The mistakes of a turbulent mind

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have heard that women think with their hearts while men think with their mind. In a sense, it means a woman worries about emotions and pain while accessing a situation while a man wants the task to be done and does not see the reactions of all who surround him until that task is complete.. It may be useful at times but not always..😕

Ahem I think is behaving the same way. As a woman I am sad to think that he does not talk to Gopi or his mom about what he is trying to achieve or what exactly happened. I actually think he is digging himself deeper and deeper into the problem by taking the pretend-to-be-Nilesh route and keeping his thoughts to himself.

For one, his family wants to talk to Nilesh because they think that Nilesh is talking to Anitha. That in itself is going to be a problem now. There is no word of Nilesh or what he is thinking about Anitha. Ahem has not or we have not seen Ahem do anything but be reactive to this situation. And as Munni said, he is not getting the crux of the problem.

The problem is not to keep Anitha from panicking. The problem is she is still unmarried and currently to fix this problem we need Nilesh and his family. Instead of attacking the problem at its root, Ahem keeps reacting to the situation that Anitha is in. This will not help in the long run. By the time he realizes this though, I am afraid a lot of people will be disappointed in him and he will be in trouble for making this situation worse.

As for Gopi, the problem I think is that Ahem assumes that Gopi is fine. She is not crying. She is not questioning him. He assumes that she considers Anitha as a victim in this. His explanation about helping her because she is a victim and he is doing this only for humanity.. Now this my brother would say is explantion enough.. But you see as woman, we expect to be told a little bit more emotionally. Maybe sit down, hold hands, assure and explain.. That is what we expect. But being the male, I do not think the thought even entered Ahem's brain..
That is why we find Kokila and Anitha assuring Gopi while there is no trace of Ahem. Now this will again land him in trouble. You ask why? Why when Gopi said she trusted her Ahemji?

Well because Gopi's trust is on Ahem not doing anything out of line as her husband. But she does not know that he loves her and not Anitha. She will not be insecure about Ahem betraying her, but she will not believe he loves her, Gopi..

Now to further this mess, Koki thinks that Gopi knows about Ahem and Anitha.. Logically her mind will tell her that maybe Ahem talked with Gopi and hence the trust she sees in Gopi's eyes. Unfortunately this is not the case. Ahem, I think still does not realize that Gopi knows about his past connection. He is so immersed in the present problem that he has ignored the past..
His explanation that his mom might miscontrue his intentions about helping Anitha is just the excuse for "I lied and my mom will be angry for lying and will be disappointed." Which is what it is..

Kokila will not take this lie lightly. She will further think that Ahem is playing with Gopi's emotions which he is not but for a person who does not know that Gopi is in the loop for this pretense, that is what it looks like.. So when the time comes and it is revealed that Ahem lied and pretended to be Nilesh he will pay for all of these.

1. Not talking to Gopi about his love for her
2. Not telling Koki and the family about the lie
3. Reacting and not taking a plan of action to get Anitha properly settled.

By the time he realizes his mistake he will need Gopi to support him for 2 & 3. I am thinking Gopi will be his rescuer.. Or I wish and hope that she is, not because that will prove her greatness but because she holds the key to the above said things. What Ahem has hid from Gopi and what he thinks Gopi does not know, Gopi is privy to both.. the only thing left is his love.. When 2 and 3 are fixed, 1 has to be.. That is Ahem's only saving grace.. His love for his wife.

A confusing rant.. But I hope it makes some sense.. When Ahem starts to think with his heart, mind and reflexes combined, it is then that he will start correcting the mistakes he has already made.. Till then I think we will see this drama continue with his pretense that most probably will blow up right in his face next week.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Harini .. thank you for composing such and brilliant post 🤗

it covers all aspects and all problems surrounding his so called help in the form of lie...

- Agree with you completely.. Men speak their mind when in problem.. they say a line just like Ahem.. he is helping her out of humanity and hope this phase will be over

-But will pretending to be Nilesh help to solve the solution? how long will this continue? Should he not think of solving the problem permanently ? By pretending to be Nilesh he is not solving the problem... in fact, the problem is being aggravated.. it is transformed from a single dimensional and simple problem to a multi-dimensional and complex problem...

- Here Anita is shown false dreams and hopes...when reality hits her she will be even more depressed.. Gopi, though privy to every matter is still unsure of his love for her..but Ahem thinks gopi is fine and secure about his unsaid love,,,Ufff so many complications...

- The crux is not yet touched upon,, or no efforts are being made since Ahem is, unintentionally giving into Anita's demands and getting neck deep in problems..

- who will come to the rescue? Koki will be known about this lie in sometime..Gopi will be the one to solve things as always.. but in all this will Anita come out of her jolt, will someone have to tell her? she cannot stay like that forever..how and who will break the news to her to get her out of her jolt.. will it be anita herself or Ahem or Koki

now how does this impact Ahem as a person

- Ahem, till now has never been involved in the family problems or emotional situations.. All his business acumen is not helping him in this situation..

-being a man., he wants to think that he can handle it, by not telling much to the ladies,, but in all this he is forgetting that this is an emotional and sensitive issue..which cannot be dealt the business way...

- During the split also he said, things will be sorted if talked, but baa cuts him off that this is not business...this is exactly my point.. Ahem should not try to apply business to family relations and emotional issues...because business and emotions are 2 different things

- Ahem should open up, talk to his mom or a person who is expert in dealing with these things rather than acting according to the demands and not getting to the crux...

- Ahem will, at the end of this track learn to open up more, talk and share the emotional stuff mostly with his wife.. and he will have to learn that simple statements will not work for women.. they need assurances, by holding hands.. giving them comfort and security at any low point in their lives...

- Ahem will use this mistake as a learning experience,.. and i hope and wish he talks, communicates and discuss such stuff with his wife at any point in life

- this mistake will trigger him to confess his love and open up all his feelings.. we might see a different Ahem 😳


- sorry became long.. not sure if i made any sense with respect to your post😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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very good analysis i would love it to blow up in aham face because he needs a jolt, he has taken gopi for granted just like others. i still feel gopi will need to leave to give the aham n kokila to think about their past actions n of course there future.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: suk19

very good analysis i would love it to blow up in aham face because he needs a jolt, he has taken gopi for granted just like others. i still feel gopi will need to leave to give the aham n kokila to think about their past actions n of course there future.


It will blow up on his face in the rate it is going or may almost blow up unless Gopi comes in and rescues him earlier..😊
Gopi will not leave Ahem in this mess. She will help him and in that process Ahem will learn more about communication and so will Gopi.. Suk, like love, communication is also a two way street. Both Ahem and Gopi are shy.. They do not communicate. Each assumes what the other thinks.. They do not confirm if their assumptions are right. Ahem is not taking Gopi for granted. He just assumed that Gopi is alright. Similarly Gopi did not ask Ahem. She took it for granted that Ahem will not tell her or that he will take it in the wrong sense. That is the basis of the problem... Gopi leaving will maybe make Ahem realize what he is missing but it tells him nothing about what Gopi actually wants.. He will have to make her talk or she has to talk herself. It is again the same with Ahem.. He has to explain or Gopi has to question him.. Just my PoV😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Harini your points raised are fair and valid. You have voiced out several issues.

The more compelling one is, as Munni put it, Ahem getting to the crux of the matter. Ahem needs to face this head on. How and in what way? It doesn't matter, even if it gets to the worst state ever - he needs to come clean with all parties concerned.

This is what this track is all about.

As your title states, he will need to undo those mistakes that are holding the storm in him.

His journey will be an interesting one to watch. His mannerisms and habits reflects where his heart is and that with Gopi but his is drawn with much guilt of the past and present actions with Anita that is manipulating his mind to react differently. He is a mixed bag of emotions that is churning through him unable to give in any way.

As an astute businessman will he use his business acumen to resolve his situation? Will find another way altogether?

All-in-all, these are interesting times to watch him, listen to his words and understand his behaviour. His complicated nature will unravel itself further.

The question is: how much will the CVs want to drill this down to, will determine how long this short stay of Anita will be?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Brilliant Post Harini! 👏 👏The only thing that one can find fault in Ahem's actions is that although he is helping Anita out of humanity...he is trying to get rid of his guilt and correct his actions in the past...but the problem lies in the way he is approaching the matter altogether.

He is a business man who usually thinks carefully and strategically about every move that he takes in his business, but here he is approaching the deal without thinking about the after effects...how is this going to affect the people around him?

Agree with u, that men don't think with their hearts, they think a simple explanation is enough, appreciate him for trusting Gopi with his plan, it is what a husband should do, share things with his wife, but he also took it for granted that she would understand, without once asking her how does she feel about this? Is she fine?

He is putting himself into the grave by creating more and more lies...everything he is doing now is spontaneous, without thought. Kokila is going to be heartbroken by her son's actions, his character may be questioned by the family...and as u have said, the only person who can truly help to show his face is Gopi...

But at what extent is Gopi going to handle this situation? She loves Ahem like she loves God himself...she has always stood by his happiness and sadness...she trusts her Anemji...she will dutifully still stand by him...Ahem will expect that...but what's going to happen when she, herself can't take it anymore...and she finally let's go...

Again, loved ur rant! ⭐️⭐️...beyond fantastic! 👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: swasthi

Harini your points raised are fair and valid. You have voiced out several issues.


The more compelling one is, as Munni put it, Ahem getting to the crux of the matter. Ahem needs to face this head on. How and in what way? It doesn't matter, even if it gets to the worst state ever - he needs to come clean with all parties concerned.

This is what this track is all about.

As your title states, he will need to undo those mistakes that are holding the storm in him.

His journey will be an interesting one to watch. His mannerisms and habits reflects where his heart is and that with Gopi but his is drawn with much guilt of the past and present actions with Anita that is manipulating his mind to react differently. He is a mixed bag of emotions that is churning through him unable to give in any way.

As an astute businessman will he use his business acumen to resolve his situation? Will find another way altogether?

All-in-all, these are interesting times to watch him, listen to his words and understand his behaviour. His complicated nature will unravel itself further.

The question is: how much will the CVs want to drill this down to, will determine how long this short stay of Anita will be?


Well said Swasthi👏 I could not have concluded any better..
Ahem is a complicated person.. But what has made him more complicated is his vulnerabilities.. He has stopped being the astute businessman he is in this situation.. And when it comes to relations he has always been a little in the disadvantage.He is acutely shy... All his weaknesses are making this situation worse.
But it is said that a person's strength depends on how he conquers or overcomes these very weaknesses.. The truth is Ahem has no other choice but to fight and overcome this situation. He may take help but finally the battle will be his.

As for Anitha's stay, given that she is not married and given her dialogues today, she will stay for quite some time😉

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Originally posted by: doc4ever

Brilliant Post Harini! 👏 👏The only thing that one can find fault in Ahem's actions is that although he is helping Anita out of humanity...he is trying to get rid of his guilt and correct his actions in the past...but the problem lies in the way he is approaching the matter altogether.


I agree.. That is where he is being reactive. .He has to realize that.. Either Koki knowing about his lie or Anitha coming to know about it is important.

He is a business man who usually thinks carefully thinks strategically about every move that he takes in his business, but here he is approaching the deal without thinking about the after effects...how is this going to affect the people around him?

Yes.. See that is why I think he is lost in all this guilt.. He is just not thinking right.. He is making one mistake on top of the other. Intentional or not, a mistake will be a mistake. Before it becomes something more, he needs to start thinking.😕

Agree with u, that men don't think with their hearts, they think a simple explanation is enough, appreciate him for trusting Gopi with his plan, it is what a husband should do, share things with his wife, but he also took it for granted that she would understand, without once asking her how does she feel about this? Is she fine?
See that is where I find that Gopi is also a little at fault. She questioned his lie. But she did not question his action. Yes. She believes and trusts him. So he assumed that she is fine.. Men do not read faces Kshama... At least not like women😊

He is putting himself into the grave by creating more and more lies...everything he is doing now is spontaneous, without thought. Kokila is going to be heartbroken by her son's actions, his character may be questioned by the family...and as u have said, the only person who can truly help to show his face is Gopi...
Yes.. It will have to be Gopi😃 I am actually hoping and wishing it is her.

But at what extent is Gopi going to handle this situation? She loves Ahem like she loves God himself...she has always stood by his happiness and sadness...she trusts her Anemji...she will dutifully still stand by him...Ahem will expect that...but what's going to happen when she, herself can't take it anymore...and she finally let's go...
She will not let go until she makes Ahem safe and gets him out of this mess.. Not just because of her duty as a wife but because she loves Ahem to leave him midway in this crisis.. And I truly hope that he does not let the situation go to a stage where it becomes that bad...

Again, loved ur rant! ⭐️⭐️...beyond fantastic! 👏


Thanks Kshama😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Harini.

You have raised some interesting point and he is not making it better but making it worst.

His guilt is now trifold.

1. He feels guilty for hurting Anita in the past and most recently for breaking up his marriage.
2. He feels guilty for hiding the truth about his past to Gopi, not realizing that she knows already.
3. And feels guilty for lying to his mom.

And instead of taking action as you said he is making it worse.

I agree with Swasthi on this how far will the CVs take this? Will they add another surprise for us to make it impossible for Ahem to get out of the situation which will end up hurting the person he loves and himself also.

Lets hope it doesn't get to point of no return and Gopi is forced to make the ultimate sacrifice for him and for the good of the family.
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Originally posted by: sbp1971

Great post Harini.

You have raised some interesting point and he is not making it better but making it worst.

His guilt is now trifold.

1. He feels guilty for hurting Anita in the past and most recently for breaking up his marriage.
2. He feels guilty for hiding the truth about his past to Gopi, not realizing that she knows already.
3. And feels guilty for lying to his mom.

And instead of taking action as you said he is making it worse.

I agree with Swasthi on this how far will the CVs take this? Will they add another surprise for us to make it impossible for Ahem to get out of the situation which will end up hurting the person he loves and himself also.

Lets hope it doesn't get to point of no return and Gopi is forced to make the ultimate sacrifice for him and for the good of the family.


Thanks Shilpa😊 I loved your points on Ahem's guilt. .He is just adding more and more to that pile isn't he? I do not know whether to pity him or feel frustrated. 😕

Like you and Swasthi, I am keeping my fingers crossed. I hope the CVs wherever they take this story line, not take it too far that Ahem cannot come back or make up for his mistakes in time. Unintentional or not, his mistakes are hurting or will be hurting others badly. However I am afraid this situation will get worse before it gets any better..
What makes me look at this with hope is Gopi's trust and her attitude. She has not been weak even for one moment since the start of this ordeal. It looks like she has braced herself for the worst and I am hoping or rather my wish is that she show Ahem the right way.
And I also hope that keeping with the title, this track is to show what a true saathiya will/should do rather than what a true saathiya should not do.. So showing Gopi make the ultimate sacrifice and giving up her love or leaving does not sit well.. I hope as always and I wish to see this couple tide this phase with strength and come out stronger..
We are in for a long ride however.. That is very obvious.😊

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