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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -tellyaddict-


@dipsy
thanx a ton for posting this thread. And m feeling lil better that there are stil people like you to understand a situation and respond accordingly.

Thanks again for posting.

Dear Moderator,
You are supposed to be neutral. Please do not express your like or dislike in this thread.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilike_tv



Very true...
A cook has to be blamed for a bad dish and not the ingredients... it is as simple as that
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if you read the line again, only thing that has changed is the "replacement of Gia and start of Dev".
Cook is same old and only ingredient changed is Gia. so, obviously, We need to buy ingredient from another store or get the same ingredient, It is as simple and won't you get it?
No hardfeeling.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: gauri72

If actor should not be criticised, then director also should not be criticised.After all he gives same instructions to diff. actress.If she is not able to understand the instruction it is not director's fault.If u believe she is very good dancer with great expressions then why director is bashed.For bashing of director, this thread should be closed.I request to mods, please.

Gauri -- I too agree with you. If the actor or actress is not capable, we should not blame directors.
Good point.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad


Thank you deepa.. for posting this

i was trying to write something on the same lines...

i do feel that the director.. might not have given the right brief and cues about Gopi's character..

at the end of the day,it is the director who has to Okay the shots to be fed to the viewers .,. and if he thought that the scene was not as expected then he could go for 30-40 retakes or even more if he wishes to...and make the actor deliver ... a director cannot take what ever the actor puts up in the scene..he needs to derive what he wants from the actors...

A cook has to be blamed for a bad dish and not the ingredients...

Munni -- Director has no other choice and he has to work with existing actor/actress. But even after 100 takes, he may not get what he is expecting? He has restriction with time/money.
It is an individuality, who proclaim good actor should grasp the situation and excel.
Finally, we have to blame the people who has chosen her and Dev to some extent for accepting this role.
Again, no hardfeeling and Hope everything will be consumed in right spirit.
Edited by ForumKing - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I guess everyone has a right to express their likes and dislikes.. be it any one from a newbie to a Mod..or even global Mod...



well a cook is one who should be able to make a best pot with any given ingredient ... this is what happens in Iron Chef America - there will be a secret ingredient with which the chef has to make the bestmbest dish ,,, the chef cannot say the ingredient is not nice..he has to cook something with it so that it is yummy and appeals to the judges

a director should try to derive the output from any actor - that is where his credibility lies ... he has every right to NOT OKAY the shot if he felt that the actor is not doing it properly .. even the producer cannot and will not question the directors creative credibility...

so Actors do what the director want them to do and not vice versa



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad


I guess everyone has a right to express their likes and dislikes.. be it any one from a newbie to a Mod..or even global Mod...



well a cook is one who should be able to make a best pot with any given ingredient ... this is what happens in Iron Chef America - there will be a secret ingredient with which the chef has to make the bestmbest dish ,,, the chef cannot say the ingredient is not nice..he has to cook something with it so that it is yummy and appeals to the judges

a director should try to derive the output from any actor - that is where his credibility lies ... he has every right to NOT OKAY the shot if he felt that the actor is not doing it properly .. even the producer cannot and will not question the directors creative credibility...

so Actors do what the director want them .. not vice versa



Munni -- Did you read my reply carefully?
Please refer the dictionary, what is the meaning of Moderator? (see the meaning -- To act as a moderator /intermediate/preside over the meeting/chairman of the meeting)
I do not agree that the directors should be blamed. One knows, Director has limited resources and also time (with other co workers) and they have to get the shot done in specified time.
How do you know that director has been given "indefinite" number of years to shot this episode. It is ridiculous and they are all work with stipulated budget/time.
We cannot take a shot for couple of years. (It is not going to work). So, Director has to chose "best of all the available". Unfortunately, Dev has different personality and she can give only to this extent.
Again, blaming director is unethical and this director is doing a good job for years with the team and only ingredient changed is Dev. It is so obvious. Won't you get it? If you still do not get it, you have to ask your self. What is changed ? why SNS is losing the TRP? Then you can conclude that ONLY ingredient is added is Dev. So, it is obvious to come to this conclusion.
For sake of argument, we can put the ball in some body court. But in reality, viewers are smart and they will cast their vote.
FINALLY, CUSTOMER WILL WIN.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: dipsy80

thank you for your kind comments 😊...its a relief to know that atleast 1 person wont throw rotten eggs and tomatoes at me! 😳


I understand yaar. There will be some people who will not accept this kind of analysis, no matter what. I'm glad you didn't have jhootey thrown at you 😉

Overall, it's nice to see that there are others who understand this. And I like munni's analogy: If the dish is bad, you can't blame the ingredients, because it was the chef that cooked it 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Directors job is to provide an actor with good ingredients and cooking directions but in the end it is the job of a good actor to use those two things. Dev was provided with a strong script. Omg thy gave her the confession scene that viewers waited for 2yrs as her opening. She was given a strong cast to support her. Initially they covered for her lack of onfidence but eventually she as to deliver and she failed to do that.

You might consider this bashing but this is my analysis of why we should not bash the director because just like the director a farmer can provide freshest ingredients. A top seller cook book can provide an excellent recipe but if the cook sucks then there won't be a tasty dish. Dev is the failed cook.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: megustajalebi



I understand yaar. There will be some people who will not accept this kind of analysis, no matter what.I'm glad you didn't have jhootey thrown at you😉

Overall, it's nice to see that there are others who understand this. And I like munni's analogy: If the dish is bad, you can't blame the ingredients, because it was the chef that cooked it😛

nonsense analogy. It shows how both megas and Minnie has attitude problem. Unfortunately, director has unskilled resource, that has rotten the food. You see Dev on tv. Not director. Hence Dev should be blamed.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very good post, and like you said we have seen a Gopi (Gia), from fearful, underestimating herself to someone having gain a lot of confidence, which she used when necessary. The way she fight for her marriage and the way she talks with Ahem after fire incident and the day Anita was leaving, shows us someone having matured through the way. And expecting Dev to act the same is the director and writer's responsibility.

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