time when she actually stopped this was when Ranvir said 'ab tumhe yeh teh karna hain tumhe Rajvansh bahu banna hain ya meri patni', and it wasnt that Ranvir dint know what her answer would be, he definitely knew she would come with him only but he just asked her that question just to stop her nagging, and she did stop.
If people want to blame Ranvir for getting angry with Ragini for supporting Vasu, I am sure everyone can recollect an exact similar situation where Ranvir was in Ragini's place and Ragini was in Ranvir's place and instead of Vasu it was Sadhna. Remember how Ragini got angry with Ranvir and spoke rudely to him when he was saying the exact same thing to Ragini that 'Sadhna bhabhi ke baare me socho', but at that time Ragini was soo pissed with Sadhna that she dint even want to hear anything from Ranvir, thats why he stopped explaining things to her.
So its not that only Ranvir behaved like this to Ragini, even she did the exact same thing, only difference being Ranvir is more reasonable in this case as Vasu IS GUILTY, whereas Ragini was not geunine with Sadhna.

Sadhna, Ranvir are criticized more than Malti, Avni simply because more is expected from them! We expect Malti and Avni to act like they do so we don't get surprised and don't get too upset with them.
I just feel like Ranvir-Ragini haven't been on the same page about anything since their marriage. During the mystery track, when Ranvir treated her despicably, his reason was that he didn't want to hurt her 😕🤢 Now I think Ranvir's disgusting behavior hurt Ragini way more than the truth could ever have--which btw wasn't even that traumatic! After that came the infamous rift track where Ragvir were definately not on the same page. Yet, yes Ranvir tried to understand Ragini and make her feel better. Everyone around him, including the doctor, had told him that Ragini was depressed with what had happened and she needed Ranvir's love and support at that time, or she would fall into severe depression, so as a loving husband he tried his best to bring her out of the trauma. Obviously Ragini is not blame-free, she definately did not help things with her demanding and irrational behavior. Now in this track, Ragini knows Ranvir is right and has tried his best to make Vasu understand, it's just that she feels like moving out is only going to worsen things. Yet again, they are not on the same page.
Even I found Ragini to be really irritating with her "magar Ranvir..mummyji..." but it was just her attempt at stopping a family from breaking even more and stopping Ranvir from making what she feels is an impulsive decision that will worsen things rather than make them better. Ranvir had made up his mind and it was obvious that he wasn't going to budge at all, and thus to stop Ragini's attempts at changing his mind he asked her to choose between him and his family, which imo is kinda disreagrding her opinions on the issue. Forget that, he didn't even bother telling her we're moving out until he'd signed over the entire property to Inder's name, nor did he bother asking her if she agrees or not.
And yes, Ragini did the exact same thing when she asked Ranvir to never talk to Sadhna again and that he doesn't care about her because he saw Sadhna, and she was heavily criticized for that too. In fact, I think Ragini was the most hated character in the history of Bidaai during the rift track--with people saying Ranvir should beat her up, Vasu/CM are angels compared to her, etc..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu rulz

i totally completely agree..he is definitely the best pati in the serial..now aalekh is coming quite close tho..yes ther have bin misunderstandings and bitter words bt which marriage dsnt go thru all tht?if he gets his way everytime then she lets him...i believe tht ragini sort of lost her identity after her wedding..tht is not ranvir's fault..if she dsnt voice her opinion (except for the rift track she hasnt actually) then he is bound to override her feelings..its human yaar..their relationship was not on an equal basis..remember the time when she made the infamous dialogue of 'aapki pooja karne ka dil karta hai'?

Ragini HAS lost her identity after her marriage. And yes, you're right Ragini lets Ranvir walk all over her and frankly it's very very annoying, but does that make it right for Ranvir to do so?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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He is yet to prove himself as a best pati.On the other hand Ragini is def the best patni cos of her much taunted 'MY RANVIR' chant. He just assumes that she would do his bidding no matter what!I mean,wouldn't a wife and husband discuss anything beforehand????

Ragini was def wrong in the rift track.She was demanding,aggressive and whatnot and failed to understand Ranvir.But if she was shown as meek and humble then I am almost 100% sure that Ranvir would have bulldozed her yet again into bringing Sadhana back home or he might divorce her lol.I mean it just might be situational and one shouldn't delve into it that much like his 'do u want to be my wife' line but still the impact would have been the same.

As Himani said Ragini was much hated in Bidaai.But what of Ranvir's behaviour during the mystery track and his outburst on her?What made him a complete human being when he doesn't even respect his wife or her words?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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LOL Himani,u found the rules episode link!!I never went back to watch that episode again lol.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80

LOL Himani,u found the rules episode link!!I never went back to watch that episode again lol.

Lols this is the first time I've seen it since then! Sad thing is I actually remembered around when it happened too! It really makes you hate Ranvir! And I was actually annoyed with Ragini too in this part...but I think she was too shocked to react..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80

He is yet to prove himself as a best pati.On the other hand Ragini is def the best patni cos of her much taunted 'MY RANVIR' chant. He just assumes that she would do his bidding no matter what!I mean,wouldn't a wife and husband discuss anything beforehand????

Ragini was def wrong in the rift track.She was demanding,aggressive and whatnot and failed to understand Ranvir.But if she was shown as meek and humble then I am almost 100% sure that Ranvir would have bulldozed her yet again into bringing Sadhana back home or he might divorce her lol.I mean it just might be situational and one shouldn't delve into it that much like his 'do u want to be my wife' line but still the impact would have been the same.

As Himani said Ragini was much hated in Bidaai.But what of Ranvir's behaviour during the mystery track and his outburst on her?What made him a complete human being when he doesn't even respect his wife or her words?

I haven't believed Ranvir is the best pati since that track! Mamaji is the best pati in Bidaai. Alekh was the best pati when he was abnormal, he's on his way to becoming the best pati again.
Everything Ragini does is for Ranvir only--by that she is the best patni!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocolover89


<div></div>Lols this is the first time I've seen it since then! Sad thing is I actually remembered around when it happened too!It really makes you hate Ranvir! And I was actually annoyed with Ragini too in this part...but I think she was too shocked to react..



LOL I understand cos though I would have loved to forget the date when it was aired I actually remember it cos I was abt to go to India at that time but vented my frustrations at the blog a lot before leaving.Ragini's posture was just so submissive with that tray in her hand and that stoop.GOD,how I wish to forget that one lol.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80



LOL I understand cos though I would have loved to forget the date when it was aired I actually remember it cos I was abt to go to India at that time but vented my frustrations at the blog a lot before leaving.Ragini's posture was just so submissive with that tray in her hand and that stoop.GOD,how I wish to forget that one lol.

Lols for me summer vacation had just started! So I was even more pissed off with what was going on!
Lols last year I feel was only filled with frustarations in the blog! Starting wiht Sadhna-Alekh-Shlok track mixed with Ranvir acting weird, the mystery track, and then the infamous DB and rift track!
Wow..Bidaai had a pretty bad year last year!
OMG Ragini's submissiveness in that episode and then the sad look for another 2 months after that! 🤢😡
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